Problems with FOSE/Mods in general

[Shuzaaam]

Cannot even get my game to start anymore, its just crashing as soon as I start it up now. I ran FOSE with all my desired mods installed and it just crashes my game. These are my error logs:

 

Any help would be very appreciated, since the only reason I bought Fallout 3 for my PC was so I can mod the s*** out of it. Please and thanks :D

Edited June 25, 2014 by Shuzaaam

[Purr4me]

To start with , please delete that post, condense it down. Nothing other than this means anything here any way " (LoadedModule[30]=C:\windows\SYSTEM32\xlive.dll) "

 

There is a link to an updated usable Fomm Mod manager that contains the cheat / fake xlive.dll which it will intall into the correct place for your game. It will act as an over ride.

 

Basicly I need better and cleaner information "calm, cool , and collected. I am very good at these games, I an destroy them easy, and then fix the messess I make, but I can't fix your mess with a ton of junk as that is what I see.

 

Windows 8 is a brand new Operating system and it is not nice to fallout 3, for that matter, not nice to a lot of games.

Most helpfull infor mation is in my signature and it only requires for you to look at it. All the needed tools are listed there, including help sites for your systems and graphics setups. Native Win 8 drivers should run FO3, but I have sen then not do so. It depends on the machines inside gut's. main board, and electronics it uses.

 

if there are any questions? I can only try to answer them.

kitty

[M48A5]

Your game is being blocked by your UAC. Since your game is installed in "Program Files", the User Access Controls are blocking FOSE, since FOSE modifies the Fallout3.exe.

[Shuzaaam]

To start with , please delete that post, condense it down. Nothing other than this means anything here any way " (LoadedModule[30]=C:\windows\SYSTEM32\xlive.dll) "

 

There is a link to an updated usable Fomm Mod manager that contains the cheat / fake xlive.dll which it will intall into the correct place for your game. It will act as an over ride.

 

Basicly I need better and cleaner information "calm, cool , and collected. I am very good at these games, I an destroy them easy, and then fix the messess I make, but I can't fix your mess with a ton of junk as that is what I see.

 

Windows 8 is a brand new Operating system and it is not nice to fallout 3, for that matter, not nice to a lot of games.

Most helpfull infor mation is in my signature and it only requires for you to look at it. All the needed tools are listed there, including help sites for your systems and graphics setups. Native Win 8 drivers should run FO3, but I have sen then not do so. It depends on the machines inside gut's. main board, and electronics it uses.

 

if there are any questions? I can only try to answer them.

kitty

 

Okay, just deleted all of the error reports. If you need my specs then here they are:

Intel® Core i3-3240 CPU @ 3.40Ghz

8 GB RAM

64 bit operating system

Intel® HD Graphics

(Not a very good video card, but I don't think it's the video card's problem because I can run Fallout 3 w/o mods and it runs fine.)

 

M48A5 tells me my UAC is blocking it, so I moved my Steam folder from my Program Files into my Hard Drive itself and tried to launch it from there (using fose ofc), but another unsuccessful startup.

 

Your game is being blocked by your UAC. Since your game is installed in "Program Files", the User Access Controls are blocking FOSE, since FOSE modifies the Fallout3.exe.

[Purr4me]

look on the steam forums for the help on How to properly Move "steam"...Steam is Not fallout 3, It may be to you as you have the downloaded "Steam Version", I can not help with all of that because you have it all installed now.

 

But, when installing steam, you do not need any games installed before hand. when going to the Valve web site, always there is a green button at the top right hand corner to download and install steam.

 

this is theeeeeeee very first step ever to make or take on windows 8. do not do other wise. Windows 8 and 8.1 will choose criteria for the OS overlay during install and set up the correct security information. <---- That is what is preventing your game from running now as you have Moved it else where and if you look at the files in windows explorer, with attributes set to see and NOT hide all files extensions, you will see Gold locks on all files, the ones you moved.

 

The data, once installed into " C:\program files and folders" are now write protected files. Owned By the OS, Not you, so moving them out simply lock YOU out fro many editing of them and Prevents usage. The problem is the New Operating system uses different security.

 

uninstall or back up your game files, Not steam....unless you have a ton of games in there? if so, you need to move all the stuff back where you found it, reboot and verify steams catch. you tell steam not to use the game, set them all as non steam games and get the information to correctly move vales product out from where it lays.

 

If you have NO other games installed? uninstall valve/steam and the game, reboot, verify steam is gone and no traces of it are there and install Steam only and this time choose an external HDD instead. once steam is installed and scans what it wants, it will check your online account and "Offer to restore your GOTY game back on that PC for you. now, fallout will run.

 

However:

Intel® Core™ i3-3240 CPU @ 3.40Ghz

8 GB RAM

64 bit operating system

Intel® HD Graphics <---- That there means you need the graphic fix dll found in my signature , so here is the link. to test first.

All the above is for you to know about, it is not instructions, what it is is what every one has been doing and knows about.

http://fallout3.nexu...om/mods/17209/? <---------Intel HD graphics Bypass package by Bren712

 

Had you posted this first, this would have been all that was needed.

Kitty

[Shuzaaam]

look on the steam forums for the help on How to properly Move "steam"...Steam is Not fallout 3, It may be to you as you have the downloaded "Steam Version", I can not help with all of that because you have it all installed now.

 

But, when installing steam, you do not need any games installed before hand. when going to the Valve web site, always there is a green button at the top right hand corner to download and install steam.

