Mod Troubles

[Nathaufein]

Ok, for some reason I am having a few strange problems.

 

 

1. Whenever I move (left, right, forward, backward) my character will continue to walk in that direction until I move the camera or walk in another direction.

NPC's are experiencing the same problems as I am.

 

2. Whenever I open my inventory, the game automatically crashes.

 

3. All extra features and scripts, such as using UV keys, automatically crashes the game.

 

 

 

I have tried many things, but I cannot figure out the problem. I moved around the load order and all sorts of other things. Help?

 

I have latest OBSE and OBMM, and I use them regularly.

I have TES4Edit and Wrye Bash, but I do not use them. In fact, I am not very technically literate, and I don't really understand how to use them. I only have them in case they are needed to fix something. Feel welcome to post a quick bit about how to use them here, I would like to know; the read-mes haven't helped my understanding very much.

I use ElChE's automatic content validator. So invalidation shouldn't be the problem.

I have the latest drivers, my hard drive is de-fragmented, et cetera. I am almost absolutely sure that it is not my computer.

I have read through most of the read-mes (not recently, but when I first installed every mod). Might be a conflict between mods, but I'm not aware of it.

 

 

 

 

Here is my load order, using BOSS:

 

Oblivion.esm

 

Cobl Main.esm

 

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

 

TamrielTravellers.esm

 

Better Cities Resources.esm

 

AFC v2 Core.esm

 

A_Bloody_Mess.esm

 

HorseCombatMaster.esm

 

UnnecessaryViolence.esm

 

HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp

 

Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0.esp

 

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

 

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

 

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

 

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

 

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

 

Better Cities .esp

 

Natural_Weather_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael.esp

 

Natural_Weather_HDR_2.1.2_coloroverride.esp

 

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

 

Improved Water.esp

 

PowerAttack Voicemod - The Shivering Isles.esp

 

weather inside [seasons] v1.2.esp

 

AFC v2 Combo Chains.esp

 

AFC v2 Combat Moves.esp

 

AFC v2 Damage Text.esp

 

AFC v2 Gauntlet Weaponry.esp

 

AFC v2 Locational Damage.esp

 

Item interchange - Extraction.esp -(Inactive. From Cobl. Don't know how to bash patch it.)

 

PrivateQuarters.esp

 

Oblivion_SI Vwalk Full.esp

 

Living Economy.esp

 

Living Economy - Items.esp

 

DLCHorseArmor.esp

 

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

 

DLCOrrery.esp

 

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

 

DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp

 

DLCVileLair.esp

 

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

 

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

 

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

 

DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk.esp

 

MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp

 

SilverwareWeapons.esp

 

PersuasionOverhaul_LITE.esp

 

DLCThievesDen.esp

 

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

 

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

 

DLCThievesDen Vwalk.esp

 

Cobl Glue.esp

 

Cobl Si.esp

 

OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp

 

Cobl Tweaks.esp

 

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

 

OOO-Water_Weeds.esp

 

OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp

 

OOO-Armor_Perks_WearRate_Repair.esp

 

OOO-Birthsigns.esp

 

OOO-Combat_Skills_Perks_Marksmanship.esp

 

OOO-DaedraLord_Quests.esp

 

OOO-Dangerous_traps.esp

 

OOO-Deadly_Combat.esp

 

OOO-Magic_Effects+Enchantments.esp

 

OOO-Magic_Effects+Spells.esp

 

OOO-Magic_Game_Settings.esp

 

OOO-Potions.esp

 

OOO-ThiefGuild_Difficult.esp

 

TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp

 

TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp

 

TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp

 

TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp

 

ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp

 

ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions.esp

 

OOOLivingEconomyWornRebalance.esp

 

KvatchAftermath.esp

 

Adult_BookStore.esp -(Yea... I know...)

 

Thermae.esp

 

WhiteRoseRiverFarm.esp

 

To Feed an Empire - Wickmere Farm.esp

 

DLCFrostcrag.esp

 

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

 

DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp

 

xuldarkforest.esp

 

xulStendarrValley.esp

 

xulTheHeath.esp

 

XulEntiusGorge.esp

 

KvatchAftermath-EntiusGorge compatibility patch.esp

 

xulFallenLeafEverglade.esp

 

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

 

xulChorrolHinterland.esp

 

xulChorrolHinterland Vwalk.esp

 

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

 

xulbravilbarrowfields.esp

 

xulbravilbarrowfields Vwalk.esp

 

xulLushWoodlands.esp

 

xulAncientYews.esp

 

