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This is an odd sort of thread.

In it, we can discuss the sorts of things we need and want in mods instead of discussing new epic mods we want to see.

What do I mean?

Well, there are oodles of threads here from people requesting that a team gets assembled to bring some epic new storyline of the week to life.

There are also threads complaining that there doesn't seem to be much modding going on lately.

I personally think that the two are related, but that's yet another thread.

 

What I'm proposing here is that we discuss the little mods or features that we want to see. Maybe someone can make these little things, and maybe this thread can survive awhile and not get lost in the shuffle the way individual threads about the little things usually do. With any luck, we might get better results or at least see some of these things wind up in the bigger mods.

 

Don't post ideas here about some big new epic questline. Those go in their own threads as usual. Instead, make this a thread for all those "... wouldn't it be great if there was a better way to...' and ".. how come there's no_____..." and "...what if?" type stuff. It would also be great if it wasn't too vague, like "how about some new armor?" or too specific like "How about some headgear like that rogue trader wore in episode 23 of that obscure anime show that nobody watches?" Instead, simpler things with broader appeal like "How about some easier-to-read signposts?" or "can somebody make a frog garden statue that spits water out of it's mouth?" or "I sure wish there was a spell that..." might be better for this thread.

 

We can also discuss how certain things might be accomplished. For example, if someone asks, "is there a way to make a goblin talk?" we can try to figure it out amongst ourselves. I for one think it would be very cool to have a talking goblin mod or modder's resource for use in all sorts of mods, like something to do with Goblin Jim's cave, for example. Discussions like these might open the door to all sorts of discoveries and new mods we never dreamed possible. I can recall one such discussion a couple of years ago which led to the creation of the first oblivion fishtank!

 

Yes, this whole section of requested mods is supposed to do all of this, but it doesn't do it as well as it should sometimes, does it? I don't know if this thread would help much at all with that, but maybe it's worth a shot. Or not. I dunno. I just think that maybe by stuffing a lot of little things in one very active thread, that thread won't disappear like most in just a few days, and maybe we'll see some fun stuff happen when more of the right people get a chance to notice it.

 

Okay, I'll start. First of all, I'm a lame wannabee modder who barely knows his way around half the CS, and about all I've been able to do so far is make stupid little cheat mods. It's cute, I suppose, but I'd like to learn more, even if all I ever wind up doing is making much better cheat mods. LOL! I stand in awe of the real modders here who routinely crank out some truly amazing works. maybe some of them will take pity on me and lend their aid to these:

 

-- I have no trouble making new, stronger Sigil Stones, but one thing I've never been able to figure out is how to increase the power of soulgems. A buddy of mine once made me a quick little mod in under ten minutes which made humanoid souls trapped in black gems worth a whole lot more points than normal. Does anyone know how to DO that? I can't find it anywhere in the CS.

-- You know those historic marker signs you see around the countryside? I think it would be cool to have some signs like those scattered around Cyrodiil, marking the spots of interesting things which happened, with text either readable directly or at least in a pop-up window like any other book. For example, a nice sign at the Temple of the One could be made to appear, after the main quest was finished, ( another thing I wonder how to do ) which explains the battle between martin (as Akatosh's avatar) and Mehrunes Dagon. I can make the text no problem, and place the signs, but I don't know how to make the signs. Can somebody make a resource for these?

-- Speaking of making things appear at different stages, how could we make a mod that lets Cropsford continue to grow over time until it became about the size of Blankenmarch, complete with lots of little crop plots? ( and yet another player home, maybe? )

 

I guess I'll stop there, but I will ask one last thing, and it's a doozy:

 

A lot of players can't patch their games or download all the latest must-have supermods, and as such they very often find themselves unable to use a lot of really great mods they find which depend on these other things. One thing that I would really love to see are more mods that vanilla players ( no OOO, FCOM, or even Shivering isles ) can use and enjoy.

Thanks!

 

Okay, your turn! What actually DOABLE things would you like to see that won't require six months and a 30 man team to make?

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What I'd like to see ...

 

- Interesting NPC dialogue and character development.

- More dialogue choices.

- Actions have consequences.

- Dodgy doings and dirty deeds*. ;)

 

* Seriously, you can't say that the intriguing (sickening?) conversation with Falanu Hlaalu doesn't have some potential.

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Here's one: It isn't too much fun when using bare fists to fight....what if there were several glove types to "dress" our characters with? Of course, some of them enchanted.

 

Good idea. I've also always thought that the beast races should have natural bonuses when fighting hand to hand (or claw to claw, fang to fang ;-).

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A lot of players can't patch their games or download all the latest must-have supermods, and as such they very often find themselves unable to use a lot of really great mods they find which depend on these other things.

Everybody can patch their games and download the latest must-have supermods, that's why modders mod them out, so you can play them. You guys should use more the search function, almost everything you requested here has been already done.

 

Stronger Soul Gems.

Empty Road Sign.

Choices and Consequences.

Enhanced Quest Roleplaying.

Roleplaying Dialogues.

 

Besides this, this topic's idea it's good, or it would be good IMO (or better) if it would point in a specific direction, like grouping requests for roleplaying mods, or armour mods, etc.

 

grmblf

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Actually, no, not everybody can make these upgrades. I'm one of them. If I had a broadband connection I maybe could, but my 56k dialup simply makes it impossible.

This is exactly what I mean. So many people seem to forget that a lot of us still don't have access to the good stuff.

Thanks for these links, though! They're very nice.

Still, if anyone knows how to alter the soulgems, that would be great. Give a man a fish vs teach him to fish, you know?

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Actually, no, not everybody can make these upgrades. I'm one of them. If I had a broadband connection I maybe could, but my 56k dialup simply makes it impossible.

 

And I can download the stuff, but if it involves high-textures, lots of NPCs or requires high-resolution screen settings then I just won't be able to play it. (I'm at 800 x 600 here)

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Still, if anyone knows how to alter the soulgems, that would be great. Give a man a fish vs teach him to fish, you know?

Hey, don't go off-topic, that wasn't your original request. In fact, to answer to your question I'd say that it seems that what we really NEED are better connections and better machines, because the community has done almost everything else. :D

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