MysteriousSquall Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Hey Kreyd, DId you use Live Another Life mod to start a new game and head to BFB to see if the crash was persisting or did you just load your game back up and try on the same save? Because if it's the latter then the script that was causing the issue is still running in the save game. This problem is one I'm seeing popping up a lot today. The problem is the 2 NPCs upon entering Bleakfalls Barrow. As soon as you enter a script runs to make them start talking to each other, it's not a random conversation like the ones you hear in regular forts and such, its the same one every time you enter. The game isn't finding the files required for them to initiate and that's most likely causing the CTD. Remove any all NPC changing Mods, Start a New Game, Head to BFB and try entering. Let us know if it works. You can always re-enable the mods after you've done BFB. MS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilibran Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Skyrim can be weird, if you crash entering caves or dungeons try the console. look up the coc locationcode for the location you crash. Use it and see if you still crash. For bleak falls barrows i think it is: ~coc bleakfallsbarrow01 That should port you right inside close or next to the entrance. exit to Skyrim through the door and go back in. 80% chance you wont crash this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalftw Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 You might give this a try as well as the above.http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/52363/? I did some binging and found others having this problem,one had a mod that changed the bats and birds in his game,the other had a lighting mod that caused,he believed,his problem.Real lighting i think it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreyd Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) Hey Kreyd, DId you use Live Another Life mod to start a new game and head to BFB to see if the crash was persisting or did you just load your game back up and try on the same save? Because if it's the latter then the script that was causing the issue is still running in the save game. This problem is one I'm seeing popping up a lot today. The problem is the 2 NPCs upon entering Bleakfalls Barrow. As soon as you enter a script runs to make them start talking to each other, it's not a random conversation like the ones you hear in regular forts and such, its the same one every time you enter. The game isn't finding the files required for them to initiate and that's most likely causing the CTD. Remove any all NPC changing Mods, Start a New Game, Head to BFB and try entering. Let us know if it works. You can always re-enable the mods after you've done BFB. MS. Hi, i had Quick start mod instaled when i first started the game, but no quest was trigering after my character creation, so i uninstaled it and started a whole new game with the Helgen intro without any problems.Quickstart mod is just a .esp i don't think there any remain of it since i started a whole new game.I believe it's the NPC conversation, i have a lot of mods that had/change NPC commentary etc, im gonna check that. Edited July 31, 2014 by Kreyd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreyd Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) Skyrim can be weird, if you crash entering caves or dungeons try the console. look up the coc locationcode for the location you crash. Use it and see if you still crash. For bleak falls barrows i think it is: ~coc bleakfallsbarrow01 That should port you right inside close or next to the entrance. exit to Skyrim through the door and go back in. 80% chance you wont crash this time.I tried to port in via the console, i crashed right after 5sec of loading, exact same thing as if i try to enter normaly, do"t worked. You might give this a try as well as the above.http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/52363/? I did some binging and found others having this problem,one had a mod that changed the bats and birds in his game,the other had a lighting mod that caused,he believed,his problem.Real lighting i think it was. Thank you, i cleaned my save i did some search too ^^, but that changed nothing :sad: I also tried to disable : Climat Of tamariel / Sound Of Skyim / enhanced lightning without any result. Edited July 31, 2014 by Kreyd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindingSaint Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) hi all i myself have the same problem posted by Kreyd and its been driving me insane for the past 3 days :blink: i look foward to any progress on this issue and am willing to commit to solving it gonna try some of the methods posted here to see if it works :/ Edit= i try to coc into bleak falls barrow only to insta crash upon arrival ughhhhhhhhh what is going on here ??? O_o at this rate i might just have to put skyrim down and i dont wanna do that :( Edited July 31, 2014 by BlindingSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalftw Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) @KreydVery weird,i've run out of ideas except trying a new game without mods and if you can