Imperial city market crash

[nability]

Probably pointless posting this as you guys on here never seem arsed to answer but il try again anyway...

got a problem when i start a new game and i come from the sewers and head to the imperial market all is fine but when i leave ant then try to come back all im met with is a CTD.

if its not to much of a burden any chance on someone giving me a little input on how i could fix this please?

[ProzaicMuze]

Maybe if you provided more info someone COULD answer. You didn't list your version (patched or not), Mod List and Load Order, Texture/Mesh replacers (if any), 3rd party plugins (Non-ESM/ESP like OBSE vN.N, Streamline vN.N etc)

 

There are a billion reasons why you could have a CTD because Oblivion is well known for CTDs.

 

So get that information and you'll be better equipped to receive an answer ;)

[nability]

Ok ok, im playing the official PCDVD version 1.2.416 with DLC shivering isles, Battlehorn Castle, Frostcrag, Horse Armor, Mehrunes Razor, Orrery, Spell Tomes, Thieves Den and Vile Lair. DLC i got via torrent not from the official site.

Texture/Mesh replacements I'm using Oblivion Audio and Visual Overhaul (OAVO) by Aragon Speed over at Planetelderscrolls, I' m also using some of th Better Cities mods as well.

OBSE version v0018 beta 4 and streamline 1.3

 

Mod list is as followed, load order using BOSS I have moved a few around at the end

 

 

Oblivion.esm

ScreenEffects.esm (unchecked)

EnhancedWeatherSIOnly.esm

All Natural Base.esm

MD_Saddle_Master.esm

NPC With Jobs.esm

Cobl Main.esm

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

Mart's Monster Mod.esm

Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm

TamrielTravellers.esm

Better Cities Resources.esm

BathingMod_Base.esm

CM Partners.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

UnnecessaryViolence.esm

TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp (Unchecked)

TNR - ShiveringIsles no helms.esp (Unchecked)

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp (Unchecked)

ln.esp (Unchecked)

AmbientTownSounds.esp

PCSoundSafana.esp

Storms & Sound SI.esp

Rainbows.esp

Cities Alive At Night.esp

CampfireBehavior.esp

Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp

kuerteeAutoSaveAndTime.esp

7lbsBedrolls-OBSE.esp

CM_Better Wine.esp

Cyrodilic Brandy.esp

Days&Months.esp

Inebriation.esp

P1DmenuEscape.esp

NWJtamriel.esp

OAVO - Weather and Water.esp

OAVO - Sound.esp

OAVO - Miscellaneous.esp

OAVO - Visual Enhancements.esp

P1DseeYouSleep.esp

Q - More and Moldy Ingredients v1.1.esp

SoT_Holiday.esp

Living Economy.esp

Living Economy - Items.esp

Cutthroat Merchants.esp

FF_Real_Thirst.esp

FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp

Choices and Consequences.esp

kuerteeIgnoringTheMainQuestHasConsequences.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp (Unchecked)

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp (Unchecked)

SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp (Unchecked)

DLCOrrery.esp (Unchecked)

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp (Unchecked)

DLCVileLair.esp (Unchecked)

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp (Unchecked)

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp (Unchecked)

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp (Unchecked)

DLCSpellTomes.esp (Unchecked)

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp (Unchecked)

ExnemEyeCandy.esp

CapesandCloaks.esp (Unchecked)

Lich King's Helm v1_0.esp

New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp

pizz_NINJA_outfit.esp

samurai.esp

PersuasionOverhaul.esp

RealSwords - Argonian LO-NPC.esp

RealSwords - Bosmer LO-NPC.esp

RealSwords - Khajiit LO-NPC v1.3.esp

RealSwords - Orc LO-NPC v1.0.esp

RealSwords - Redguard LO-NPC.esp

SexyKunoichi.esp

Arynns-Heavenly-Sword_HGEC-sexy.esp

Argent Iron Armor.esp

DianoArmor2.esp

Mounted_Steering.esp

Mounted_Spellcasting.esp

Mounted_Trampling.esp

FF_Horse_Whistle.esp

MD Saddlebags V3.0.esp

LadyDeadlock_LoveYourHorse.esp

MD Saddlebags v3.0 Alternative Trader Script.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp (Unchecked)