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

 

xulCloudtopMountains.esp

 

xulArriusCreek.esp

 

xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

 

xulRollingHills_EV.esp

 

xulRollingHills_EV Vwalk.esp

 

xulPantherRiver.esp

 

xulRiverEthe.esp

 

xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp

 

xulBrenaRiverRavine Vwalk.esp

 

xulImperialIsle.esp

 

xulImperialIsle Vwalk.esp

 

xulBlackwoodForest.esp

 

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

 

Harvest [Flora].esp

 

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

 

Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp

 

Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp

 

Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp

 

A Bloody Mess - Bloody Fights.esp

 

A Bloody Mess - Arena Wash Basin.esp

 

RenCorpseMod.esp

 

Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp

 

tag_NaturalWildlife.esp

 

RealisticForceMedium.esp

 

RealisticMagicForceMedium.esp

 

RenGuardOverhaul.esp

 

RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp

 

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp

 

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

 

Deadly Reflex - Breathing Motion & Head Bobbing.esp

 

OOO-Level_Slow.esp

 

Stylish Jump.esp

 

Item interchange - Placement.esp -(Inactive. From Cobl. Don't know how to bash patch it)

 

Beautiful People.esp

 

Cobl Races.esp

 

Cobl Races TNR.esp

 

Cobl Races TNR SI.esp

 

Cobl Races - Balanced.esp

 

Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp

 

Better Cities Full.esp

 

BCBravilFULL-Barrowfields patch.esp

 

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp

 

BCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland fix.esp

 

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp

 

Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp

 

Better Imperial City.esp

 

Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp

 

Better Cities - COBL.esp

 

Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp

 

MrPwner's Ambient Inn's.esp

 

1662-1.21-Inebriation + Skooma addon-TESSource.esp

 

personality_idles3b.esp

 

UnnecessaryViolence.esp

 

Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp -(Inactive since I do not know how to bash patch it)

 

Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp

 

Bashed Patch, 0.esp -(This is blank. Again, can't figure out bash patching)

 

Streamline 3.1.esp

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well..... Any ideas?

[Nathaufein]

Huge Update:

 

I figured out how to bash patch... I feel retarded now. Anyway, I was having a googly eye problem, but that is fixed now.

 

The bash patch didn't fix the three problems I stated at the beginning though....

 

 

I unloaded all my mods except for oblivion.esm and the shivering isles.esp. I still had those problems... Apparently the problem is not with a mod conflict, but in the actual game itself!?!?!?

 

Now I'm not sure if I should put another post in the regular oblivion troubleshooting area, or maybe go to the Bethesda technical forums?

 

I might have broken the game, but if possible I would like to not have to reinstall everything.

[DavidBudreck]

As long as you've taken the steps to remove all mods, it isn't going to be THAT much more time/trouble to reinstall. That is what I would recommend.

 

However, look through the rest of the threads on this page first. There is already a lot of information by bben and the others on possible problems/fixex, like if you are using Windows Vista, etc.

 

Very much worth the trouble to look through a few threads.

[Nathaufein]

I didn't uninstall my mods, I simply deactivated them for a test. It is possible to reinstall and just save your data folder, but I would rather avoid that process.

 

 

One of the first things I did was to read the sticky threads and go through all of those tweaks. I'm not sure what you mean by "look through the rest of the threads on this page first". I looked through the last 15 pages of this directory and didn't find any threads that were similar to mine. Clarify?

 

 

I was hoping someone would have seen this before and know what was causing it so that I could correct it with minimal deletion/overwriting/reinstalling.

 

 

If all else fails, I will eventually reinstall it and start modding again from scratch.

[DavidBudreck]

What I meant by looking through the current threads, is that BBen and others with more experience on things like this than me have answered very similar questions. BBen has a link to a page he created specifically about troubleshooting these things.

 

I know they aren't exactly the same as your problem, but by going through the previous threads you might be able to find something more quickly than waiting for one of them to come online and answer you directly.

[bben46]

#1, Keeps moving. Do you have a joystick attached? That can sometimes cause this.

[Nathaufein]

No. The joystick problem was the thing that kept popping up whenever I looked on Google for a solution. I do not have a joystick, and I specifically edited the bUSE .ini setting to zero as suggested just in case.

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT:

 

I did some more testing. Not only do I keep moving until I press another key or change the camera, whenever I or an NPC is standing still the legs still move around. The body doesn't move, but the legs do.

It is possible that whatever governs the mechanics of walking is messing up? But then how do you explain the inventory problem?.....

 

I successfully used some of UV's features, like the throw key, without the game crashing. Deadly Reflex shield bash and dodge buttons work fine too.

 

I can pick up things and I can open up dead NPC inventories just fine, clicking the button in the NPC's inventory to look at my own inventory.

However, when I press the TAB button to access my inventory, the game automatically crashes.

 

 

 

EDIT:

 

I found out that the walking is normal when I have a weapon out or my fists up. The walking is normal and the legs don't move around in Fighting Stance.