snazznazz Posted August 28, 2003 Share Posted August 28, 2003 Hello All, I am pretty new at this game. I got a copy of it while constructing a 'puter - came with the graphics card, I think. It also came with no directions of any sort, just what I needed. I have, after about a month, figured out how to do most stuff and have managed to make it to level three. While playing at level two, I failed to help a couple of the people I met in the game and found that I was putting 'way too many hours of play in to reach level three. I went back to a save before I met those characters and started from there again. I either avoided those characters or accomplished what they asked this time. Shortly thereafter, I advanced to level three. My question is; If you agree to do something for a character in the game and fail, are you doomed to stay at that level forever? I'd hate to think I have to go back and start again losing too many hours of play (and too many hours of sleep) to be where I should be for the time I've put in! Any comments would be appreciated... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switch Posted August 28, 2003 Share Posted August 28, 2003 erm... well leveling up isnt determined by quests u do for people, its determined by increases in skills. 10 increases in either your major/minor skills will get u a level up. and yes, a month is FAR too long for u 2 only have gotten 2 level 3 (if ur talking about a real life month :P) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snazznazz Posted August 28, 2003 Author Share Posted August 28, 2003 Thanks for the prompt reply. I see that it depends upon skill increases as opposed to requests completed to gain skill levels. In order to get anything accomplished while learning how to play this game, I used the console to set all skill levels to 100%. I imagine that this has a major bearing in why I have not advanced at an acceptable level. I guess I will have to start my character from scratch and proceed from there to get to an acceptable level. I am currently at the Fourth Trial in what I assume is the main quest and have lately found some caverns and dungeons that I am completely overpowered in (even at 100% skill). Once again, thanks for the reply. I'll figure this puppy out if it kills me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switch Posted August 28, 2003 Share Posted August 28, 2003 Thanks for the prompt reply. I see that it depends upon skill increases as opposed to requests completed to gain skill levels. In order to get anything accomplished while learning how to play this game, I used the console to set all skill levels to 100%. I imagine that this has a major bearing in why I have not advanced at an acceptable level. I guess I will have to start my character from scratch and proceed from there to get to an acceptable level. I am currently at the Fourth Trial in what I assume is the main quest and have lately found some caverns and dungeons that I am completely overpowered in (even at 100% skill). Once again, thanks for the reply. I'll figure this puppy out if it kills me! lol just goes 2 show u shudnt start a game by cheating (but TBH i usually do :P) yeah 100 is max for ur skills. max skills = no levelups :P and yes u will be overpowered in dungeons at 100 if u have the difficulty set below hard, even then u'll find it pretty easy. dont worry, the expansions have more difficult stuff :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marxist ßastard Posted August 28, 2003 Share Posted August 28, 2003 Go to the Fighters' Training Area in the Arena canton and issue the following commands... Player->Setlevel "59"Player->Setheavyarmor "90" Then, go to the Altmer in the set of Ebonies and get training for Heavy Armor. Repeat this until your Heavy Armor skill is back to 100 and you get a message about needing to rest and meditate. At this point, go to the Black Shalk Cornerclub in the Foreign Quarter. Buy a room and sleep for an hour. When you wake up, your level will be 60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switch Posted August 28, 2003 Share Posted August 28, 2003 thats the way 2 do it if u wanna continue cheating. but u cant really get the best out of this game unless u play legit IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 Lol!! :D I have been properly chastized for setting my skill levels at 100 and I'll take my medicine. However, I started this game with a CD-ROM and that's it - there was no manual, instructions or any other information (other that what's listed in the controls option) included with the disk. :blink: I found a site that said one could set levels, so I figured, "What the hey?" At least by doing so I have learned much about the game and can now spare all of you a lot of the obvious questions. (I'll bet you're glad about that.) <_< I will start from scratch and see how it goes. I know that I will fare well, now that I have such a reliable source of knowledge to draw from. Someone should let our illustrious leaders know about you guys; all the world's ills might be cured, post haste! B) I want to thank all who replied, and replied so promptly. You folk must not have a life either! Lol! :rolleyes: snazznazz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanateros Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 I can give you a few tips to help you in starting a new character and gaining levels legitly. I'm glad you did decide to play the game the way it was intended because what's the point when you start out really powerful. I'll break it down into sections based on the types of skills you might have being magic, stealth or combat. With each, though, I often use compents of one or even both of the other fields to maximize in gaining levels. For me this works, the characters I make are all dependent on their own skills to improve, however first determine what your character is like and then build from there. Here are some tips to help you out on your journey: Mages:Leveling mages is one of the most easiest and straightforward things to do in the game since the simple act of casting a spell gains you points to level that skill. To get up a specific skill (say Illusion for example) what I find is the best way to reach 100 skill legit is to go to a mages guild member or freelance NPC who has the spellmaking ability and create a spell for the specific school called a training spell. All this is is a cheap, 1 magicka spell that serves no other purpose but to help level you up. using the Illusion example heres how it's done. Damian (my mage) wants to learn how to paralyze people for a long time but his Illusion skill is rather low. He goes to the local mages guild and makes a 1% for 1 second chameleon spell that costs 1 magicka and only 7 gold to make. As he travels from town to town along the road he constantly casts the training spell earning his skills and levels. (On the