To Pay Or Not To Pay, That Is The Question.

[Killians5]

Another thing to consider is Xbox players (like myself), all probably said no to the mods thing for obvious reasons.....and i think the only reason other players said no is there are alot of people on these forums that make some of their own mods so thats why that question didnt go the way you thought it would.

[Tenko]

I would purchase an expansion or a mod collection IF the price was right. I'm still very mad though because with Morrowind all of this was FREE! Now we only get patches free. I think we should at least have the Orrery free because the door was in the game but the content wasn't. They pretty much gave us an incomplete game! I think they should fix everything and give us the Orrery free because thats like saying, here's the game for $60 (or $70 depending on what version you bought) but parts of it are broken and some content is missing. You can buy the content back for a low price of $2 though. I mean give me a break! I know it's not a lot but still. This stuff was free with Morrowind so any amount of money is more than we had to pay for Morrowind mods. There is an infinite differance there! (2 / 0 = Unsolvable Equation = Infinite Differance) Also, $2 for horse armor? If they keep doing this it will start to add up and eventually you will be paying for your game once over. For most other games, extra stuff is free. If you had to pay $2 for every little bit of extra content for NWN you'd be paying a heck of a lot of money! Don't let Bethesda sucker you into buying their content because if you give them a little, they will take a lot and soon enough you will be paying for your game all over. Don't get me wrong, they're a great company but I just think this is outrageous!

[Alanador]

"How many of these mods on this site alone are true fixes, of programming errors that is? Sure...I know we haven't gotten the first patch yet...but should we even be expecting to wait?! It's like buying a car missing a few 'pieces' that are either absent or inferior. Why as a consumer have we rolled over on this issue to the point where we now expect to recieve a game that has obvious omissions, inaccuracies, and outright lazy programming. A clear example is the hunting Mod...which fixes the opacity of the lion pelt, which was set to true from what the author of this mod states. That's a pretty glaring omission, or oversight as it may be. Or how about the LOD handling which could have been done more efficiently? In essence what I'm saying is that we mod for many reasons, to enhance, change, and in some cases to wipe the a** of the lazy programmer who missed one of his responsiblities. I may make some horse armor of my own just to see it in the game as a free add on. I was very discouraged by this development. What will Bethesda do for money? I'm starting to wonder about that and only time will tell."

 

(Quoted from another thread in here. Sorry to be lazy :) ) Will I pay for anything short of a full blown addon expansion (like Tribunal and Bloodmoon) no, why pay for what this community makes for free...which extends the life of said game by YEARS...with fresh playable content. It should be a symbiotic relationship between coders and gamers. Think of how many people told friends about the amazing game they had to have because it will never stop moving forward. I must have sold 20 copies for them at least, through word of mouth advertising. As for pay mods...no thanks I'll make 'em myself. Maybe they aren't responsible to release a bug free game, but software CANNOT be returned at most stores...there is no test drive (sure some mags have em, but there must be a portion of people who have no idea, like people buying them as a gift etc, who have no knowledge of the game).

 

I think adding animation is possible. I'd imagine at least...I know it was in Morrowind, (dancing girls in earthly delights bar...many more examples as well), it's a matter of exporting them with the model out of 3dsMax, I think, as I haven't actually done this myself in the Oblivion setting. I still haven't checked out the editor (Oblivions') too much yet, I'm afraid of coming across content that might spoil stuff...adding polearms should be fairly feasable.

[Peregrine]

I think adding animation is possible. I'd imagine at least...I know it was in Morrowind, (dancing girls in earthly delights bar...many more examples as well), it's a matter of exporting them with the model out of 3dsMax, I think, as I haven't actually done this myself in the Oblivion setting. I still haven't checked out the editor (Oblivions') too much yet, I'm afraid of coming across content that might spoil stuff...adding polearms should be fairly feasable.

 

Unless things have changed since the last official statement I saw, it's not possible. They've said the animations (weapon animations) are not editable, as in the game won't even recognize any animation you try to add. Even if you could completely understand Oblivion's animation system without documentation (and this is a pretty big assumption, even for a 3d expert), you'd still have to hack the game engine to recognize the new files and add them to the list of options in the CS.

[lycantrophic]

Related to the things that are left out from the game, as u know there is not cloth wearing under the armor. However, most of the humans i kill in the game have cloths besides their armor. In my opinion, this means they thought of making people wear clothes under armor but they just left it out. I think that is just laziness, either leave it out completely or add it goddammit!

[icesin]

Individual Mod: NO! I will not pay!

 

Package of Mods: NO! I will NOT pay!

 

Mini Expansion: Depends on the price! Nothing over $35.99

 

Full Expansion: YES! I will pay! Thats just like Tribunal and Bloodmoon.

[clintonius]

Mini Expansion: Depends on the price! Nothing over $35.99

Holy crap! $35.99 for a mini expansion... thats about as much as a full expansion would cost. How long did it take you to grow that money tree? :P

[Assassinace]

To answer the question posed of would I buy a mod or mod pack ect I am undecided because what matters is if the content is good enough to warrent buying it and so far I have to say no. If they come out with something decent and fun then I probly will.

 

2horse armors that don't look great isn't worth it imo

1fedex quest and 4 lesser power spells that add and reduce stats isn't worth it (may be worth it with the cool looking orrery but haven't seen any screenies yet to make me interested)

At least they are getting closer to something I would pay for.

 

I have to say basing thier opinions based on how they like the practice of mods ect rather then the content which is sad. If Beth released something worth buying I would buy it. If they keep releaseing things like the orrery and horse armor I won't. Neither are worth the cost for me. I however have bought every non portable elder scrolls game from arena to oblivion (except redgaurd). The only disappointing one was battlespire. Also bought tribunal and bloodmoon and was slightly disappointed with tribunal but felt I got my money out of it and loved bloodmoon.

[thanateros]

So long as the modder community pushes what they can do with the CS and add scripts that dramatically change the way the game can be played and enhance the open ended theme of Oblivion, Beth will have to beg for my money. Horse armor = dumb; Orrery = waste of time/ money; Wizard Tower = dumb, waste of time, waste of money.

 

http://www.tessource.net/files/file.php?id=2915 for example is IMO the best mod released for Oblivion. Not only does it make use of something that already exists in the game, it makes it 1 million times better than how Bethesda worked it into the game. Aside from the simple fact that being able to have goblins follow you around is cool, the modder did it in such a way that makes logical sense in the game environment. As a player character, having possession of their tribal totem signify your dominance over their culture is a wonderful game mechanic. Also consider that aside from the DB and TG, there are no real outlets for evil aligned characters, and to me, calling the TG evil is a stretch. The DB is about all that qualifies, but they function in a way that qualifies as at least lawful evil; but mindless killing for profit get's old after a while. Having access to be able to take control of goblin population gives evil characters access to those minions they've always wanted (Saruman and Sauron anyone?). This opens up the possibility for you to roleplay as an evil character, and truly do evil things (eg. run your tribe into a town and let them wreak havoc on the populace or simply have a horde of bodyguards). In my opinion, it is this kind of example other modders should follow when developing and adding new content to the game, that they use the existing rules of the gameworld in such a way the improves the quality of the game experience in whatever domain the mod improves. I hope to see more mods like this in future; there are few mods out right now that actaully change how the game is played that I think are worth downloading, and this one is at the top of my list.

[aleswigger]

This poll should be limited to X-Box users only, not PC users. PC users shouldn't ever have to worry about buying mods, as the free mod community has the power to always put out something equivalent and in most cases better than anything you can pay for.