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp (Unchecked)

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp (Unchecked)

SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp (Unchecked)

Cobl Glue.esp

Cobl Si.esp

OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp

Cobl Tweaks.esp (Unchecked)

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

OOO-Ayleid Coin Add-on.esp

Choices and Consequences - OOO.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Durzog Addon.esp

TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp (Unchecked)

TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp

TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp

TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp

ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp

PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp (Unchecked)

FineWeapons for OOO.esp

RustyItems for OOO.esp

NpcwithJobsCreatures4000.esp

Enhanced Quest Roleplaying.esp

cyrodiil transportation network 1.3.esp

Ivellon.esp (Unchecked)

300_White Stallion 4.esp

Delivery Job - BC.esp

FF_WaldnirsWoods.esp

OldCrowInn.esp

LetThePeopleDrink.esp

Slof's Oblivion Goth Shop.esp

VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp

Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp

za_bankmod.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp (Unchecked)

DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp (Unchecked)

BattlehornCastleEnhanced.esp (Unchecked)

SM Plugin Refurbish - Battlehorn.esp (Unchecked)

Z's Skeleton Horse.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp (Unchecked)

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp (Unchecked)

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp (Unchecked)

Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - Knights .esp

Castle_Knightstone.esp

TOTF.esp

RTT.esp

The Lost Spires.esp

Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp

The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp

ElsweyrAnequina.esp

mythsandlegends.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp (Unchecked)

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp (Unchecked)

Bag of Alchemy.esp

CBScryingv1.esp

DropLitTorchOBSE.esp

Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp

Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.esp

FewerOBGates.esp (Unchecked)

kuerteeInventoryIsABackpack.esp

RandomGatesDontReopen.esp

kuerteeGoldIsAnInventoryItem.esp

Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp (Unchecked)

ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp

Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp

Border-Region-disabled.esp

Roleplaying Dialogues.esp

Quest Award Leveling.esp

Quest Award Leveling - Finger of the Mountain.esp

BathingMod_Soap.esp

BathingMod_Bathroom_Upgrades.esp

BathingMod_Placeable_Bathtubs.esp

RealisticFatigue.esp

RealisticHealth.esp

RealisticForceMedium.esp

RealisticMagicForceLow.esp

Jump_Adjustment-2211.esp

RealSleepExtended.esp

MidasSpells.esp

Midas OscuroGems.esp

Midas Betterholy.esp

Midas PowDur1.5x.esp

Midas Eldrich Power 2x.esp

Midas Tigernolevel OBSE.esp

Midas BeastFortify Fix OBSE.esp

StealthOverhaul.esp

DD_ProximitySneakPenalty.esp

ZumbsLockpickingMod - OBSE.esp

RenGuardOverhaul.esp

RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp

kuerteeNPCsYield.esp

RealisticLeveling.esp (Unchecked) (Dont seem to be working properly for me)

Stylish Jump.esp

Dark Dungeons - SI.esp

Corean_hair_for_Original_race.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp

Ethereal - Eyes.esp

Cosmetic Compilation - No NPC Changes.esp

CuteElf11.esp

IDKRRR_C_race.esp

CM Partners.esp

Sonia.esp

Cobl Races.esp

Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp

Better Cities Full.esp

Better Cities SKINGRAD.esp

Better Cities BRAVIL.esp

Better Cities ANVIL.esp

Better Cities - Brew House.esp

Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.esp

Better Cities CHORROL.esp

Better Cities CHEYDINHAL.esp

Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp (Unchecked)

Better Cities LEYAWIIN.esp

Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp

Better Cities BRUMA.esp

Better Cities - TIE Restricted Area.esp (Unchecked)

Better Cities - Valley View Estate.esp (Unchecked)

Better Cities - Old Crow Inn.esp (Unchecked)

Better Cities - COBL.esp (Unchecked)