 

this is theeeeeeee very first step ever to make or take on windows 8. do not do other wise. Windows 8 and 8.1 will choose criteria for the OS overlay during install and set up the correct security information. <---- That is what is preventing your game from running now as you have Moved it else where and if you look at the files in windows explorer, with attributes set to see and NOT hide all files extensions, you will see Gold locks on all files, the ones you moved.

 

The data, once installed into " C:\program files and folders" are now write protected files. Owned By the OS, Not you, so moving them out simply lock YOU out fro many editing of them and Prevents usage. The problem is the New Operating system uses different security.

 

uninstall or back up your game files, Not steam....unless you have a ton of games in there? if so, you need to move all the stuff back where you found it, reboot and verify steams catch. you tell steam not to use the game, set them all as non steam games and get the information to correctly move vales product out from where it lays.

 

If you have NO other games installed? uninstall valve/steam and the game, reboot, verify steam is gone and no traces of it are there and install Steam only and this time choose an external HDD instead. once steam is installed and scans what it wants, it will check your online account and "Offer to restore your GOTY game back on that PC for you. now, fallout will run.

 

However:

Intel® Core™ i3-3240 CPU @ 3.40Ghz

8 GB RAM

64 bit operating system

Intel® HD Graphics <---- That there means you need the graphic fix dll found in my signature , so here is the link. to test first.

All the above is for you to know about, it is not instructions, what it is is what every one has been doing and knows about.

http://fallout3.nexu...om/mods/17209/? <---------Intel HD graphics Bypass package by Bren712

 

Had you posted this first, this would have been all that was needed.

Kitty

How come I have so much trouble with Windows 8 when everyone I know just installs Nexus Mod Manager, completely ignores FOSE and all their mods work? So, I'm not allowed to edit anything with mods, modify anything at all in my program files? I have to move all of my files out of steam? Set them all as non-steam games and completely re-install steam on an external DDR? Why does it have to be this complicated for me but my friends just bypass all of the other stuff I've been trying to do and completely go against everything the nexus wiki told me to do and their s*** works and I'm stuck here with the 50th crash screen in the past two days?

 

Edit: The link to the Intel HD Graphics Bypass package is broken, nothing loads and it's just a blank screen.

Edited June 25, 2014 by Shuzaaam

[M48A5]

Try this link: http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/17209/?

 

As far as what your friends can or can't do, maybe they have a different system, cpu, gpu, ram, install location, etc. Since your friends are so successful with Fallout 3 , why don't you go face to face with them for help?

I would think it would be much easier to do that than to post here and wait for a reply that may or may not help you.

[Purr4me]

http://fs-16.nexusmods.com/FS/Libs/Common/Managers/Downloads?Download&nid=120&fid=82734

Direct Off the server

[Shuzaaam]

Try this link: http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/17209/?

 

As far as what your friends can or can't do, maybe they have a different system, cpu, gpu, ram, install location, etc. Since your friends are so successful with Fallout 3 , why don't you go face to face with them for help?

I would think it would be much easier to do that than to post here and wait for a reply that may or may not help you.

 

Haha, yeah I'm explaining my problem to them and they really cannot help me at all. Half of my friends just installed NMM and FOSE, the rest just installed NMM and modded everything that they wanted. They don't know much about scripts so I doubt they can go into more depth than "you did something wrong" with my problem, lol. That's just friends I guess. I don't know their complete specs, but most of them do have a better GPU than me and Windows 8.

http://fs-16.nexusmods.com/FS/Libs/Common/Managers/Downloads?Download&nid=120&fid=82734

Direct Off the server

 

Thanks guys for linking me the correct links, sad to say though that it's still crashing. I'm seeing tutorials with them modding the steam version and it's suggested that I edit the INI folder. Is that actually going to help me with launching FOSE or just help me launch fallout from steam?

[Purr4me]

There may be a distinct possibility your Visual basic data you have installed on windows 8 is missing a file or two.

The game and steam both require or need to access and control that desktop display driver.

 

so, you need to use steam to run the programs from inside steams control panel. Add programs from there.

Fose is an executable that Knows to run the main game executable. But the game launcher is required to set up the surface first for the display.

 

I run all my games now in a sandbox and that is way off the subject here, but it does Isolate issues dead so I know what is going on.

Windows 7 is NOT the same as windows 8. Will Fomm load the game?...from inside steam? AKA open steam program manager and run Fomm from there. the first button on the right of fomm should show the Fose loader is installed.

 

at the top during this procedure, open up the file tweaker and reset the fake live *.dll. Live may be what is shutting down the game?

The above conversation shows a massive confused installation mess. But here is a simple thing, it is only one game, and Two operating systems. windows 8 and Steam. Steam is a full blown gamers OS, it is made for online games, and it should be up to date.

 

But, your machine is the Achilles heal here. That rig, the graphics chip set is where things get messed up.

 

the ini file will only get made after the game has actually ran from the use of the games launcher. it will not make a new one with out the game entering the Environment.

 

lockup on start is usually a mod conflict, Run the game raw , NO mods installed period, nothing in the data directory at all But fallout3's data. Eliminate all possible influences and be sure of what is being loaded.

 

on the bottom or the screen, your desktop, right click it and select task man, have it running during all tests. What this is used for is to alt tab out and see what is actually loading up when the game is running. It's a lot to know and do.

 

on a clean system and that dll file, and a retail game, that game will run on that system clean. But, steam's system is in control here.

 

at a loss as what to do for you.

kitty