Tired Of Seeing Idiotic Reviews From Players With Bad Pcs

[imahoot]

I love the game, but I didn't buy it having the massive expectations some people had.

Just because they don't like the game doesn't mean that they necessarily have bad systems, it's an opinion. But I do feel that the minimum/recommended specs are a little low, as a minimum spec pc can't even play the game.

 

Unfortunately, this is almost always the result of voicing your opinion on the intarweb.

*le sigh*

[kcgirlgeek]

I did not say the game was a TEN! Good GOD....do you all really read what people type? Just forget it and drop it, we all agree to not agree, fine not a problem. I rate the game a strong 8 - 9....disagree, agree....I don't care. I'm tired of arguing about it and I'm sure you all are too.

 

I said I had never rated a game a 10 except maybe Planescape Torment many years ago. I STILL think that Oblivion is a masterpiece (not necessarily in every individual area of the game, but as an overall accomplishment, and I don't care if you don't agree). YES, you are entitled to your opinion and I, to mine.

 

I'm done posting about this, as I'm constantly accused of saying things I didn't say anyway. I won't post anymore on the subject. That should be a relief to all of you, I'm sure. LOL!!!

[Arienne the Silent]

I did not say the game was a TEN! Good GOD....do you all really read what people type? Just forget it and drop it, we all agree to not agree, fine not a problem. I rate the game a strong 8 - 9....disagree, agree....I don't care. I'm tired of arguing about it and I'm sure you all are too.

 

I said I had never rated a game a 10 except maybe Planescape Torment many years ago. I STILL think that Oblivion is a masterpiece (not necessarily in every individual area of the game, but as an overall accomplishment, and I don't care if you don't agree). YES, you are entitled to your opinion and I, to mine.

 

I'm done posting about this, as I'm constantly accused of saying things I didn't say anyway. I won't post anymore on the subject. That should be a relief to all of you, I'm sure. LOL!!!

I think all fans of the Elder Scrolls series agree that Oblivion is an incredible game. It isn't perfect, but what is? Also, there is no way to push the envelope with sound and graphics without demanding that people also upgrade their systems. Those who complain about this need to decide whether they want to move forward or be stagnant.

[Peregrine]

I think all fans of the Elder Scrolls series agree that Oblivion is an incredible game.

 

No we don't. I think Oblivion is a mediocre dumbed-down console rpg that gives you pretty pictures, but all the story and character depth of a puddle. But it does have the potential to be an incredible game, depending on what the community does with it.

 

It isn't perfect, but what is? Also, there is no way to push the envelope with sound and graphics without demanding that people also upgrade their systems. Those who complain about this need to decide whether they want to move forward or be stagnant.

 

Yes there is. A major factor in Oblivion's high system demands is the huge view distance and distant landscapes. But the problem is, Oblivion doesn't push the envelope in this area. Far Cry did the same massive view range, but with much lower demands. Guild Wars had better landscape quality, and vastly lower hardware demands. Oblivion's most impressive accomplishments, the massive increase in character/item/etc detail, are actually pretty light on the hardware demands... it's the long outside views that really kill FPS.

 

And not only that, but they've pushed the envelope too far in a lot of places. The glossy materials are awful, and applied in way too many places. The specular bloom on everything is massive overkill. The effects in general are way too overdone. Bethesda's artists need a few lessons in realism, these things are supposed to be subtle, not set to absurd levels to make sure the console morons are aware that yes, their xbox is actually using normal maps.

 

And finally, they don't even push it where they should. Metal doesn't look like metal, even though something like Morrowind's water reflections could give it the glossy effect with very little trouble. The ground textures are awful... sure, you can see a huge distance, but you don't want to, because it looks so bad in the distance. Baked lighting effects are old news, and can produce amazing realism in static lighting (leaving the engine itself to do the dynamic lights... on the character, on weapons, etc), but Oblivion doesn't seem to use it. The lighting effects are pathetic and completely unrealistic.

 

Had enough yet?

[Qasid]

Boo.. new here, bah never mind I guess.

