CTD when I open the world map; help?

[DavidJCobb]

I get a crash to desktop whenever I open the world map, and I'm not sure why. Skyrim instantly switches to a black screen with a window frame (as if I had Alt+Tabbed out) before vanishing a fraction of a second later. The game is otherwise stable even with a large number of mods installed; I don't get consistent crashes anywhere else, and while my frame rate is low (in the 14 - 21 FPS range) it's generally consistent. I'm mostly a console peasant and I only recently got Skyrim on PC, so I'm not well-versed on all this, but I'll offer what information I can.

 

System specs

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K @ 3.40GHz [listed four times in Device Manager]

GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GT 520

RAM: 8GB

OS: Windows 7, 64-bit

 

Game details

Install path: C:\program files(x86)\steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\

DLCs: Dawnguard, Hearthfire, Dragonborn

Version: 1.9.32.0

Mod manager: Nexus Mod Manager 0.50.3

Load order manager: LOOT

 

Mods that aren't, like, the usual ESP/BSA/etc. things

SKSE (skse_loader.exe lists itself as version 0.1.6.16)

SSME - Skyrim Startup Memory Editor

ScriptDragon

 

Load order (plugins.txt)

Strangely, AFAIK the only mod here that affects the world map is "A Quality World Map", and disabling that did not stop the crashes. Anywho, I don't have a BOSS readout because apparently that program's been deprecated for some time (I'm using LOOT which shows no errors), but here's my load order for active plug-ins.

 

Still working on translating these to recognizable mod names. The post editor here is mangling the list for some reason. Repeatedly. Weird.

 

  Reveal hidden contents

Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Falskaar.esm
Wyrmstooth.esp
Dustbound.esm
MFVM.esm
Solar's Portable Containers.esm
Beards.esp
3rd Person Killmoves only!.esp (3rd Person Finishers only)
SnowyNightingale.esp (Sharlikrans Compatibility Patches)
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp
Daedric Artus Corium.esp
BetterQuestObjectives.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp
Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp
Topics of Skyrim.esp
Solar's Portable Containers DG.esp
LovelyHairstylesCE.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp
CrimeEnchanced.esp (Murder Enchanced)
brawlbug-plugin.esp (Brawl Bug Plugin)
Sit Anywhere.esp
chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp
SkyUI.esp
DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp
Solar's Portable Containers DB.esp
MarriedKhajiitXtras.esp (Talkative Khajiit Spouses)
Player Size Adjuster.esp
dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
Animated Dragon Wings.esp
Proper Aiming.esp
DaedricWOP.esp
Dr_BandolierDG.esp (Bandolier - Dawnguard)
Fine Armguards.esp (Craftable Fine Armguards)
Realistic crime report radius.esp (Realistic Crime Radius)
Facelight.esp (Face Light)
Solar's Portable Containers FS.esp
SkyEncMod.esp (SEM Skyrim Encumbrance Mod)
NoDisarm.esp
ForswornHAIR.esp
RaceChanger.esp
When Vampires Attack.esp
FreckleMania.esp
AOS.esp (Audio Overhaul for Skyrim 2)
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
female mannequins.esp
Loadout.esp
MoreHeartsAndFlesh.esp
Headtracking.esp (Player Headtracking)
Customizable Camera.esp
Feminine Females.esp
Slightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Higher Bounties Hold Specific.esp (Higher Bounties for Crimes)
towBlockSteal.esp (Blocksteal)
SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp
Brows.esp
Improved Dragonrend Shout.esp
MFVM_Hearthfire_Patch.esp
pinewindhelm.esp (Trees in Cities - Pine Windhelm)
Krev The Skinner's Mantle by Hothtrooper44.esp (Mantle of the Silver Hand)
360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp (360 Walk and Run Plus)
NoPrisonersOutfit.esp
Mercy.esp
NoFallDamageforVL.esp
ORM-Arvak.esp (The Elder Scrolls V Rewritten - Arvak)
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
RaceMenu.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp (Bandolier - Bags and Pouches)
BandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp
vAutosaveManager.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
TDP Test Mod.esp
Immersive Whiterun.esp
Immersive Dawnstar.esp
Artemis Clothes.esp (White Tavern Clothes STANDALONE)
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp
Cloaks.esp
Immersive Riverwood.esp
Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp
Legionettes.esp
DA_CastleTower.esp (Castle Dour Tower - Restored)
Immersive Falkreath.esp
Immersive Rorikstead.esp
Immersive Morthal.esp
CZHCAD.esp (Home Construction and Decoration)
Immersive Ivarstead.esp
Immersive Dragon Bridge.esp
Immersive Shors stone.esp
Inigo.esp
Immersive Karthwasten.esp
Purewaters.esp
Really Radiant Raiment.esp
Sate That Appetite.esp
_eatmod.esp (Enchant any armour)
Immersive Darkwater crossing.esp
Immersive Stonehills.esp
Immersive Kynesgrove.esp
PersonalizedMusic_v5.0.esp
spriggan_mask.esp (Spriggan Mask)
BorderSense.esp
PrvtIBearclawHelm.esp
WhiteMageRobes.esp (FINALLY White Mage Robes)
BloodyFacials.esp
Solar's Portable Containers HF.esp
SoSFC.esp (Skyrim Scarves and Mufflers)
BandolierForNPCsCloaksOfSkyrim.esp
theRoadstrokersRogueSorceress.esp
MarkersOfSkyrim.esp
TsarevnaOutfit.esp
Turn_Any_Spouse_v1.1.esp
UlfricForFem.esp (Ulfrics clothes - for women)
VampireShadows.esp (Vampires Shelter in Shadows)
VelvetRobesandCloaks.esp
vSCM_SmarterCombatMusic.esp
WM Trap Fixes.esp

 

Edited June 25, 2014 by DavidJCobb

[DavidJCobb]

Through testing, I have confirmed that the problem is not caused by the majority of my mods or by any specific settings/overrides I've enabled on the graphics card. A clean install (aside from some SKSE / SSME stuff) still crashed when opening the map.

 

Is a non-mod-related issue outside the scope of these forums?

Edited June 26, 2014 by DavidJCobb

[Androktone]

Find your Skyrim.ini and paste here the [MapMenu] section.

[DavidJCobb]

There is no [MapMenu] section in my Skyrim.ini. Is that normal?

[Androktone]

Yes, it's normal. Add this at the bottom of Skyrim.ini and see what happens:

 

[MapMenu]

uLockedObjectMapLOD=8
uLockedTerrainLOD=8

[DavidJCobb]

I added those lines, but the map still crashes.

[Androktone]

Did you perchance install higher quality meshes for "A Quality World Map"?

[DavidJCobb]

I don't think so, no. I selected "Quality Map (HiRes)" when installing AQWM, but I didn't install the mesh mod mentioned in its description on this site.

[Androktone]

Hmmm..... Do you have any files in Data\\Meshes\\Terrain\\Tamriel or Data\\meshes\\sky ?

[DavidJCobb]

I have .../Data/meshes/sky/skyrimworldmapcloudbank.nif

 

EDIT: Temporarily removing the file did not resolve the crash. I also tried a few other things (e.g. tcl-ing into the sky at about world map height) and I still don't know what the problem is.

 

Don't know what the problem is, but thanks for trying to help, mate. It's appreciated.

 

EDIT: After another clean install, I've confirmed that it's something in my INI files. I'm working on tracking down what, precisely, it is; I'll update this post when I find it.

 

EDIT: No clue how I missed this in previous searches, but adding bBloodSplatterEnabled to the INI files kills the world map.

Edited July 3, 2014 by DavidJCobb