Better Cities - Halcyon Island.esp (Unchecked)

[GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp (Unchecked)

Get Wet - just droplets.esp

Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp (Unchecked)

Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Streamline 3.1.esp

OAVO - IC improvements (Non-texture related).esp

OAVO - City Enhancements.esp

OAVO - Fundamental changes.esp

SkycaptainsBloodTime.esp

Thingamajigs Broken Armor.esp

OWE&P.esp

IDKRRR_Moira_race.esp

idkrrr_sarams_race.esp

Midas Reduced Costs Quarter.esp

Midas Creature Ingredients.esp

Samurai in Cyrodiil.esp

AkaviriSamuraiShop.esp

Dragon Sword.esp

BlackDragonNinjato.esp

SlashNSmashfix.esp

1AlexscorpionSilverDragonKatana.esp

Dancers clothes.esp

HentaiChinaDress.esp

DHuntress.esp

Elwing.esp

ShadowWatcher_HGEC_v2.esp

homura outfit HGEC.esp

ElvenPrincess.esp

Leina Armor.esp

SwordDancer.esp

Assassins guild.esp

PrivateArmy.esp

Arena Training Center.esp

Evantal's Dual Wielding.esp

DeathKightSpells v1_3.esp

SW01Minus.esp

DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp

Mayu's Animation Overhaul.esp

UnnecessaryViolence.esp

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

Duke Patricks - Basic Hypothermia.esp

Duke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrow Shots Alert The Target.esp

Duke Patricks - Magic you can believe in.esp

Duke Patricks - Semi Unlimited Rings And Amulets.esp

Duke Patricks - NPC MAGIC and Arrows Can Miss Now.esp

Duke Patricks - SCA Combat Archery.esp

Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer.esp

 

 

As i said the load order is from using BOSS but i did change some as the modder demanded that they load last for instance MAO, DEADLY REFLEX AND DUKE PATRICKS

 

Is this info enough to sort this problem thats slowly killing me?? :wallbash:

[ProzaicMuze]

That's quite the healthy list of mods you've got there ;)

 

I'm not a 100% sure, but based upon what I can tell the mods are and what mods I personally know of, here is a modified load order I would recommend before checking to see if the mods themselves are to blame.

 

Oblivion.esm

All Natural Base.esm

MD_Saddle_Master.esm

Cobl Main.esm

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

Mart's Monster Mod.esm

Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm

TamrielTravellers.esm

>>>ScreenEffects.esm<<<(To my knowledge, Enhanced Weather requires this to work properly)

EnhancedWeatherSIOnly.esm

Better Cities Resources.esm

NPC With Jobs.esm

BathingMod_Base.esm

CM Partners.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

UnnecessaryViolence.esm

--------------------------------------------------------[Foundation Mods/Completed DLC/Environment]

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

Cobl Glue.esp

Cobl Si.esp

OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp

>>>EnhancedWeather.esp<<< (SI version; I believe you need this in order to benefit from EnhancedWeatherSIOnly.esm.)

AmbientTownSounds.esp

PCSoundSafana.esp

Storms & Sound SI.esp

Rainbows.esp

Days&Months.esp

OAVO - Weather and Water.esp (Could conflict with EnhancedWeather.esp)

OAVO - Sound.esp

OAVO - Miscellaneous.esp

OAVO - Visual Enhancements.esp

The Lost Spires.esp

cyrodiil transportation network 1.3.esp

--------------------------------------------------------[Races/Cosmetics]

ExnemEyeCandy.esp (Consider upgrading to HGEC Female Body mod. It's Exnem but better and several of your current mods have an HGEC suffix)

Corean_hair_for_Original_race.esp

Cosmetic Compilation - No NPC Changes.esp

CuteElf11.esp

Cobl Races.esp

IDKRRR_C_race.esp

IDKRRR_Moira_race.esp

idkrrr_sarams_race.esp

Ethereal - Eyes.esp

BathingMod_Soap.esp

BathingMod_Bathroom_Upgrades.esp

BathingMod_Placeable_Bathtubs.esp

--------------------------------------------------------[Clothing/Armor]

