Whiterun Problems. CTD/Never Ending Loading Screens

Politrix · July 9, 2014

Skyrim crashes in, around and everywhere near Whiterun. I coc'd to other locations and they work fine. I did multiple fixes but the problem is still there. It has been 2 weeks and I'm pissed through and through.

I've done the following:
>Reinstalled Skyrim
>Save cleaner, in Skyrim's root folder. (E:)

>Used Wrye Bash
>Used LOOT
>Cleaned all dirty edits with TES5edit
>Ran Skyrim without mods
>Started from a brand new save (where it starts from the carriage)
>This - http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/4219/?

>This - http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/1175/?
>These - http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/19/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/25127/?

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/31083/?

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/23491/?

>Running Vanilla Skyrim

>CTRL + ALT + TAB and clicking cancel
>ALT + TAB and maximize Skyrim again

>Verify integrity of game cache (did jack-squat)

Active Mod Files:

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00  Skyrim.esm
01  Update.esm
02  Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.4a]
03  Dawnguard.esm
04  Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.4]
05  HearthFires.esm
06  Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.4]
07  Dragonborn.esm
08  Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.4a]
09  AzarHair.esm
0A  ApachiiHair.esm
0B  ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
0C  Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
0D  Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
0E  CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
0F  Moss Rocks.esp
10  Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
11  Blacksmithforge water fix HF.esp
12  FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp
13  CoT-WeatherPatch_NL3.esp
14  ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
15  No More Glowing Edges.esp
16  ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
17  Convenient Horses.esp
18  WetandCold.esp
19  Footprints.esp
1A  CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-40.esp
1B  Dead Body Collision.esp
1C  FootstepsSoundsOverhaul.esp
1D  Headtracking.esp
1E  CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp
1F  randomthunder.esp
20  Immersive NPC in the dark.esp
21  iHUD.esp
22  Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
23  Locational Damage.esp
24  Smoking Torches.esp
25  RaceMenuPlugin.esp
26  Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
27  FasterArrows.esp
28  FasterArrows100.esp
29  FasterArrows50.esp
2A  FasterArrows75.esp
2B  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
2C  Book Covers Skyrim.esp
2D  Immersive Interiors.esp
2E  RaceMenu.esp
2F  Clanking Armor.esp
30  SkyRe_Main.esp
31  Balanced_Magic.esp
32  Unique BOOZE Bottles.esp
33  RealisticWaterTwo.esp
34  Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
35  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp
36  OBIS.esp
37  Immersive Weapons.esp
38  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp
39  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp
3A  OBISDB.esp
3B  FaceMasksforNPC.esp
3C  Path of Shadows.esp
3D  Proper Aiming.esp
3E  ShoutCD.esp
3F  Archery Bleed Out Perk - SkyRe.esp
40  SkyUI.esp
41  Northborn Fur Hoods.esp
42  TheEyesOfBeauty.esp  [Version 9]
43  Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp
44  WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
45  WetandCold - Holidays.esp
46  Sneak Tools.esp
47  Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
48  Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
49  Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
4A  Ars Metallica.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
4B  Ars Metallica - Dawnguard.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
4C  Blacksmithforge water fix DG.esp
4D  Ars Metallica - Hearthfire.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
4E  RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
4F  TheChoiceIsYours.esp
50  Point The Way.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
51  SMIM-Merged-All.esp
52  RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
53  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp
54  Ars Metallica - Dragonborn.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
55  Populated Cities 2.esp
56  SkyRe_StandingStones.esp
57  CinematicFireFX.esp
58  Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
59  Grass_On_Steroids_SFO.esp
5A  SFO - Dragonborn.esp
5B  SkyRe_Races.esp
5C  RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp
5D  Immersive Battles.esp
5E  Blacksmithforge water fix DB.esp
5F  Immersive Travelers.esp
60  Blacksmithforge water fix Vanilla.esp
61  Immersive Dragonborn.esp
62  Immersive Patrols.esp
63  Immersive Mercenaries.esp
64  LIAT - Sounds.esp
65  TemptressVixen.esp
66  Immersive Dawnguard.esp
67  RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp
68  Run For Your Lives.esp  [Version 2.0.1]
69  RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp
6A  Immersive Brigands.esp
6B  SkyRe_Combat.esp
6C  LIAT - NPCs.esp
6D  TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
6E  Immersive Factions.esp
6F  Open Cities Skyrim.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
70  ReProccer.esp
71  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

My setup is out of the question, everything worked fine before because I used to play Skyrim in which I got it off piratebay. Guess what, the pirated one works. Now that I've spent 20+ USD on it (Legendary Edition btw), I'm gonna get it to work.

I've done all I know and all I could find, other threads are not helping me at all.

Any help, advice or - hell, get right to the solution, that'd be bloody awesome.

salawow · July 9, 2014

You said you tried running skyrim without mod and vanilla skyrim. Do you mean you still crash near whiterun even without any mods ?

Edit: Just saying, when posting here you should not mention how you were playing before "buying" the game, and of course avoid mentioning where you got it, if you catch my meaning

Edited July 9, 2014 by salawow

Politrix · July 9, 2014

Yes it still crashes even when I'm running vanilla. I've uninstalled and downloaded Skyrim through Steam multiple times and still, no prevail. However, it is a little more stable when running vanilla, it crashes less often but hey, I need my mods man.

Besides vanilla, I've tried ONLY having RealVision ENB installed, same thing happens. I tried every other mods BESIDES Realvision ENB, still happens.

Very odd thing I forgot to point out, it only crashes around Whiterun, no where else.

salawow · July 9, 2014

hmm that's very strange. If it crashes even in vanilla without any mods (assuming that you mean no mods, no modification to .ini, no skse, fresh install with no remaining texture, scripts, etc, from previous mods that stayed, absolutely nothing except official/vanilla stuff) you might try asking in the technical support forum instead of mod troubleshooting, since it's clearly not mod related.

What is your PC configuration ?

Politrix · July 9, 2014

It crashes in vanilla, but not very frequent. Especially at the outskirts (Pelagia Farm, Honningbrew Meadery).

I'm not sure what you mean by PC configuration, my specs?

salawow · July 9, 2014

Yes specs, sorry. I'm used to say "configuration" on french forums.

Politrix · July 9, 2014

Display & Sound:

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Politrix · July 9, 2014

Alright salawow I gotta get some sleep, man. Its 4 a.m. here and I gotta get to work at 12.

I will check back after 20 hours, perhaps?

salawow · July 9, 2014

Since you have a radeon 79xx, i assume the rest of your hardware is way more than enough to run skyrim. However it seems your graphic card drivers are very much out of date, updating it would definetly be a good thing. http://support.amd.com/en-us/download

If updating the drivers doesn't fix it, i can't realy help more. I would say hardware failure, bad memory, etc, but the fact that it ONLY crash near whiterun kinda drag the problem out of a hardware problem. I hope someone else can help more.

Ball11 · July 10, 2014

I would suggest SSME http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50305/? and get rid of Safety load if you have it.

Second I would suggest you do load order in this order, LOOT>Wrye Bash>SUM.jar (Skyproc patchers)

Note, when ever you verify cache threw steam you need to clean Update.esm and DLC esms again.

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