L33Nexus Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 I just made this as a kind of like title image for the mod it just came out Perfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brasher Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 I do not understand the title of this mod. "Takes the Fifth." This is highly anachronistic. There is no Constitution of the United States of America with a Bill of Rights in the medieval fantasy world of Oblivion. There isn't even a Magna Carta. The Cyrodiilac Empire is a monarchy. The phrase "take the fifth" means that an American exercises his or her rights under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution of the United States. He or she is protected from self-incrimination. When on trial, he or she does not have to take the stand to testify against him or herself. Is "the Fifth" some sort of double-meaning or play on words? A fifth of a gallon of sujamma or Cyrodiilac Brandy? A fifth column? Is the Blackadder house and estate named "The Fifth?" Sorry to be obnoxious, but I keep seeing your signature everywhere, and every time I see it I am like , "What the heck!?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L33Nexus Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Well if you read the first page about the mod you might get a bit more of an Idea. the title black adder takes the fifth is a cleverly thought name by Kieran Foy. Black Adder is a British comedy series and they usually went like BlackAdder goes forth (4th series)now Kieran has cleverly named his mod Idea Black Adder Takes The Fifth See what i mean :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zprospero Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 The main quest idea is that you, as a Blackadder, are put on trial for all your family's crimes by the Nine. Yes, it's not very lore-friendly, but this is a comedy, so certain liberties must be taken. After all, thisis supposed to have happened after the fourth season, in which there were guns and tanks. I'm afraidwe'll have to ask players for a little extra suspension of disbelief here. Really, the title is very versatile. It has many meanings, and you can choose which you likebest. Basically, it's because it's (like) the fifth season and you are 'on trial.' We might actuallywork in the number 5 in places to justify it further, if Kieran likes the idea. I'm very glad to here that we're getting good exposure. EDIT: Woohoo! 500th post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L33Nexus Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Change that title MO FO! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieranfoy Posted February 5, 2010 Author Share Posted February 5, 2010 *long obnoxious post* Yes, it's anachronistic. The mod is a comedy. It's not meant to be taken seriously, and you need aproximately a metric *bleep*ton of chill pills (or a good solid dose of British humor) if you actually try to take it so. We didn't exactly tag this a lore-friendly, so it's not supposed to be. Besides which, a Google search or a decent knowledge of the series would tell you that there are four seasons of Blackadder: The Black Adder, Blackadder II, Blackadder the Third, and Blackadder Goes Forth. Thus, Blackadder Takes the Fifth is both a continuation of this naming tradition, an amusing pun, and a reference to the plot of the mod, which involves a trial. Now, this may annoy the absurdly lore-obsessed amongst us; but as famous lore-hound Zprospero seems to be able to handle it, the fact that it bugs you might just be a clue that you're taking Oblivion too seriously. Even Bethesda produced games riddled with Easter Eggs and references, and as a bunch of modders, we have even more freedom to do so. And, finally, my apologies if I seem cheesed off (cheese for everyone!) by the fact that you walked onto the set of my 'magnificent octopus' and started whinging about the title and going into a geek-rant, but... I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zprospero Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 Now, don't take offense, Kieran. David happens to be an expert playtester, and a devoted role player. He playtested myROO mod. I don't think he was expressing disdain, but rather just wanted to know whatthe inspiration was for the name. As this is a comedy tribute, it is unlikely to fit the tastesof those who prefer to stay perfectly immersed in the world. I understand how you might take offense at what David said, but there are many peoplewho are so deeply concerned with immersion that they won't indulge in a mod like ours. However, we have more enough of an audience that will indulge that this is not somethingwe need to concern ourselves with, as those that don't want it won't look for it. We will havemore than enough people who will appreciate this mod. Back on topic. Now, when you're arrested the holding cell you get transported to is in that cave off to the side in Aetherius, yes? I've gotten the priest to barge in and give the arresting speech, but I don't know for certain where to send the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieranfoy Posted February 5, 2010 Author Share Posted February 5, 2010 Now, don't take offense, Kieran. Back on topic. Now, when you're arrested the holding cell you get transported to is in that cave off to the side in Aetherius, yes?I frankly don't care who he is or what he's done; if he's a lore freak, he can stay away and not whinge at us. It's his presumption that we have to drop everything and explain to his satisfaction why we dared use such a title that gets my goat; it was more than a simple question, it was a. And, getting back on topic, yeah, the caves were what I was thinking of as a hlding cell, but only because I couldn't think of a proper prison. If you want, one of us can design a proper prison with cells and all, or something even more sadistic. Really, I defer to your judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zprospero Posted February 5, 2010 Share Posted February 5, 2010 All right, I'll extend the caverns a bit. Maybe I'll use something like the mine with the Ogres from the Malacath quest? Then I'll add a 'special' room that's goes down very far and is clearly a bad place to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieranfoy Posted February 5, 2010 Author Share Posted February 5, 2010 I never actually played the Malacath quest, but it sounds awesome. Maybe evil souls are cast into the pit to be melted, and forged into the weapons of the servants of the Nine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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