flutok Posted May 3, 2014 Posted May 3, 2014 (edited) I get a black screen every time I try to enter the open world. I manged to get it to show the loading screen and even start the game a few times but it froze within 10 seconds. I think that worked because I disabled the official HighRes pack. Usually it just shows a black screen. If I try to start the game (I'm using alternate start) in an indoor cell it works most of the time. Can somebody look at my mod list and see if there is some obvious conflict. I'd rather avoid going mod by mod trying to figure out what's wrong. Also I sorted it with LOOT Skyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1Dawnguard.esm=1Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1HearthFires.esm=1Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1Dragonborn.esm=1Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1Falskaar.esm=1Wyrmstooth.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1moonpath.esm=1MagicDuel.esm=1ETaC - RESOURCES.esm=1Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp=1Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1StaticMeshImprovementMod-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp=1Weapons and Armor fixes.esp=1StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp=1Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1mintylightningmod.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp=1CoT-WeatherPatch.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-5.esp=1CoT-WeatherPatch_NL3.esp=1CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-40.esp=1EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=1ETaC - Complete.esp=1ELFX - Exteriors.esp=1ELFX - Dawnguard.esp=1ELFX - Dragonborn.esp=1Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp=1Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (PseudoVanilla).esp=1dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp=1Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp=1better_torches_brighter_torchlight.esp=1Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp=1Complete Crafting Overhaul - BS version.esp=1CollegeOfWinterholdGloryv.1.6.esp=1ArchmageTolfdir.esp=1Better Dynamic Snow.esp=1AOS.esp=1dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp=1AOS2_EBT Patch.esp=1ExpandedSnowSystems-CoT.esp=1CoT-WeatherPatch_ESS.esp=1HedgeKnight.esp=1Followers_StealthKills.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Cold.esp=1Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp=1Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Half Weight).esp=1AshRocks.esp=1iHUD.esp=1FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp=1DeadlySpellImpacts.esp=1DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp=1AOS_DSI Patch.esp=1Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-4.esp=1Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1ETaC - Complete ELFX Patch.esp=1SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB + FS + WT.esp=1MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp=1WetandCold.esp=1AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp=1WetandCold - Ashes.esp=1RBB Long and Row Boats - Lands.esp=1Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp=1UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp=1Traps Are Dangerous.esp=1AOS_TAD Patch.esp=1SkyFalls DB + FS Small Waterfalls.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp=1Helgen Reborn.esp=1Undeath.esp=1SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp=1BetterDarkBrotherhood.esp=1Dr_Bandolier.esp=1Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1AOS2_GDO Patch.esp=1Civil War Overhaul.esp=1DeadlyDragons.esp=1AOS_CWO Patch.esp=1RealShelter.esp=1Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp=1SkyrimSewers.esp=1ESFCompanions.esp=1Immersive Weapons.esp=1Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp=1Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp=1BFT Ships and Carriages - HF.esp=1Hebrock_Der Schatten von Meresis - EV.esp=1StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp=1SkyUI.esp=1Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.esp=1The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=1TimingIsEverything.esp=1Run For Your Lives.esp=1WetandCold - Holidays.esp=1Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1Stealth Skills Rebalanced_COMPLETE.esp=1Better Vampires.esp=1Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1StealthImmFixv1.esp=1AncientDBarmorTSedition.esp=1Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Reduced Weight).esp=1ETaC - Complete LoS Patch.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp=1SFO - Dragonborn.esp=1Cloaks.esp=1UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp=1TheChoiceIsYours.esp=1StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp=1Syerscote.esp=1moonpath_questdata.esp=1quest into the depths.esp=1ETaC - BFT Patch.esp=1Inigo.esp=1Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1BoatTravel.esp=1ELFX - Moonpath.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp=1RBB - BFT HF.esp=1Immersive Battles.esp=1MzarkWonders.esp=1armored-horses.esp=1Immersive Dragonborn.esp=1Boat Travel - Dragonborn.esp=1ETaC - Smelters.esp=1Immersive Travelers.esp=1FM - Namaofs Watchtower.esp=1Immersive Patrols.esp=1Immersive Mercenaries.esp=1The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1Immersive Dawnguard.esp=1Immersive Werewolves.esp=1Immersive Brigands.esp=1ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Cities - Falkreath.esp=1ETaC - Complete ImpREAL Patch.esp=1TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp=1ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp=1Immersive Factions.esp=1RBB - Row Boats - Hearthfire Hotfix.esp=1When Vampires Attack.esp=1Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1 Edited May 3, 2014 by flutok
Georgiegril Posted May 3, 2014 Posted May 3, 2014 It sounds like a GPU issue--maybe overheating, maybe a driver issue...hard to say without more information.Please provide your computer information(CPU, RAM, GPU, VRAM, driver version), graphics settings (in game and also anything you have altered in your graphics driver game profile or your skyrim.ini/prefs.ini). Finally, get and use the Skyrim Performance Monitor to collect data in game, and post that.