Lich King's Helm v1_0.esp

pizz_NINJA_out fit.esp

samurai.esp (Assuming this is an outfit)

SexyKunoichi.esp (Assuming this is an outfit)

Argent Iron Armor.esp

DianoArmor2.esp

Dancers clothes.esp

HentaiChinaDress.esp

DHuntress.esp (Assuming this is an outfit)

Elwing.esp (Assuming this is an outfit)

ShadowWatcher_HGEC_v2.esp

homura outfit HGEC.esp

ElvenPrincess.esp (Assuming this is an outfit)

Leina Armor.esp

SwordDancer.esp (Assuming this is an outfit)

--------------------------------------------------------[Weapons]

New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp

Arynns-Heavenly-Sword_HGEC-sexy.esp

RealSwords - Argonian LO-NPC.esp

RealSwords - Bosmer LO-NPC.esp

RealSwords - Khajiit LO-NPC v1.3.esp

RealSwords - Orc LO-NPC v1.0.esp

RealSwords - Redguard LO-NPC.esp

Dragon Sword.esp

BlackDragonNinjato.esp

1AlexscorpionSilverDragonKatana.esp

kuerteeInventoryIsABackpack.esp

kuerteeGoldIsAnInventoryItem.esp

--------------------------------------------------------[Game Tweaks/Pre-Overhauls]

Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp

CM_Better Wine.esp

Cyrodilic Brandy.esp

Living Economy.esp

Living Economy - Items.esp

Cutthroat Merchants.esp

za_bankmod.esp

Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp

Jump_Adjustment-2211.esp

Stylish Jump.esp

Inebriation.esp

LetThePeopleDrink.esp

Evantal's Dual Wielding.esp

DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp

SlashNSmashfix.esp

SoT_Holiday.esp

CampfireBehavior.esp

Get Wet - just droplets.esp

P1DmenuEscape.esp

ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp

--------------------------------------------------------[Overhauls]

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

OOO-Ayleid Coin Add-on.esp

>>>Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp<<< (If you have the .ESM, include the .ESP)

Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Durzog Addon.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp

--------------------------------------------------------[Post-Overhauls]

TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp

TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp

TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp

ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp

Roleplaying Dialogues.esp

RenGuardOverhaul.esp

RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp

VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp

FineWeapons for OOO.esp

RustyItems for OOO.esp

kuerteeIgnoringTheMainQuestHasConsequences.esp

--------------------------------------------------------[Magic]

MidasSpells.esp

Midas OscuroGems.esp

Midas Betterholy.esp

Midas PowDur1.5x.esp

Midas Eldrich Power 2x.esp

Midas Tigernolevel OBSE.esp

Midas BeastFortify Fix OBSE.esp

Midas Reduced Costs Quarter.esp

Midas Creature Ingredients.esp

DeathKightSpells v1_3.esp

CBScryingv1.esp

--------------------------------------------------------[Miscellaneous]

Q - More and Moldy Ingredients v1.1.esp

RandomGatesDontReopen.esp

Bag of Alchemy.esp

Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp

300_White Stallion 4.esp

Z's Skeleton Horse.esp

FF_Horse_Whistle.esp

MD Saddlebags V3.0.esp

MD Saddlebags v3.0 Alternative Trader Script.esp

LadyDeadlock_LoveYourHorse.esp

Mounted_Steering.esp

Mounted_Spellcasting.esp

Mounted_Trampling.esp

StealthOverhaul.esp (If you want following stealth changes this must go first. Could still be conflicts though.)

