JordanJ Posted June 11, 2014 Posted June 11, 2014 I was able to play Skyrim normally until now, with only a CTD or freeze every couple of hours. Now I'm getting CTDs on startup, as soon as I hit the dragon logo. I've already done BOSS sorting and TES5Edit cleaning. I'm not sure what the problem is. Please help. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Falskaar.esm Wyrmstooth.esp ClimatesOfTamriel.esm JSwords.esm Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm SkyMoMod.esm SPIKE.esm Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Chesko_Frostfall.esp Better Dynamic Snow.esp Morning Fogs.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp BirdsHFclean.esp Bring Out Your Dead.esp Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Dual Sheath Redux.esp fine goods from morrowind.esp Hunterborn.esp Hunterborn_Dawnguard-Patch.esp Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp Immersive Patrols Merged All.esp Lanterns Of Skyrim - CoT Nights lvl 8.esp Point The Way.esp Real Wildlife Skyrim 0.1.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp WetandCold.esp WetandCold - Ashes.esp Destructible_bottles.esp Character Creation Overhaul.esp JSwords_Load_Screens.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp Player Size Adjuster.esp SkyUI.esp TakeNotes.esp BosmerArmorMATY743.esp BoundArmors.esp Cloaks.esp DaedricCrossbow.esp DK_Armor_By_Hothtrooper44.esp FS_UltimateAssortment.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Immersive Weapons.esp imperialrobes.esp Insanity's Daedric Sword.esp Insanity's Glass Bow.esp Insanity's Glass Sword.esp Insanity's Goldbrand.esp Insanity's Steel Shortsword.esp Insanity's Umbra Sword.esp isilNarsil.esp JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp konahrik_accoutrements.esp konahrik_accoutrements_db.esp Krev The Skinner's Mantle by Hothtrooper44.esp LeftHandRings.esp LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp Longbows&Crossbows.esp Longbows.esp LongbowsLOTRpatch.esp LongbowsIWpatch.esp LongbowsDG.esp LongbowsDB.esp LongbowFS.esp stormcloakrobes.esp StormLord.esp Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp Unique Uniques.esp Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp Lock Overhaul.esp DeadlyDragons.esp DeadlyMonsters.esp AesirArmor.esp CastleVolkiharImmersive.esp Conan_Hyborian_Age.esp Gildergreen Regrown.esp HighlyVisibleCrimsonNirnroots.esp Inconsequential NPCs.esp Markarth_plus.esp neaextbromjunaar.esp Run For Your Lives.esp When Vampires Attack.esp SaltMines.esp Spidercraft - TheGreyLight.esp The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp BetterQuestObjectives.esp BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp BR_HoodCirclets.esp CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp Civil War Repairs.esp Civil War Overhaul.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Lawrens RNG Guards.esp Convenient Horses.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp TheChoiceIsYours.esp TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp BetterQuestObjectives-TheChoiceIsYoursPatch.esp TimingIsEverything.esp BetterQuestObjectives-TimingIsEverythingPatch.esp skyforgedWeapons.esp Helgen Reborn.esp RiverwoodEnhancedPlugin.esp TAVERiften.esp TAVESolitude.esp TAVEWindhelm.esp L0S and TaVE patch.esp WhiterunInEnhanced.esp Oblivion Gates in Cities.esp BetterQuestObjectives-PersidRRentalPatch.esp SoS - The Dungeons.esp SoS - The Wilds.esp SoS - Civilization.esp Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp ESFCompanions.esp BetterQuestObjectives-MoonlightPatch.esp ShenkThieveryOverhaul.esp Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp 3DNPC.esp RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp RND_USKP-Patch.esp Atvir.esp KhajiitChildren.esp NonEssentialChildren.esp BetterQuestObjectives-NECPatch.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp BetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp Height Adjusted Races with True Giants.esp argonianraptor.esp CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp WATER.esp WATER Plants.esp WATER DG.esp WATER DB Waves.esp WATER Falskaar.esp BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp DragonPriestMaskQuestMarkers.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp ISCompendium CCO Patch.esp ISCompendium Enhanced Blood Patch.esp NetchLeather.esp RND_AnimalLoot.esp SofiaFollower.esp Teldryn Sero Fix.esp WarmongerArmory_DLC.esp CompanionArissa.esp daedric_phelm.esp RND_DestructibleBottles-Patch.esp RND_ETaC-Patch.esp SoS - Civilization -PatchCoTSounds.esp SoS - Civilization -PatchCoTSoundsWinterEdition.esp SoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.esp SoS - Civilization-PatchCoTWinterEdition.esp DeadlyMutilation.esp Brawl Bugs CE.esp Mighty Beasts - Werewolf.esp Mighty Beasts - Vampire Lord.esp Vorpal.esp Evil MasterMind Armor.esp Auto Unequip Ammo.esp Better Vampires.esp
WinterandStars Posted June 11, 2014 Posted June 11, 2014 CTD on startup is a problem of missing masters. Did you install or uninstall any new mods before the crashing occurred? If I might say so, your load order is kinda weird. Some of the mods at the bottom clearly belong somewhere else. Is there a specific reason you have them so low? Also, which version of BOSS do you have? The unofficial patches are not in order, and that might be because of an old version of either the patches or BOSS. From just looking at your load order, I'm not sure what might be wrong. What does WryeBash say?