 

First of all, Peregrine's got a few points. I am a software developer and, from my point of view, this game was designed rather for an XBox 360, kinda forgetting the millions of gamers who like me love PCs cos we can use mods in it [correct me if I'm wrong, but you can't use mods in the console can you?].

 

I also agree, Far Cry or Guild Wars got much better results with less hardware. For example, the readme states the game will run with an Nvidia FX. Cool, I had an envidia FX. 5200 128 Mb - wonderful for absoltely all games I had played up to date. Didn't get beyond an average of 6 or 7 fps , with that FX5200, 1gb Ram and a P4 2,8MHz. Got tired, bought a 6600GT. Now it runs fine, but still, I am most disappointed with the graphical engine, now the guys at Bethesda should get some lessons from the guys who made Guld Wars, I believe.

 

Next critical thing, self-shadowing is amazingly.... crappy. don't know y'all, but I eventually disabled shadowing because every single character looked damn weird, like having a brown beard, even women :-S

 

As counterpart, without shadowing all look shiny and greasy. Even horses shine. Rock shines! Extra-glossy game.

 

If it's about complaining as well... What about the it takes for an enemy to fall dead on the floow once it's been hit by a fireball... I've tested it, the fps are normal, but it takes up to 3 seconds to return to the floor. Reminds me of Matrix =)

 

Things I miss or I haven't got or was expecting? Anyone remember how in Morrowing you'd roll the mouse wheel and change weapons? Or how it was extremely easy to find more quests? And how do merchants know you've stolen the things you wanna sell? Huh? Are they omniscient or what? That's kinda surreal. Uh, and I dislike the amount of grass there is everywhere. And sure, it's cool to see the winds dancing to the wind, but that's actually an fps-killer, and causes that it takes ages to load out-of-cities landscapes. Because after all, do you stop to watch how beautiful the trees are while dancing to the wind? I don't... And finally, tell me if it doesn't happen to you, but about half the characters don't have speech, and worsely, when they don't have speech, the subtitles change too fast to read them.

 

Things I love in this new game? The overall detail is gorgeous. The lockpick sys gives you a chance even if you're neglected with lockpics. Spell casting doesn't fail systematically when your magical skill is under 50. I love the whole AI [would be better if the actors wouldn't repeat themselves all the time] and generally the world seems to be alive. Uh and there are no flying monsters anymore which attack you while you travel, even though you neither get to travel much after the first time you get somewhere. I love the horses, but I miss not being able to fight while riding one.

 

And I think that's all. Yes, there is so much to critisize, still I give it a 6 which I'm sure with some patches can get to a 7.5 - or if I can ever buy a $1500 comp, then I'm sure I'll give it a 10 too lol.

 

But, as someone who makes a living off making software for people who complain as much we do here, I say: if you think it is awful, go do it better yourself, if you can. =)

[Marxist ßastard]

Things I love in this new game? The lockpick sys gives you a chance even if you're neglected with lockpics. Spell casting doesn't fail systematically when your magical skill is under 50.

 

...I'm sure I'll give it a 10 too lol.

So there you have it. The guy who doesn't like RPGs loves Oblivion.

 

Oblivion has succeeded in what was attempted by Dungeon Siege.

[FastRedPonyCar]

I actually really am liking the game and what it brings to the table. There are numerous ini tweaks that can take care of a lot of these nit picky problems. I know I know. You shouldn't HAVE to edit the ini file and I guess the xbox guys are screwed in that aspect but I for one and glad the engine offers this ease of flexiablity and amount of tweaking.

 

I've lowered the amount of "shininess" on surfaces so it's very little and much more real looking. I also lowered the amount of grass in the world. I wouldn't say my system is a slouch (3.2 ghz P4 + 6800ultra) but I'm still running the game at 1024 resolution with self and grass shadows turned off and medium appearing distance for stuff and far view distance turned on.

 

Frame rate is acceptable with 20 outside average and about 50 inside. And about 15 or mabey lower if I'm fighting multiple enemies outdoors in the grass or forest. I also turned off HDR and turned bloom on. HDR gives too much of the effect and detracts from the realisim and makes it too overly poofy light looking and less fake glowing glare from objects. Bloom is 10X better + you get AA.