road from Seyda Neen to Ebonheart he usually gains about 5 levels in any skill that uses a training spell). Thieves/Assassins:They are a little tougher to level than the mage, but there are some skills that you can get up really high in a relative short amount of time. First you need to get sneak up, this is easy, I don't consider it cheating too much but some might. what you do is go into any merchant store and position yourself near the merchant. Find something that you can put on a key and hold down the sneak key; then put the weight on the keyboard. Usually you do this before you go out and do something for a while. Then when you come back the Sneak Skill should be up pretty high if not maxed and you'll gain a lot of levels. As for the other skills it's just a matter of using them all the time in order to get them up, there really is no fast track to get those up high really fast. Fighters:Well this one is pretty much self explanatory....go out and pound stuff into the ground. Tips I use:1)For any fighter to get good you have to fight, but looking for a fight sometimes isn't really what you're in the mood for. Take the conjuration skill in magic then summon creatures to fight and also beat you up to level your armor skills. Once you are high enough move on to tougher summons, just be sure you can heal yourself if you get too low.2) again for fighters I also take Restoration skill in Magic, go out into the wild, find a mudcrab or some rats or nix-hound and let it beat me up until I heal myself...this helps get Block and Armor skills up3)if you really want a high athletics skill hit always run and point yourself into a wall, leave the game running and go do something else...come back and athletics should level a few time (but not that many it's somewhat slow)4) as for attributes (strength etc.) pick out the three you REALLY want to get to level 100 early on. then use those skills that are associated with those attributes to gain big bonuses on those attributes when you lvl (up to 5x normal). That's about all I can think of for now, this should help get you started and probably developing your own way of leveling your character. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetty Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 I started game much un the same manner lik snazznazz - no manual, no map, no nothin'. Found lots of information on the web dowloaded a manual in pdf from somewhere and interactive high-res map from now gone UESP site (that aws really something very useful for a beginner!).For my character I chose redguard female and off she went to dangerous world of Morrowind. As soon as I got to Balmora I mede this nice town my personal operation centre. Signed up with every faction there is to sign up and did first quests. Obtained 3 useful items: amulets of recall and both intervention (if I remember correctly some of them are rewards for quests). And then it strucked me - this is all you need for a little level boosting.Nobody in this thread has mentioned a very useful category of NPC's: trainers. Train any combination of skills for a total of 10 points and bingo - one level up!Only one problem - it costs money. So I set up a thingie I later named 'Balmora-Caldera Money Circle'. First thing to do is to steal full set of masters alchemy set from Caldera Mage's Guild (it's upstairs behind that sturdy door nearest to alchemist). Grab some ingradients from the table, too. Now next step - Caldera, Ghorak manor, second floor - set up mark at a spot where you can start dialogue with this Creeper critter (he's got lots of cash!). Next - almisivi intervention on self and 9 cases out of 10 you are back at Balmora temple. Trot over to Nalcarya's and stock up on all cheap-end ingradients your money can buy. Next - place for a laboratory. I set up mine in mage guild's basement right in front of my best friend Ajira. Now you are ready for the first round. Pick from menu mortal and pestle, click with it on image of your character and start producing potions. It's hard at the beginning because while you are low on alchemy skill you don't see what the ingradients are good for. So at first it's trial-and-error system. But you will improve this skill very fast just by doing what you are doing right now. OK - first carload of potions is ready for shipping. Cast recall and off you go to Creeper & sell them all. Now you can start making rounds and pile up a little school money. One more advice - try to make 'Fortify intelligence' (intelligence is governing attribute for alchemy skill) potions and use it shortly before potion making session - it will give you more expensive potions, more money every round. If your character is a fighter remember to add points to intelligence while gaining levels - this will fasten things up.Pile up some sweet amount of septims and then you can start training and levelling up at full swing.This system is working for me even now at level 36 (mostly it's recall from any corner of Vvardenenfel where you get you hands on a pile of loot you can't carry by yourself). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switch Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 just got a few things 2 add: with warrior characters ive found a great way to level armour/block skills is just to go to the arena storage in the arena canton in vivec. there's 2 rats there (if u open the door on the right that is, lock level 25, trapped) just let them wail on ya for a bit. dont worry if u get diseased, just cure urself at the end of training. also i suggest u make a decent healing item b4 u go 2 arena storage, they may be just rats but the damage will mount up. also make sure 2 have a full set of armour for the skill u want 2 train equipped, for instance, heavy armor, full set of steel, medium armor, full set of bonemold, light armor, full set of chitin etc also for money making, stealing stuff is a good way to make easy cash when ur starting out. just go 2 the second floor of houses and steal everything in sight, u shudnt get caught provided theres no NPCs on that floor. just make sure not 2 sell anything 2 a merchant when u've stolen from their home, they wont be happy about it. also any future items of that type u sell to them they'll claim is theirs also, so make sure 2 have 1 merchant (like ra'virr) who u never steal from so u can sell ur ill gotten goods to him. also, creeper has 5,000 gold, is easy to find and will buy items at full price (as mentioned in the last post) heres a list of the items he'll buy:Pottery, Cutlery, any common household items apart from sources of light like candles etcMagic (enchanted) items of any typeArmour & WeaponsPotions (including alcohol and outlawed substances like Skooma) just sell wot u cant sell 2 the creeper 2 the merchant u havent stolen from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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