JordanJ Posted June 11, 2014 Author Posted June 11, 2014 I did move some mods around, unfortunately, though I can't remember which ones. The weird load order is probably because BOSS didn't recognize some of the mods (about 10 of them) and I didn't know where to put them. I do seem to be having a problem with BOSS, in that it throws an error when I use it. Let me see if I can catch it...It says it can't update the masterlist, or something? I'm not sure.Also, while I was playing the game I noticed some texture mods and such that weren't in this load order appearing in the game, and I think they might be from an old install... At this point I think I'm gonna just have to do a completely fresh install.
WinterandStars Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 Ah, yes, that error you're talking about is because you have an old version of BOSS. Simply install the most recent version. Don't worry, any user rules you have created will not be overwritten by the new version. Also, unrecognised mods are, in most cases, pretty easy to sort with the BOSS user rules function. Just tell BOSS to load the esps after those they are similar to (for example, the Evil Mastermind Armour after the Aesir Armour).And texture mods are easy to re-install, so if those aren't working as they should, I'd recommend uninstalling those that come without an esp and installing them in an order you thought through well.
JordanJ Posted June 17, 2014 Author Posted June 17, 2014 I managed to solve the CTD on startup problem, it was a missing master associated with a patch I got from another mod. But now the game is frequently freezing and crashing and I'm not sure what to do to improve it. I've already cleaned everything with TES5Edit.
WinterandStars Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 Mh, well...Might it be a bloated save? How big is the save file you're playing on?Or maybe you are running out of memory? Consider installing the Memory Blocks Log plugin for SKSE if you haven't already, and if you are indeed running out of memory, you should install the Memory Patch. It comes with the most recent SKSE alpha version.Might also be that your rig can't handle all these mods, but that depends a lot on your texture mods and your graphics card. I don't think that's the problem though, since that usually shows itself in other things; low fps, missing textures and the like.And are there any special occasions when the game freezes or crashes, such as when going to certain locations, in combat, using certain spells or the like?
camaro_69_327 Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp<<<missing a patch...BOSS will tell you what one ....thinking top of my head....SIC, MOmod, DB, DG, need patching for this list.Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp<<<out of Order with the other one from this set. Run the new BOSS or Try LOOT both will have something to say about the above mods...could be other things , Post the BOSS/LOOT log..Curious.
JordanJ Posted June 21, 2014 Author Posted June 21, 2014 The game seems to crash to desktop when exiting to an exterior cell from an interior, but lately it's been happening while just roaming the wilderness. I have a good run yesterday, hours of play with no CTDs at all. I was playing the Falskaar mod so I wasn't actually in the Skyrim worldspace. Not so lucky today though, and still playing the Falskaar mod. I doubt it's a bloated save as I made a new savefile after reorganizing and cleaning all the mods for like, the third time, but I could be wrong. It's also probably not an issue with what my rig can handle (running with 8gb RAM and a Geforce GTX 780). I HAVE had that problem before and made sure to remove all texture mods as well as ENB before starting this time. Apart from, say, Climates of Tamriel there's nothing that alters the way the game looks, and during gameplay there are no problems with performance or lagging. It plays fine until it crashes.
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