DD_ProximitySneakPenalty.esp

ZumbsLockpickingMod - OBSE.esp

Thingamajigs Broken Armor.esp

kuerteeAutoSaveAndTime.esp

Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp

Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.esp

PersuasionOverhaul.esp

FF_Real_Thirst.esp

FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp

7lbsBedrolls-OBSE.esp (I believe Real Sleep includes Bedrolls making this mod redundant)

RealSleepExtended.esp

P1DseeYouSleep.esp

RealisticFatigue.esp

RealisticHealth.esp

RealisticForceMedium.esp

RealisticMagicForceLow.esp

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - Knights .esp

--------------------------------------------------------[Companions/NPCs]

PrivateArmy.esp

CM Partners.esp

Sonia.esp (Assuming this is a Companion)

ElsweyrAnequina.esp (Assuming this is a Companion)

Samurai in Cyrodiil.esp

kuerteeNPCsYield.esp

NpcwithJobsCreatures4000.esp

--------------------------------------------------------[Homes]

Castle_Knightstone.esp

--------------------------------------------------------[buildings/Locations]

Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp (Unsure, but this might conflict with MMM's version of City Defenses)

Better Cities Full.esp

Better Cities SKINGRAD.esp

Better Cities BRAVIL.esp

Better Cities ANVIL.esp

Better Cities - Brew House.esp

Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.esp

Better Cities CHORROL.esp

Better Cities CHEYDINHAL.esp

Better Cities LEYAWIIN.esp

Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp

Better Cities BRUMA.esp

OAVO - IC improvements (Non-texture related).esp

OAVO - City Enhancements.esp

OAVO - Fundamental changes.esp

Cities Alive At Night.esp

Slof's Oblivion Goth Shop.esp

Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp

AkaviriSamuraiShop.esp

Arena Training Center.esp

FF_WaldnirsWoods.esp

OldCrowInn.esp

Dark Dungeons - SI.esp

Border-Region-disabled.esp

--------------------------------------------------------[Quests/Active DLC]

Assassins guild.esp

Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp

The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp

SkycaptainsBloodTime.esp (Assuming this is a Quest)

Enhanced Quest Roleplaying.esp

Quest Award Leveling.esp

Quest Award Leveling - Finger of the Mountain.esp

--------------------------------------------------------[sensitive Mods]

Mayu's Animation Overhaul.esp

UnnecessaryViolence.esp

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

Duke Patricks - Basic Hypothermia.esp

Duke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrow Shots Alert The Target.esp

Duke Patricks - Magic you can believe in.esp

Duke Patricks - Semi Unlimited Rings And Amulets.esp

Duke Patricks - NPC MAGIC and Arrows Can Miss Now.esp

Duke Patricks - SCA Combat Archery.esp

Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer.esp

--------------------------------------------------------[streamline/Bash Patch]

Streamline 3.1.esp (Turn this off after re-ordering and disable auto-save entirely. I have a hunch)

Bashed Patch, 0.esp (IMO this should ALWAYS be last because it loses its effect if higher up the list)

 

--------------------------------------------------------[Don't Know What Mod Is]

mythsandlegends.esp

OWE&P.esp

TOTF.esp

RTT.esp

SW01Minus.esp

Choices and Consequences.esp

Delivery Job - BC.esp

NWJtamriel.esp

--------------------------------------------------------[REMOVE]

_Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp (Cosmetic Compilation already has Ren's Beauty Pack in it)

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp (OOO already has this)

DropLitTorchOBSE.esp (OOO already has this)

________________________________________________________________________________

 

If you don't already have them, download Oblivion Mod Manager (OBMM) and Wrye Bash. Wrye Bash will allow you to most benefit from setting up your mods in this order by creating a Bash Patch that will pull elements from mods that are being overridden from mods below it down to the bottom of the load order thus allowing BOTH elements to co-exist. You should also consider downloading TES4Edit.exe and reading the tutorials on how to manually edit out conflicts. For reasons unknown, even the Bash Patch is unable to fix all conflicts and the majority of the content you want is going to be removed by a mod down the list without you knowing it. A great example is OOO and MMM. Despite them having compatibility patches, MMM still removes the majority of OOO's changes to weapon Leveled lists and creature Leveled lists. if you want to have both Overhauls working, you can use a Bash Patch and then edit the Bash Patch with TES4Edit to catch and lists Wrye Bash was unable to merge (and there will be a lot).

