Occasional crashes and freezes

[zwierz]

Hello everyone, I have small problem with my Oblivion : /

 

I have downloaded many mods recently (about 7gb :D ) and I have small problems with my game.

It's not very frustrating, but occasionally Im recieving game freezes and crashes while playing.

Freezes are rare, but very random, it's hard to determine when next will appear.

Crashes are rare too (can appear after 2-3 hours of playing) and most of times game crashes when I'm loading savegame (mainly after death).

 

I've tried to use BOSS to set 'optimal' mod load order, but game started to crash more often.

So I've spent about a hour to set my own load order using information provided on that page:

http://devnull.sweetdanger.net/loadorder.html

 

This is full load order of my addons, most of them are latest versions.

Latest Wrye Bash, OBSE and OBMM are installed too and mods that require these are working fine.

 

Oblivion.esm

AWS-Core.esm

CM Partners.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

ShieldOnBack.esm

cssBase.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

AWS-ShiveringIsles.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Better Water.esp

Real Lava 1.3.esp

Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp

Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp

Let There Be Darkness - Mehrunes Razor.esp

xulCheydinhalFalls.esp

xulBlackwoodForest.esp

xulImperialIsle.esp

xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp

xulRiverEthe.esp

xulPantherRiver.esp

xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp

xulCloudtopMountains.esp

xulAncientYews.esp

xulArriusCreek.esp

xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

xulLushWoodlands.esp

xulBravilBarrowfields.esp

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

xulChorrolHinterland.esp

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

xulFallenleafEverglade.esp

XulEntiusGorge.esp

xulTheHeath.esp

xulStendarrValley.esp

xuldarkforest.esp

xulAspenWood.esp

AliveWaters.esp

AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp

AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp

PCSoundValygar.esp

cssSafana.esp

MIS.esp

MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp

EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp

EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

EyelashesVannilaRaces.esp

All normal clothes buyable.esp

300_Brocade_Outfits.esp

ACCCGR.esp

ACCCGR SI.esp

RenGuardOverhaul.esp

RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp

personality_idles4.esp

ShieldOnBack_1C.esp

ChaseCameraMod.esp

Portable Campsite.esp

Harvest[Containers].esp

ZumbsLockpickingMod - OBSE.esp

Enhanced Grabbing.esp

Denock Arrows.esp

actors_in_charge.esp

ActorsInMadness.esp

CM Partners.esp

DARaewyn.esp

Chargeable Spells by grmblf.esp

TRN One of the Gang.esp

Lich King's Helm v1_0.esp

New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp

Warglaives by Jojjo v1.0.SoB.esp

Adonnays Ranger Coats.esp

Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp

Armory of the Silver Dragon.esp

BlackLuster.esp

Dread Knight Armor.esp

rdweaponpack1.esp

Sauron_Armor_Chest.esp

slayersword.esp

tda_Armoury Beta v1_2.esp

tda_ScytheModv1.2.esp

tda_WitchKingHelm.esp

Tyrael Armor.esp

Thieves Arsenal.esp

Akaviri Imports.esp

Silverlight Armor by Jojjo.esp

Apachii_Heroes_Store.esp

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

mythsandlegends.esp

Assassins Creed - Altair's Gear.esp

MidasSpells.esp

Telekinetic Mastery.esp

ArcaneArchery.esp

Dwemer_Skyship_1_1_0.esp

AncientTowers.esp

MountainShack.esp

FarmAnimalsofCyrodiil.esp

Cheydinhal Petshop.esp

BravilSeaDomes.esp

mrSiikas_DwemerTechnology_DwemerSubway.esp

Solace.esp

TOTW.esp

TOTWfurn.esp

TOTWcamp.esp

DLCfrostcrag.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp

BHC_Expanded.esp

The Lost Spires.esp

Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp

300_White Stallion 4.esp

Beautiful People.esp

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

Oblivion WarCry EV.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

And my questions are:

 

1. Could any of you, my dear experts, give me some small advices what should I change in my load order? Which mod should be moved up / down / etc. ?

I understand that Oblivion mods aren't perfectly stable and compatible, but if u know something that I should know, then I'll appreciate any tips :)

 

2. I was thinking about downloading OOO and MMM, but Im not sure if they will be compatible with WarCry. If there will be no problems, where should I put OOO and MMM on my load order?

