And So It Begins...

[morpheous316]

No I wouldn't be. I happily paid the $5-10 for the Neverwinter Nights official mods, because they added substantial content that was clearly different from the basic game. $5 for a separate storyline is very different from $2 for a feature that should've been in the game already.

 

 

I really doubt that. Think about it.. If they had 2 weeks after the release of the game released an entire new town, or a new faction with a whole slew of new quests. You would be sitting here right now saying that this soon after the release of the game it means it had been completed before release. Your upset because they didnt just include them in the game. But when you design something with the SOLE idea of making a plugin later.. So you HAD some plug in material after the release when you wouldnt be able to author new ones you dont just randomly say "Oh this should just ship with the game!". If the plugin was reserved from the START of its creation as a plugin and not as shipped content, there is absolutly no reason to change the plans for that. You make my point for me, it was such a small matter it was probably put aside and mostly forgotten. Had it been something major like a faction, a town or a series of quests. Then maybe they would have reconsidered thinking "Well the game needs more quests." This was not the case. I really dont see how it matters one way or another. I spent the 2 bucks, and I dont feel bad about my purchase one little bit. You will most likly get your substantial content here in a month or so. The Oratory plugin looks like it might be a small-medium series of quests in order to restore it.

[Peregrine]

the first thing i need to say is if a modder could get paid for the long hours spent on a something that is not even worth it would he? i see it this way the $2 is just paying for the coffie that the gut who made the thing has most likely downed

 

But remember, that's $2 per download. In a couple hours, the pirated version someone posted here hit over 400 downloads. So there's a pretty significant audience for these things, and they're doing better than just "paying for coffee".

 

I really doubt that. Think about it.. If they had 2 weeks after the release of the game released an entire new town, or a new faction with a whole slew of new quests. You would be sitting here right now saying that this soon after the release of the game it means it had been completed before release.

 

Probably, just because of how quickly it was rushed out. But if there was some substantial content in that download, I'd see it a lot differently.

Your upset because they didnt just include them in the game. But when you design something with the SOLE idea of making a plugin later.. So you HAD some plug in material after the release when you wouldnt be able to author new ones you dont just randomly say "Oh this should just ship with the game!". If the plugin was reserved from the START of its creation as a plugin and not as shipped content, there is absolutly no reason to change the plans for that.

 

That's exactly my point. Horse armor is a common-sense thing that should've been included in the game. But months ago, they said they're keeping it as a plugin thing. They intentionally pulled out a feature with the intent of selling it later. This is greed, pure and simple.

[morpheous316]

That's exactly my point. Horse armor is a common-sense thing that should've been included in the game. But months ago, they said they're keeping it as a plugin thing. They intentionally pulled out a feature with the intent of selling it later. This is greed, pure and simple.

 

 

LOL, Well I dont suppose there is any point in argueing. I doubt I could get you to change your mind, since we are both obviously set in our oppinions. I just hope that a few months from now the plugins add more then just horse armor and what not. I certainly wont wanna keep paying 2 dollars for pointless little more or less decorative features. But for now I see the reasoning behind it, Personally Id rather get an expansion pack. :)

 

I was hoping the first plugin would have made a quest line where you rebuilt Kvatch, and become the Count or Countess. It really seems as though Kvatch had been under utilized, and I had thought that maybe they had saved it for a plugin.. Though that ended up being horse armor lol.

[runicNomad]

Hey hey,

 

Well this ends up being quite a bummer, just because this is the scheme they are putting down as of right now to pull in revenue and if it succeeds it will encourage this type of activity further and it does not less work will be done on future additions. All around a bad idea since there are a great number of features left out of the game as is for those of playing this on the PC. As in the entire interface and feel of it was geared to console and nothing has still been done about that besides from the community of which I am greatly appreciative of.

 

 

Bravo to the modders who toil for hours and share their work so we can enjoy the game more.

 

 

I think as time goes on if we just gain a loose method of organization as far as community mods regarding compatibility we will slowly no longer need these big publishers and instead of bookmarking the official site for patches and updates we can just bookmark the community site and say to hell with marketing schemes intentionally downgrading products to later on release the "full version" or "updated version" or "new and improved version" yada yada and so forth.

 

Right now between hardware and software the industry is so transparent with this basic approach.

 

 

I can tell you though it usually never has a damn thing to do with developers or the game makers themselves. Almost any creator does it for the love. It is when it is yielded to our wonderful cousins in the $$ game that it becomes convoluted. I wish as I am sure many do we could bypass these men and women altogether. Going to take a large movement for this and not just complaints about whether it is bull ****.

 

peace out ya all,

runicNomad

[Humblie]

Hmmmm... well i didn't get into the morrowind community until late but when i did i was amazed at the sheer size of some of the plugins people where making for the game, some people where making plugins from scratch meshes and everything and what amazed even more was the fact that they didn't want any money for it after all that, but moders made plugins like that coz they wanted other people to enjoy what they have created and only asked for credit for it if it was re-used...

 

The fact that bethesda has decided to charge makes sense but enoyed becuase the fact that they held the content from the game itself when creating it. i would just like to point out that the cheapest charge on file planet is $3.33 a month to download what i want... hmmm i always thought that that was a ripoff making me pay a month to download morroiwnd plugins but looking at the price of a single plugin on bethesdas site... id probably sign up.

 

And besides how often does your horse get killed and do you really wanna make it look pretty, theres plenty of houses to buy in the game and plenty to download for free, and im not sure what the other one is but im not a mage so i dont care.

[Stampede]

I have been a member of fileplanet for years and have never paid a cent. I can download whatever I want. Who says you have to pay them? Don't believe their crap.

[Humblie]

Hmmmmm.... the payment might be new but everytime i go to subscribe it comes up with billing options.

 

http://www.fileplanet.com/subscribe/subscribe.shtml

 

I am aloowed to post that right. slightly new see and have only read the rules once. :blush:

[Stampede]

No it's fine you can put that up there.

 

All you have to do is register your account then click on the file you want and wait for the free public servers to appear. Though it seems the wait time on some of the new files are pretty long.

 

I don't mind that Fileplanet is charging customers for good servers, I think it's fair. But they should not be sods and make out like there is no other choice. That's just really lame.

[axewater]

Well .. there are plenty of new (free) mods made by the community already. There's even one called 'Weather Wizard' which has voice acting for its dialog... Bethesda is slow with their paid stuff. I think they're out partying too much (I'd probably be doing the same)

 

Oblivion mod site

[Visbontavon]

If I could have paid a couple trivial amounts of $2 here and there to keep Looking Glass Studios afloat, or one of the million other great game companies that have died I would do it in a heart beat. Excellant Job, Bestheda, making a better business model. After all, next year's madden still costs $50 just like oblivion and probably cost about $2 million, if that to make. Oblivion probably budgeted anywhere from 15-25 million.

 

Nobody's making you pay it.