 

I think that the developers tried a little too hard in some of the effects departments. HDR can be cool if done properly. Like the lost coast demo. Oh man, it was PERFECTLY done in that. The experimental HDR in Far cry though, that was rediculous looking. Same with serious sam 2 though but it worked in that game because the environment was specifiically made to have a cartoonish feel so the bloomy over done colors felt right.

 

I do think that this has some bearing on the game play becuase, just for fun, I cranked everything to the max and changed the ugrid load value to 11 from 5 and it was SOOO much better and more real feeling.

 

I've seen a guy play guild wars on a high end machien and it ran nice and smooth but didn't have the "real" feeling that obvlivion has. It was too cartoonish in my opinion. Sure it drew long distances but they were dull and lifeless. Just bare mountains unlike oblivion which throws forests and tall waving grass and rocks onto moutnain sides instead of dirty green and brown splotches of color.

 

Unfortunately though, right now, that's how my mountains and distant views look since I can't turn the forest draw distance past half way without a big performance hit. Others with the high end cards can and after seeign before and after, I can see how it would be more immersive to be in a better drawn world.

 

Minor gripes aside, the gameplay is phenomenal. The combat system is superb. I love the idea now that melee combat is no longer mindless clicking of the mouse for non stopped weapon swinging. There's a certain strategy that has to be employed (at least fighting skilled humaniod characters) if you want to live. Getting knocked back and thrown off balance is really real feeling and the blurred vision when taking damage is also very nicely done.

 

My criticisms for the game are not drawn from what I think the game should be more like in reference to other games or crashes (which I've not dealt with yet). I really don't have that many. No major gripes that's for sure. My sytem barely meets Bethesda's minimum requirements and therefore, I installed the game expecting minimal results but was rewarded with much more I think but definatley not NEAR the max that I've seen from other's screenshots and from what I saw on my machine when I maxed everything out. It was a breathtaking difference.

 

I'm also not being critical of the game because of what it lacks because I know that if something needs to be added, the community will take care of it like they've already taken care of countless other small things.

 

Ok I'm done.

[Castor Pollux]

To start off this is the first Elder Scrolls game I play so I didn't have the huge expectations and all. I was realy looking forward to it though and it's launch was realy hyped, with reason of course :)

I haven't regret a single second that I bought the game and for me it's game of the year or even last couple of years. And all this despite that I'm not realy into adventure/RPG's

 

The game runs pretty smooth on low settings on a medium to low ranged rig. And you can get loads of result with some tweaking. If you reach the recommended requirements I think it should run very smoothly.

I got a geforce 7800GTX and 2gig of ram and the game runs perfectly on semi-high settings. Gonna do some more tweaking in the weekend.

I've seen some freaky stuff happen, but sometimes it just cracked me up :) it's pretty normal for such a huge intens game that it has some buggs. And with upcomming patches much should be solved.

 

Point is, why should you worry about what other people write about it?!

It's the top selling game all around the world and gets nothing but good reviews. If some disgrunted people are givin git a 1 becuz they're pc can't handle it, just let them make a fool out of themselves.

[Killians5]

I think what he's trying to say is if you rate the game without being at all biased there is no way to rate it a 1.0 out of 10 which i would have to agree. At the same time I don't think its a 10 (I was actually a little more into morrowind)

[Ryuker]

THe crashes to desktop might partially account for it. I've probaly gotten over 40+ so far....even before and after I started to use mods(so it's not a conflict issue from mods). They happen at least once or twice every hour.... >:(

 

Also, I don't know about you guys, but my game runs fine on high with a x800 pro, however, when I first got the game, the sewers and outside areas were some of the slowest, laggiest game play ever.....I actually shelved oblivion, waiting for a patch to come out to fix the game...for over 3-4 weeks.....later tried it again, and it works great now even with mods that increased texture size and other gameplay moddifiers.

 

If I was to rate oblivion from the first few hours I got it, I've give it a 4 until Bethseda released a patch that made it playable.