New to all forms of game modding. having NMM and FOMM trouble..

[NamesAreTooSimple]

hi, i'm extrememly new to modding and honestly, its terrifying. i have been learning from Gopher and his tutorials but he pretty much exclusively covers NMM, which is fine, i was able to mod quite a few things into the game without trouble.. but then came Fallout Mod Manager requirememts.. i thought, "ok, sure, shouldn't be too hard" so i download it and noT only would it NOT start, but the entire fallout game got murdered beyond fixing. so i had to uninstall nexus, FOMM, and completely wipe fallout from any existance on my computer..

 

 

so my main question is, how am i supposed to use FOMM and NMM together without creating video game homicide? the only way i know how to install mods is through the nexus manager and copy pasting to data folder (which i hate doing)

Edited July 8, 2014 by NamesAreTooSimple

[Oubliette]

Just stick to one or the other. NMM should install most FOMM mods without problems as they're basically the same program, sort of (the managers started as OBMM then when fallout came out it was changed slightly and renamed FOMM, when Skyrim came out they partnered with Nexus and became NMM while maintaining backwards compatibility with previous games with minor issues). If you find a mod that actually won't install correctly with NMM you can either skip it (recommended for your level) install it manually (yup still an option) or do what more experienced mod users do and use FOMM anyway (you need to understand how both managers work in order to do this properly though).

[Purr4me]

 

in my signature, there si a notwork wide set of help links to the appropriate updated software currently in use here. there is Fomm, rewritten / modified to work Off line. It uses the git hub / Loot source as it's load order template.

the Original Fomm requires expert recalibrating from your side, you can use the data from the updated version to control the lder versions afflictions.

but, to remove the complex city from this , just use the updated version of fomm. it is on the New Vegas sections of fallout but is for use on both games. So, don't get confused from the source of the software.

Older fomm used a .net software that is incompatible with newer operating systems so the data it rely s on is not being allowed to be installed on Windows 8 "if that is what your using?"

the .net software installed By the NMM is not the same as required from the older fomm packages. there is a dll bug that gets introduced and there is no workaround for it. Either use Nmm or use fomm if you are not familiar with programming,

fallout 3....is not user friendly any more, not with all the new stuff presented here. Things have changed.

you have one other choice .install a raw Fo3, then install Mod organizer latest version, test it, make sure the data works on a normal game.

set up and remove GFWL data, use the older fomms version of the fale live *.dll. you can install it and go to the fomm config sections where it is installed and simply copy that dll to the games root directory and have a fake live file so windows will leave you alone.

here, in this place. you need to be specific as to what you have and use for your games. OS, hardware, place installed, user account control settings, logged on as? these things are required for any one to give you the slightest idea of what can be wrong.

For you, the best way is the more info you provide us ,the better your prospects will be to a clean game.

 

kitty

Edited July 9, 2014 by Purr4me

[NamesAreTooSimple]

Just stick to one or the other. NMM should install most FOMM mods without problems as they're basically the same program, sort of (the managers started as OBMM then when fallout came out it was changed slightly and renamed FOMM, when Skyrim came out they partnered with Nexus and became NMM while maintaining backwards compatibility with previous games with minor issues). If you find a mod that actually won't install correctly with NMM you can either skip it (recommended for your level) install it manually (yup still an option) or do what more experienced mod users do and use FOMM anyway (you need to understand how both managers work in order to do this properly though).

 

you're talking as if i can understand any of what you just said... please explain these things to me like i'm 5

 

edit: i meant to quote Purr4me.. i understood oubliette just fine.

Edited July 8, 2014 by NamesAreTooSimple

[NamesAreTooSimple]

i'm still having some trouble. i want to use the Unified HUD mod http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/38961/? but it says i NEED FOMM for it to work, yet FOMM doesn't (or didn't, in this contex) even open.

[SayinNuthin]

 

Just stick to one or the other. NMM should install most FOMM mods without problems as they're basically the same program, sort of (the managers started as OBMM then when fallout came out it was changed slightly and renamed FOMM, when Skyrim came out they partnered with Nexus and became NMM while maintaining backwards compatibility with previous games with minor issues). If you find a mod that actually won't install correctly with NMM you can either skip it (recommended for your level) install it manually (yup still an option) or do what more experienced mod users do and use FOMM anyway (you need to understand how both managers work in order to do this properly though).

 

you're talking as if i can understand any of what you just said... please explain these things to me like i'm 5

 

 

is the website down also? i can't get into the mods.. "no data received 'Unable to load the webpage because the server sent no data"."service unavailable" i've been getting this all day.

 

 

He said NexusModManager (NMM) can do everything that FalloutModManager (FOMM) can do because it's the same program but newer. And you should have one or the other but unless you really know what your doing Not Both!

 

He also mentions my favourite option of manually installing mods - which can be a bit tricky at first but I think is worth getting the hang of because in the long run you will understand more about how the game's directory is structured. Which comes in useful if things go wrong.

 

But he's also making the point that there are now some very complex mods for Fallout3 (Fo3). Mods that require other mods to work as well as conditions such as 'Archive-Invalidation' which NMM will do for you.

 

Take his advice, fresh instal base game plus DLCs, then NMM the NexusModManager. Then try the high end complex mods your trying to run. Alternatively start installing simple mods by hand and work your way up to the biguns... And eventually you won't 'need' a mod manager.

[NamesAreTooSimple]

i meant to quote purr4me. i understood oubliette just fine.. but thank you.

Edited July 9, 2014 by NamesAreTooSimple

[SplAdamb]

Don't know if you got this resolved, but I myself just switched from FOMM to NMM (which I was using for everything else from Skyrim to State of Decay), and it appears that it says in the description that this can be installed with NMM.

 

Don't worry about being new to this, if you have any further questions, feel free to ask.

 

EDIT: I see what you are saying, when you try to DL it, you get a pop-up warning. Let me do some reading and find out what that is about.

 

AND EDIT2: Hahahaha, I just read your post in the comments, and after reading some more, mindkiller gave you good advice and you made the right decision, if you are using all the mods that Gopher recomends in that vid, then you are making the right decision to skip this one. After all the really technical problems I see people are having with this one, and given that you are new to this, this one might just be a pain for you.

 

A note on FOMM, if it was crashing on you, make sure you didn't use the same folder location for both NMM and FOMM, and make sure you don't open both at the same time, that was causing FOMM to not work for me. I feel you might find NMM a bit easier to use, given it has that nifty Down Load button on the Nexus, good luck.

Edited August 21, 2014 by SplAdamb