Game crash at startup - possible loadorder issue

[LID919]

I recently decided to give Requiem a try. As I was starting a new game anyway, I took the opportunity to also uninstall some mods that weren't quite doing it for me, and try out some others, like swapping UFO for AFT. Once all the ESPs were in place, I ran BOSS without getting any unusual messages, then attempted to launch the game. The Skyrim window opened, but remained on a static screen showing the Dovahkiin symbol without showing the main Skyrim menu. I checked all the mods and things looked fine to me. Could someone take a look at my loadorder list and tell me where I might be encountering issues?

 

I am running through script extender, and Skyrim itself was working fine before I did the massive plugin restructuring.

Here is my plugin list:

 

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

Hearthfires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Falskaar.esm

Wyrmstooth.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

SPIKE.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

TouringCarriages.esp

Player Size Asjuster.esp

SkyUI.esp

DragonSoulConverter.esp

Cloaks.esp

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

Requiem.esp

Requiem - Resources.esp

Requiem - Hard Times.esp

Requiem - Immersive Armors.esp

Requiem - HearthFires.esp

Requiem - Frostfall.esp

Requiem - Falskaar.esp

Requiem - Dragonborn.esp

Requiem - Immersive Weapons.esp

Requiem - Wyrmstooth.esp

Bard.esp

Bards&Merchants.esp

Dawnstar Sanctuary Overhaul

HearthfireMultiKid.esp

KRZ - Better Archmage Quarters.esp

Reforging Magnus.esp

ResearchThief.esp

The Parthunax Dilemma.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

Thieves Guild Requirements.esp

Shortcuts.esp

ClimatesOfTarmiel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp

Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp

BloodmoonRising.esp

Apocalypes - The Spell Package.esp

Colorful_Magic.esp

UnlockSpell.esp

Teleport.esp

Teleport-DG Plugin.esp

Teleport-DB Plugin.esp

Vampirelordroyal.esp

3DNPC.esp

RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp

RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp

RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp

RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp

Marriable Serana.esp

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

Skyrim Unbound.esp

TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp

TTYM - Frostfall Module.esp

Dynamic Timescale.esp

RND Requiem Food Patch.esp

WaterFromWellsDragonbornRND.esp

RND_AnimalLoot.esp

Atherial Crown Redone.esp

College for Non-Mages.esp

[camaro_69_327]

Well according to that list the game cant start...Update.esm & Skyrim.esm are missing. Check they dident get unticked .....

 

Post you BOSS log (in spoiler tags) , a couple of mods are not in the proper places...Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp for one, should load directly after the Dragonborn.esm.

 

:)

Edited April 13, 2014 by camaro_69_327

[LID919]

I just checked and you are correct that Update.esm and Skyrim.esm are not ticked, I had not noticed that. However, they are not on the list at all now, so I cannot tick them. I looked in the Skyrim/Data folder and they are still there. Could corrupt files be causing this issue? Should I just re-install Skyrim, then try re-installing the mods?

[camaro_69_327]

What are you using to install mods?....."they are not in the list" ....the default launcher?

 

No need to un/re-install...use steam to "Verify game cache files" if you have corrupt files of any kind it will download what is needed.

 

You could also.....find this file>>"plugins.txt"...it is located here>>>C:\Users\your user name\AppData\Local\Skyrim ., and delete it. Now start the default game launcher, "SkyrimLauncher.exe" it will create a new one. This is the file that Skyrim uses to load all your mods..something may have corrupted it.

Edited April 13, 2014 by camaro_69_327

[LID919]

I use the default launcher.

 

I verified the files, it said it found some issues and fixed them, but skyrim.esm and update.esm still would not show up in the launcher.

 

I deleted the specified file. When I reopened the Launcher, they still would not show.

[chanchan05]

What are you using to install mods? NMM? Mod Organizer? Manually?

[camaro_69_327]

open the launcher again....

 

When you deleted that file ,then opened the launcher it couldn't show you anything yet, as it had not re-written the file,.(it writes as you close it)..then you would have to open the launcher again to see if it made a difference.

 

After opening the launcher again ...post the contents of "plugins.txt" here, in spoiler tags.

 

And as asked above...what are you using to install mods? Post your BOSS log., (also in spoiler tags)

[LID919]

I install mods manually.

 

Here is the plugins.txt:

 

 

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# This file is used by Skyrim to keep track of your downloaded content.

