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Francesco's Crash


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Ok, not sure why this is happening, but my Oblivion game is crashing right out of the sewers. I've narrowed it down to the Francesco's Optional New Creatures part of the mod, but can't seem to figure out what's wrong with it. I know my computer can run it, because I've had it installed before, but can't remember what I did that made it work. I've ran BOSS and t still doesn't help. Can someone please tell me what the problem is? My load order is:

 

Oblivion.esm

Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

LoadingScreens.esp

DMRangerArmor.esp

Francesco's Optional Files.esp

ArmoryLab.esp

Knights.esp

P1DkeyChain.esp

SupremeMagicka.esp

SM_ShiveringIsles.esp

SM_EnchantStaff.esp

SM_Scrolls.esp

MidasSpells.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp

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When you installed Fran's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod did you check the box to add the BSA to the Oblivion ini during installation?

 

Under [Archive] near the bottom you should have something like this which is from my game ini:

 

sArchiveList=..\obmm\BSARedirection.bsa, Oblivion - Meshes.bsa, Oblivion - Textures - Compressed.bsa, Oblivion - Sounds.bsa, Oblivion - Voices1.bsa, Oblivion - Voices2.bsa, Oblivion - Misc.bsa, FraNewItems.bsa, FraNewCrea.bsa

You should also have this esp I believe...FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp. I can't check because I have FCOM installed and Fran's is an exe so I don't want to run it again, but I do have that esp in my list (FCOM version).

 

Using a Bashed Patch might help as well since Fran's alters leveled lists and is recommended in the Official forum thread here:

http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=921906

 

You may want to read the bottom of the long description re missing armour and enemies only having calipers for loot in case you have that issue.

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I don't remember seeing a box to check for that. I did check my Oblivion.ini file and this is what I have:

 

SArchiveList=Oblivion - Meshes.bsa, Oblivion - Textures - Compressed.bsa, Oblivion - Sounds.bsa, Oblivion - Voices1.bsa, Oblivion - Voices2.bsa, Oblivion - Misc.bsa

 

If that is the problem, how do I fix it?

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Find that line again then add "FraNewItems.bsa, FraNewCrea.bsa" to the end of it. When you are done, the line should look like this:

SArchiveList=Oblivion - Meshes.bsa, Oblivion - Textures - Compressed.bsa, Oblivion - Sounds.bsa, Oblivion - Voices1.bsa, Oblivion - Voices2.bsa, Oblivion - Misc.bsa, FraNewItems.bsa, FraNewCrea.bsa

 

Also go into Oblivion's Data Files folder and make sure FraNewItems.bsa and FraNewCrea.bsa are present before you make changes to Oblivion.ini.

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I don't remember seeing a box to check for that. I did check my Oblivion.ini file and this is what I have:

 

SArchiveList=Oblivion - Meshes.bsa, Oblivion - Textures - Compressed.bsa, Oblivion - Sounds.bsa, Oblivion - Voices1.bsa, Oblivion - Voices2.bsa, Oblivion - Misc.bsa

 

If that is the problem, how do I fix it?

 

 

When you install the either Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod or the addon it asks you if you want to register the BSA's in the game ini file. I can't remember which one it is without running the exe, but I'm sure it's the addon.

 

You can either reinstall the mod and make sure you answer yes to that question OR add these lines to your ini like it is in my post.

FraNewItems.bsa, FraNewCrea.bsa

 

If you don't actually have the esp for the addon you'll need to reinstall it anyway since the only way to get the esp is to reinstall it.

 

You also should be using OBMM (Oblivion Mod Manager) and the Archive Invalidation feature to force the game to use the new items from Fran's or you will probably have missing meshes and textures. You will also see that in my ini text at the beginning regarding OBMM BSA redirection.

 

Info on how to use the Archive Invalidation is in the OBMM help file and is easy to use.

 

Did you look at the forum thread I linked you to? You'll find all the answers there as well.

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Ok, I checked and I don't have the bsa files, just the esm files. So before I make the change to the Archive, how do I tell if the installer even has the bsa files, since I've tried to re-install a few times and have never seen the bsa files?
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The optional new items add-on is a seperate (almost 500mb if I remember correctly)download, which I'm guessing you don't have. Redownload it and run the .exe, that should fix you right up.

 

Jenrai

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