 

Thank you very much for reading this topic, I'll appreciate any help :)

[Maegfaer]

I don't know all the mods on the list, but those I know seem to be fine...

 

When do these crashes happen?

 

It could very well be your settings in your Oblivion.ini that causes the crashes instead of your load order. Did you edit it?

[Jahmir0]

to be honest if your game is only crashing every 2/3 hours you´re probably more lucky than most of the players that use as many mods as you do :P

 

I´m no expert on load orders and you also have lots of mods that i don´t use so i can´t be of much help with that. However these 2 utilities have saved me lots of headaches regarding crashes:

 

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22282

 

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=10400

 

Hope it helps

[Fonger]

When you run your load order through BOSS it'll tell you that

300_White Stallion 4 is outdated and you should install

Feudal_Empire_300 instead (updated mod by the same author)

 

BOSS and Feudal_Empire_300 can be found on tesnexus

[zwierz]

I don't know all the mods on the list, but those I know seem to be fine...

 

When do these crashes happen?

 

It could very well be your settings in your Oblivion.ini that causes the crashes instead of your load order. Did you edit it?

 

As I've written, 'crashes' are happening every 2-3 hours of playing, especially when I'm loading my saved games, autosave and quick saves, and rarely when I'm travelling between locations.

 

I didn't changed any information in my Oblivion.ini (but to prevent game from crashing and freezing should I set something there?)

 

And I'll check that 'Windom Earle_s Oblivion Crash Prevention System' :)

 

If someone else could gimme more tips about my load order, feel free to comment.

I'll appreciate any information :)

[Maegfaer]

You should certainly edit your Oblivion.ini, it will improve performance a LOT if you choose the right settings (especially iPreloadSizeLimit=26214400. This setting appears to determine the maximum amount (in bytes) of RAM allowed for preloading game data, which is only about 25 MB by default).

 

That one in particular MIGHT help you get less crashes, since the game will have more memory available.

 

Just google "oblivion.ini" for tweaking guides.

[bben46]

Here is a link to Bben's Crash Help

http://www.tesnexus.com/articles/article.php?id=298.

[Maigrets]

You'd have to be the luckiest person playing a heavily modded game to play 2 or 3 hours without a crash... :biggrin: I'm thinking you might be expecting a bit much with a long list like that. I have 240 or so including FCOM and I can play around the same length of time, but eventually it crashes. Usually it's a bad spawn point or something similar.

 

To help a little more disable all auto saves and delete your Quicksave every so often and make a new one. Auto saves especially are known to become corrupted sooner or later and this can carry over to hard saves.

 

I was thinking about downloading OOO and MMM, but Im not sure if they will be compatible with WarCry. If there will be no problems, where should I put OOO and MMM on my load order?

 

War Cry is not compatible with either MMM or OOO unless you use FCOM which combines all of them as well as adding Francesco's and Bob's Armoury and more. OOO and MMM can be used together as can Fran's and MMM. Just make sure to read ALL docs thoroughly.

 

If you're interested in FCOM have a read of the Official forum page. It's totally worth it, and it's like a different game, but you need patience and time to read through all the info. I was lucky in that I've been using OOO and MMM for years so it wasn't much of a drama to install. You have a Bashed Patch so know all about Wrye Bash and that puts you ahead to start with. :smile:

http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/index.ph...owtopic=1075069

 

There's also this page but it's a bit out of date. You'd be better going by the above linked forum pages.

http://devnull.sweetdanger.net/fcominstall.html

[zwierz]

Well, thank you very much for fast replies :)

 

I've managed to minimize crashes in game but still I'm getting game freezes from time to time.

 

And I would use FCOM, but it requires mods that are hosted on FilePlanet (MMM 3.55 for example) and I don't want to pay real cash for full access to that site :P

I'll stay with WarCry :]

[Fonger]

And I would use FCOM, but it requires mods that are hosted on FilePlanet (MMM 3.55 for example) and I don't want to pay real cash for full access to that site :P

I'll stay with WarCry :]

That's odd

 

I got MMM 3.73 recently

 

and never needed to pay to get files out of File Planet