LeTellier Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Sorry to enter the debate, but if you remenber Duncan and his right of conscription, you will notice that Nobles are usually recruited amongst Grey Warden with care because they are influent characters with powerfull allies.To fight the Blight or any darkspawn left, being the Teyrn of Highever will allow you to build you own armed forces and getting other allies to lend you a hand. Being a commoner, you might have to "beg" your way out for support if you want to chase the darkspawns. Receiving Titles and sticking to your nobility buisness is a personal matter witch I found justify, and for myself I will say that being a Grey Warden is about having 2 nationalities, you are bound to them and to who you were beforehand. Combining both seems to be the most helpful way of defeating the Blight. That is my humble opinion, but as a Frenchman It was really weird to hear the Orlesians speaking like me and being the bad guys, Hope anyway that Bioware is planning to developp a bit more about Orlais ! Because not only England has a rich and colorfoul medieval past ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormwind32 Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 Oh if I was french I would probably be angry with the portrayal of Orlesians as well. In addition, notice how Andraste, who is such a blatant copy of Jeanne d'Arc, was said to be from Ferelden and not Orlais! I would love to see a future game in the DA universe where you are a Chevalier as opposed to a Warden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarya Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Orlesians are not bad guys, what are you talking about? o_O That's just Loghain's personal opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeTellier Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Well let's say that they are quite despised in Ferelden at least for occupying them, and also for killing Andraste and the way they treated Lelianna. Jesus torturing a poor girl !I totally agree with you Stormwind, I am quite offended to see my historical past being a bit "Raped" on that one. But I haven't said my last word, I am planning with another french mate to create a mod focus on Orlais and the envoy of a hundred Chevalier to help finishing the remaining darkspanw in Felreden. I will post an introduction script soon and as I am just a scenarist and I don't know how to mod properly I will ask for help and maybe recruit a team of willing people to help me building this mode. My honor of Frenchman is at stake and I will show Bioware not to mess with the French :) In witch section do you reckon I could post that ? And you think some people might be interested ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormwind32 Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 Well let's say that they are quite despised in Ferelden at least for occupying them, and also for killing Andraste and the way they treated Lelianna. Jesus torturing a poor girl ! Well I understand why they would be despised in Ferelden and I can take that. But in the game I am pretty sure that they say that the Tevinters burned Andraste, not the Orlesians. What I would consider to be unreasonable is them casting Andraste as a native of Ferelden, and the Orlesian woman in the marketplace who tells you she had to flee because she was going to be raped by a Chevalier. Those two things cast an excessive anti-Orlesian picture. Having Andraste from Orlais would fit in with the Jeanne d'Arc clone they created, and would be more appropriate. Also having the woman in the Market cast a less bleak tale would have balanced the harsh portrayal of Orlesians in the game. The French Empire did a lot of horrible things no doubt, but in the game Orlais is all negative. It could have also been fixed by not making the Orlesians so blatantly french. As far as I know, there are only 3 Orlesian characters in the game, two of them are repulsive (Isolde and Marjoline), and the third is the Chevalier victim. Not one of them redeems Orlais in a single way. As for Leliana being tortured, I don't think that is a big deal, most countries do take a negative view of treason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeTellier Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 well I think you are right, Tevinter did the burning. But why in hell are the orlesians so arrogant ? I wonder... :)You didn't answer about the mod idea though :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormwind32 Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 Its a good idea. And lets admit it, DA is an amazing game and I think any mod that adds significant content would be well received. As to where it would be discussed, thats in the Mod section under 'Mod Requests' or 'General Talk'. I have seen one or two extra campaign mods out there, though nothing with voice acting. Would be nice to have that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeTellier Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Ok Cheers for everything, but for voice acting, you need quite a decent microphone and some other stuff for recording, not an easy task ! Even if I and my mate can provide Proper Orlesian accents, that will be hard to do !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGBlank Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 and the way they treated Lelianna.A trained spy accused of selling national secrets to other nations. As far as I know, there are only 3 Orlesian characters in the game, two of them are repulsive (Isolde and Marjoline), and the third is the Chevalier victim. Not one of them redeems Orlais in a single way. You're missing:- Leliana (granted, she's ferelden, but grew in Orlais) who gives a good-sided portrayal of Orlais and talks fondly of the noble lady who took her in.- Riodan the warden, aka magical french soldier dude. You know, the one that chokes the guard and jumps from the top of a tower and cleaves the archdemon's wing. He also mentioned that the army Logain so feared was composed entirely of grey wardens (which would mean there'd be no Orlesian interests involved in such aid).- The queen's maid.. ok, i got nothing here, she's barely support cast. Why in hell are the orlesians so arrogant ? I wonder... :)They're the home of the non-Tervinter branch of the chantry and the circle of magi, and are, by all accounts, a very rich and powerful empire on their own right.On the other hand, Ferelden is, by foreign view, one bad day of reverting to barbarism. It also smells like wet dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormwind32 Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 - Leliana talks about frivolous stuff like fashion and crap. Maybe you could count the tale of Aveline, but thats a pretty sad story. The noble lady who took her in was pretty nice, I'll give you that. - Riordan is not from Orlais. When you talk to him he says that he was sent to investigate because he was a native Fereldan. - About Ferelden smelling like wet dog...I thought it was only Marjoline that said that, but I had a conversation with Sten today and he said the same thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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