Super-unable to alter GRASS draw distance and Lod distance

[tmavomodry]

I´ve spent more than 1 week of trying to figure out where the heck could be the problem. I installed Oblivion (clean and fresh install, I even followed bbens reinstall procedure to make it super-clean) and wanted to use either ooo or fcom superpack. The thing is that even after using some texture packs and stuff, I am simply unable to change the distance this AWKWARD grass pops out of nowhere and also this super awkward landscape changes every 100 or something metres of walking. i am going crazy, its the only thing preventing me from playing. By the way, few years back I had Ooo running well and with beautiful graphics, qtp redimized textures and excellent drawing distance. Now after years, on the same computer - even after changing values in ini file, there is literally NO change. What am I doing wrong? In the ini file, I can type grass distance 500 or 8000 - nothing happens. I was considering using RAEVWD, but I am affraid my computer is too slow for that.
please help, this is just so so making me mad.

[MotoSxorpio]

C:\Users\***YOURUSERNAME HERE***\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Oblivion.ini. Open in notepad. Find the following and tweak til you break it. :)

 

 

[Grass]

iMinGrassSize=120

fGrassEndDistance=8000.0000

fGrassStartFadeDistance=7000.0000

bGrassPointLighting=0

bDrawShaderGrass=1

iGrassDensityEvalSize=2

iMaxGrassTypesPerTexure=6

fWaveOffsetRange=1.7500

fGrassWindMagnitudeMax=125.0000

fGrassWindMagnitudeMin=5.0000

fTexturePctThreshold=0.3000

[tmavomodry]

thank you, but - the problem is, i´ve already tried to change these settings, in both in game folder oblivion.ini and my doccuments folder oblivion.ini - there is literaly no change - i could type any number - in game, i can see no change. not a single stem of grass loading differently. thats what is bothering me. could it be some mod doing this?..

[discovery1]

First of all, never change the ini back up folder only the documents/games one.

Please post your spec an load order and i will look at it

[Deleted3619564User]

You can alter the grass distance in the ini but the values work only in the normal lod. Oblivion doesn't render the grass on the distant lod. You can do it in Skyrim but not in Oblivion.

[DrakeTheDragon]

If it was working fine in the past, as told in the OP, I doubt it's to do with LOD or not. I know there's mods able to change those ini settings on-the-fly while ingame though, and we might need to know if you're perhaps using one of them.

The first one coming to mind would be "Streamline", as it was made specifically to do that and make your game run smoother depending on load and frame rate by sacrificing quality and details. But I'm not sure it's the only one like that.

 

I'm not sure what's included in this FCOM Superpack or if you're even using it already, but if you are, your troubles could be caused by this already. Last time I checked it wasn't exactly a welcome topic around here.

[Deleted3619564User]

The path for generating the grass is only linked inside the terrain meshes and textures of the normal lod. In the landscape textures, there isn't the grass path. There is no way to tell Oblivion to render the grass on the landscape because it is not supported. You can extend the distance of grass but not over the distant lod. That's a hardcoded limitation.

[tmavomodry]

hi there again everyone and thank you again. i am sorry to reply so slowly, but i am not at home on my computer now (will be in a few days). i will try to post my load order here but - you can see the load order when you look up original fcom superpack forums. as far as i know, the latest version (that one i am using) should be without the Streamline mod, so i guess its something different. something must have gone wrong, because as i wrote before - few years ago, i had similiar situation. i started to play Oblivion and was not satisfied with the grass and stuff popping out of nowhere - i was then looking for some mods etc and started to play with OOO - i can remember that i was looking for the ways how to alter the grass/lod/distant lod distances and - yes, i was able to do it somehow though i can´t really remember how i did that - i don´t know if it was in OOO or in something else. but - i can remember that everything was wonderful, grass loading far away, very dense, graphics looking great.. now with fcom superpack, its like walking back 10 years back in graphics. and the last "stroke" for me was when i was trying to install everything with OOO - and found out that after "succesful instalation" of OOO, literally nothing has changed - not even the space on my harddrive!! something is really screwed with Oblivion on my computer.. but hey, i think i had some old screenshots of than-working Oblivion, i think i will dig it up somewhere and compare.

[Deleted3619564User]

Try to delete the oblivion.ini from the mygames/oblivion folder. Don't touch the oblivion.ini in the install folder! Oblivion will recreate the file on next start. Set the video option and try again. Disable streamline if you have it because streamline changes the parameters in the ini file and even if you disable it in a second moment, your parameters are changed in the ini file. Anyway you cannot extend the grass over the distant lod. Do you know what is the normal lod and the distant lod?

[tmavomodry]

hi there again, i am home. i will try to do it today (deleting ini in my doccuments), but i guess its something other in fcom superpack doing this - there is no trace of streamline in my oblivion folder. and about the different lods - i guess i get the difference between normal/distant lod, but anyway - i can remember clearly that there was the way how to change it. at least to a point there is nothing like this weird terrain loading 200 meters away from me - that completely kills the immersion for me. if nothing works, i will try fresh and clean install today and with only Oscuros overhaul. i hope i will fix it somehow..