flutok Posted May 3, 2014 Author Posted May 3, 2014 (edited) It sounds like a GPU issue--maybe overheating, maybe a driver issue...hard to say without more information.Please provide your computer information(CPU, RAM, GPU, VRAM, driver version), graphics settings (in game and also anything you have altered in your graphics driver game profile or your skyrim.ini/prefs.ini). Finally, get and use the Skyrim Performance Monitor to collect data in game, and post that.Deleted the both .inis and let the launcher recreate them and it seems to have worked. Dumb that I didn't think of that. If you could look at them and see if there is anything wrong. I only made a few changes according to the Nvida tweak guide, something for project ENB and some grass/tree tweaks. SkyrimPrefs.iniSkyrim.ini(Left one is the original, right one the changed one.) Specs:GTX 760 (2 GB, 337.50, Ultra High Settings)i5 45708GB RAMBoth the GPU and CPU are less than a month old. Edited May 3, 2014 by flutok
Georgiegril Posted May 3, 2014 Posted May 3, 2014 The changes you made would have decreased the load on your GPU quite a lot.I strongly suggest you use the Skyrim Performance Monitor, or some other monitoring software to capture what is going on in your computer while playing. You may have been overheating, which can damage or kill your GPU. Especially if you are planning to try to push those settings back up.
flutok Posted May 4, 2014 Author Posted May 4, 2014 (edited) The changes you made would have decreased the load on your GPU quite a lot.I strongly suggest you use the Skyrim Performance Monitor, or some other monitoring software to capture what is going on in your computer while playing. You may have been overheating, which can damage or kill your GPU. Especially if you are planning to try to push those settings back up.Well I'm still having problems although now it's being stuck on the loading screen. It works if I don't change any ini settings, but I don't see why I shouldn't be able to increase them. Temps stay the same and during loading both the GPU and CPU usage is below 10%. Edited May 4, 2014 by flutok
Georgiegril Posted May 4, 2014 Posted May 4, 2014 Are you using the skyrim performance monitor? It can help you figure out what you can increase, and where the problems are.Off the bat, I'd say your biggest problem ismultisample=16 This controls your Antialiasing, which is very demanding. You can get better results visually with less demand on your system by disabling this in the game and forcing it on your card, using Nvidia Inspector instead. This guide may help you with that. As to the crash on load, that is usually a missing master or load order issue. If you replace mods list with your BOSS text file, enclosed in spoiler tags, I will take a look at it.
flutok Posted May 4, 2014 Author Posted May 4, 2014 Are you using the skyrim performance monitor? It can help you figure out what you can increase, and where the problems are.Off the bat, I'd say your biggest problem ismultisample=16 This controls your Antialiasing, which is very demanding. You can get better results visually with less demand on your system by disabling this in the game and forcing it on your card, using Nvidia Inspector instead. This guide may help you with that. As to the crash on load, that is usually a missing master or load order issue. If you replace mods list with your BOSS text file, enclosed in spoiler tags, I will take a look at it.Yes I'm using the monitor. That's how I got the percentages. And I don't crash. The game just keeps loading if I try to enter an exterior cell. If it's in the interior it works.
Georgiegril Posted May 4, 2014 Posted May 4, 2014 What exactly do you change to make that happen (you say it doesn't happen if you use the default .ini values...)
flutok Posted May 4, 2014 Author Posted May 4, 2014 (edited) What exactly do you change to make that happen (you say it doesn't happen if you use the default .ini values...)i think it was setting the ugrid to 9, dropped it to 7 and it seems to work. But now I have the problem where the game will suddenly crash (no error message) within a few minutes of starting (again doesn't happen with standard settings). I think that's also cause by the grid loading option. I don't why, my computer should be able to handle at least 7. I mostly changed the draw distances, number of decals, water quality, cheked the 'threaded' boxes etc. Edited May 4, 2014 by flutok
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