 

To explain how I organized your list, most of the headers are self-explanatory, but Game Tweaks, Pre-Overhauls, Post-Overhauls and Miscellaneous are as follows:

 

Any mod that changes the way the game functions in a way such as adding a menu, removing an annoying sound, increasing your jump height, modifying the color of your health bar etc is a Game Tweak. More importantly it DOESN'T conflict with any other mod which allows you to place it before Major Overhauls.

 

Any mod that is specifically mentioned as being placed before XYZ Overhaul is a Pre-Overhaul mod. Living Economy is one example.

 

Post-Overhauls are typically compatibility ESPs or other mods specifically required to be AFTER an Overhaul mod.

 

Any time a mod will conflict with another mod and you WANT it to override some feature of that mod, it goes in Miscellaneous. It isn't mentioned as being required to go there, but some element of the mod conflicts with another and you want this mod to override the other. Keep in mind that this could cause multiple mods to be placed here that must go in a certain sequence. The StealthOverhaul.esp and the mods immediately after it are an example.

 

 

If I misplaced any of the mods due to not knowing what the mod actually does (for example if I assumed the mod was something it wasn't) then make sure you place it in the category you think it should belong in. This also applies to the mods I don't know off the top of my head.

 

Let me know if this fixes the problem at all (or if it causes new problems) as a change this big is likely to uncover some other features you didn't know were missing or simply remove them.

 

(To anyone else, feel free to interject if I'm incorrect on mod ordering. I don't know all the mods out there ;P)

[bben46]

Too many mods to figure out just from a list. Maybe this will help.

Here is a link to Bben's Crash Help

http://www.tesnexus.com/articles/article.php?id=298.

[nability]

Why thank you ;)

Okay I'm gonna give that a try I'm just sorting the load order as i speak so I'll report back as soon as.

One thing though if i need to edit the bash patch I'm gonna need the tutorials from the site but if I'm not mistaken it's down at the moment ain't it?

[nability]

Right it would seem that the CTD when entering the Imperial Market has been fixed but for some reason my Deadly Reflex mod wont work, I get the slow motion, the heart beat but then it missed EVERY time any input on that one maybe?....

SO FAR everything else seems to be in order though.

[Frankalank]

Maybe u mixed up some files and one of those files was something in the market.

[nability]

Okay just to keep ProzaicMuze updated on the situation, the load order I do beleave has bin a big help but it didn't stop the crashing...on the continuation of the problem I had a big think back on when it all started and it all actually started when I installed the OAVO mod so i COMPLETELY uninstalled Oblivion and all related filed and started over using QTP3 instead and after going through all that what happened....CRASH...saamme crap, then i noticed when i was using QTP3 i wort using none on the BCmods so i took those off aswell and that done the trick, the crashing hasn't stopped completely but it has decreased dramatically (say i had 10 crashes its now dropped to 3-4) why BC would cause problems like that i don't know, but yeah that's how things is at the moment.

[eleventeen]

Old topic I know.. But first one that comes up if you google "ayleid coin" crash on save..

 

So I figured this (or a related) crash out, it's OOO, and looks like the OP had an older version of the mod too as a separate esp (Modern versions its now integrated) - OOO's ayleid coins are bugged - There are 2 separate formIDs for them. Yet for some reason they stack in your inventory if you have both types.. The game doesn't like this - normally identical named items with different IDs do not stack. It seems okay in your player inventory for a while, but not elsewhere. So when I went to sell the whole stack, the vendor ends up with 2 different form IDs in 1 stack, then when I save the game crashes.

 

Fix:

Get the console commands mod:

https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/47637

 

type help2 "Ayleid Coin"

You'll see the 2 different form IDs.

Do player.removeitem X Y

X = either form ID, y = Quantity : you can do over the amount you have.

 

Remove them all, might take multiple commands due to the bugged stack, then save should work fine.

 

I believe the ones out in the open vs the ones you find in chests are different IDs. But not sure. Either way avoid selling them or hopefully OOO can fix this.

 

Else on the older version you can disable that separate esp.. On the updated version no choice but to not use it at all or do this workaround.