# Please do not modify this file.

3DNPC.esp

Aetherial Crown Redone.esp

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

Bard.esp

Bards&Merchants.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Become Shadows.esp

BloodmoonRising.esp

Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

Cloaks.esp

College for Non-Mages.esp

Colorful_Magic - Orig.esp

Colorful_Magic.esp

companionInsightFix.esp

Dawnguard.esm

dawnstarsanctuaryoverhaul.esp

Dragonborn.esm

DragonSoulConverter.esp

Dynamic TimeScale.esp

Economy Overhaul.esp

Falskaar.esm

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

HearthfireMultiKid.esp

HearthFires.esm

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

KRZ - Better Archmage Quarters.esp

marriable serana.esp

Player Size Adjuster.esp

RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp

Reforging Magnus - No Scripts.esp

Reforging Magnus.esp

Requiem - Dragonborn.esp

Requiem - Falskaar.esp

Requiem - Frostfall.esp

Requiem - Hard Times.esp

Requiem - HearthFires.esp

Requiem - Immersive Armors.esp

Requiem - Immersive Weapons.esp

Requiem - Resources.esp

Requiem - Wyrmstooth.esp

Requiem.esp

ResearchThief.esp

RND Requiem Food Patch.esp

RND_AnimalLoot.esp

RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp

RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp

RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp

Serana.esp

sheogorathnordpreset.esp

Shortcuts.esp

Shoutcraft.esp

skyrim unbound.esp

SkyUI.esp

SleepingDangers-SandsofTime.esp

SPIKE.esm

Teleport-DB Plugin.esp

Teleport-DG Plugin.esp

Teleport.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

Thieves Guild Requirements.esp

TouringCarriages.esp

TTYM - Frostfall Module.esp

TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp

UnlockSpell.esp

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Vampirelordroyal.esp

Vokunsil - Copy - Backup.esp

Vokunsil - Copy.esp

Vokunsil.esp

WaterFromWellsDragonbornRND.esp

Wyrmstooth.esp

And here is the BOSS log:

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These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.
Skyrim.esm Active
Update.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Contains dirty edits: 92 ITM, 3 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

Dawnguard.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 619 ITM, 82 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Version 2.0.0b ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

HearthFires.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 184 ITM, 11 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Version 2.0.2 Active
Dragonborn.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 61 ITM, 8 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

Falskaar.esm Version 1.0.0 Active
Wyrmstooth.esp Version 1.10 Active
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Version 3.1 Active
SPIKE.esm Active
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Version 1.3.3c ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Note: If you using version 2.0 of the unofficial patches but you see this message you need to download this file: userlist.txt. After the download you need to copy this file to your 'BOSS\Skyrim\' folder or add the contents of this file to an already existing userlist.txt. Just ignore this message after updating any preexisting userlist.txt or copying the file to your 'BOSS\Skyrim\' folder.

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Version 1.0.4 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}

Serana.esp Active
Chesko_Frostfall.esp Active
Economy Overhaul.esp Active
TouringCarriages.esp Version 2.2.0 Active
Player Size Adjuster.esp Version 1.1 Active
SkyUI.esp Version 4.1 Active
DragonSoulConverter.esp Active
Cloaks.esp Active
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp Active
hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Version 6 ActiveContains dirty edits: 7 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Immersive Weapons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Requiem.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Note: Requiem makes a LOT of changes. You may want to consider creating and using a Userlist based on your particular mod loadout.

Requiem - Resources.esp Active
Requiem - Hard Times.esp Active
Requiem - Immersive Armors.esp Active
Requiem - HearthFires.esp Active
Requiem - Frostfall.esp Active
Requiem - Falskaar.esp Active
Requiem - Dragonborn.esp Active
Requiem - Immersive Weapons.esp Active
Requiem - Wyrmstooth.esp Active
Bard.esp Active
Bards&Merchants.esp Active
dawnstarsanctuaryoverhaul.esp Active
HearthfireMultiKid.esp Active
KRZ - Better Archmage Quarters.esp Active
Reforging Magnus.esp Active
ResearchThief.esp Active
SleepingDangers-SandsofTime.esp Active
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp Version 1.2.4 Active
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp ActiveNote: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.

Thieves Guild Requirements.esp Active
Shortcuts.esp Active
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp Version 3.1- ActiveContains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
Incompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul

ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Version 3.1- ActiveIncompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul

Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp Active
BloodmoonRising.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 14 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp Active
Colorful_Magic.esp Active
UnlockSpell.esp Active
Shoutcraft.esp Version 0.1 Active
Teleport.esp Active
Teleport-DG Plugin.esp Active
Teleport-DB Plugin.esp Active
Vampirelordroyal.esp Active
3DNPC.esp Active
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Requires: RND_USKP-Patch.esp

RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp Active
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp Active
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp Active
marriable serana.esp Version 1.6.2 Active
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp Active
skyrim unbound.esp Active
TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp Active
TTYM - Frostfall Module.esp Active
Dynamic TimeScale.esp Active
RND Requiem Food Patch.esp Active
WaterFromWellsDragonbornRND.esp Active

[chanchan05]

I think a problem occurred when you uninstalled previous mods. Some mods overwrite vanilla values. Did you have a backup of your original vanilla data folder? Files may have gone missing that weren't replaced when you got removed them. You should use a mod manager to make sure that vanilla files are returned when you uninstall mods. Remove all mods and related data, verify files on Steam then reinstall mods using a mod manager. If worst comes to worst you may have to reinstall, especially since you have to remove script files and whatnot with a manual uninstallation.

[LID919]

Odds are that is the issue, something was overwritten or destroyed, and now it won't work. Thanks for helping with the diagnosis, I'll be re-installing it (I hate the forced Steam integration, back in the days of Oblivion I could uninstall and re-install in a few minutes. And now?)