successfully finish Bleak Falls slowly start adding your mods back. Edited July 31, 2014 by gandalftw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalftw Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) hi all i myself have the same problem posted by Kreyd and its been driving me insane for the past 3 days :blink: i look foward to any progress on this issue and am willing to commit to solving it gonna try some of the methods posted here to see if it works :/ Edit= i try to coc into bleak falls barrow only to insta crash upon arrival ughhhhhhhhh what is going on here ??? :blink: at this rate i might just have to put skyrim down and i dont wanna do that :sad:Hi,You might post your Loot or Boss load order to see if you both have any mods in common. Edited July 31, 2014 by gandalftw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindingSaint Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) IGNORE the WARNINGS on the mains i just verified the cache and now their dirty again :( Summary Details Filters The LOOT Report requires Javascript to be enabled in order to function. Skyrim.esm CRC: C665FD56 Update.esm CRC: E5B67BDA Delev, Relev Warning: Contains 92 ITM records and 3 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit. Dawnguard.esm CRC: BD72CCF3 Delev, Relev Warning: Contains 619 ITM records, 82 UDR records and 57 deleted navmeshes. Clean with TES5Edit. HearthFires.esm CRC: AF82CE6A Warning: Contains 184 ITM records, 11 UDR records and 5 deleted navmeshes. Clean with TES5Edit. Dragonborn.esm CRC: A9F83BFF Warning: Contains 61 ITM records, 8 UDR records and 1 deleted navmeshes. Clean with TES5Edit. Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm CRC: FE33A011 ApachiiHair.esm CRC: 783F7167 Version: 1.4 ApachiiHairMales.esm CRC: 5A7E5A9B Version: 1.1 SPERG.esm CRC: C5FDC322 SPIKE.esm CRC: 418D8B2F HighResTexturePack01.esp CRC: D596F02A HighResTexturePack02.esp CRC: D596F02A HighResTexturePack03.esp CRC: D596F02A ABT - Kevkas All-in-One.esp CRC: 9F4E1A77 Nausicaa's Tweaker.esp CRC: E9D5C12B NB-Scars.esp CRC: 8A54FBB8 AMatterOfTime.esp CRC: 70774764 Version: 2.00 Chidori.esp CRC: E107005E AncientDBarmorTSedition.esp CRC: 7DDB2E8A BloodthirstVampireFeeding.esp CRC: FC7505A4 Iridum Eyes NRT.esp CRC: BEE6B624 AutoPV.esp CRC: 35E535D1 CharGen ECE Morphs.esp CRC: 99152715 ArmorOfIntrigue.esp CRC: E39371FC GrassOnSteroids_NaturalEdition_Vanilla.esp CRC: F105239A Behemoth Dragon.esp CRC: F888A494 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp CRC: B64060CA AlexScorpion's SnakeBow.esp CRC: 6A9BC6AF Berserk Greatsword.esp CRC: 67DE92E1 The Coenaculi.esp CRC: B8A1B801 ERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI Dawnguard&Dragonborn.esp CRC: 3B6F9374 BloodmoonRising.esp CRC: FE91EDCA FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp CRC: 9EA95771 Big N Maru.esp CRC: 39E12A67 Beards.esp CRC: 85B4CEFA Version: 28363 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp CRC: 4B399546 Exhaustion.esp CRC: 44C1C344 Version: 1.0 Blindfolds_of_Skyrim.esp CRC: FE0FA5D6 FantasySoundtrackProjectCombatMusic.esp CRC: AE7F72C0 NPCWaterAIScripted.esp CRC: 74155306 CharGen Morphs.esp CRC: 99152715 Brawl Bugs CE.esp CRC: D284ACF BVFE_Serana.esp CRC: 32C2B7DF AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp CRC: A6C0975C Delev, Relev Brows.esp CRC: 767A76B7 Version: 30411 Archer's.esp CRC: 8CF9A251 FantasySoundtrackProject.esp CRC: 1797ABCC dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp CRC: 7AFD4E3E dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp CRC: FE5C3763 ISCompendium Enhanced Blood Patch.esp CRC: C7879A1B Differently Ebony.esp CRC: 4DEB61E7 DreamBurrowPatchWorkMaiden.esp CRC: A337F038 Rough Leather Armor.esp CRC: E4402666 Hecatic.esp CRC: 1D898B8 KTABladeOfWoe.esp CRC: 412927F9 SPERG-DB.esp CRC: 1AB251B5 Dragon Stalking Fix.esp CRC: C7D11337 BanditsEyepatch.esp CRC: 43DE0DBC enbweather.esp CRC: CAD85290 Duel - Combat Realism.esp CRC: E33CC3F Echizen.esp CRC: DD53CD3 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp CRC: BD421FB8 Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function. EnhancedLightsandFX.esp CRC: 2F172642 TheHermit.esp CRC: 4225D634 Book Covers Skyrim.esp CRC: 1CE77CE7 Book Covers Hearthfire.esp CRC: EAC44C43 ELFX - Dragonborn.esp CRC: DB9BE7F9 Book Covers Dragonborn.esp CRC: 959B600F ELFX - Dawnguard.esp CRC: 8692787A Complete Solitude.esp CRC: 96AE7B18 SoS - The Wilds.esp CRC: 49F5E301 Version: 1.13 Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes. Extra Scars.esp CRC: 895849FB Facelight.esp CRC: 322DCCD9 FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp CRC: 69A3AD0D hearthfiresupplies.esp CRC: 4A6C3574 HarvestOverhaul.esp CRC: 8FBB155E Version: 2.8.2 Height Adjusted Races with True Giants.esp CRC: F9184B91 Version: 6 Note: Use only one Height Adjusted Races*.esp. DeadlyMutilation.esp CRC: 5D0C081A NonEssentialChildren.esp CRC: BAE841DB [object Object] FFS-Accolade.esp CRC: 1F45C630 FNISSexyMove.esp CRC: 41D8BB0E Bandanas of Skyrim.esp CRC: CFC694E1 BerserkJudeauArmor.esp CRC: FBFB13C7 Headtracking.esp CRC: 2856EB9F iHUD.esp CRC: 6633B25E Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp CRC: 3FDF44A0 SPERG-DG.esp CRC: 81FC37D9 Improved Dragon Shouts.esp CRC: B4503AC0 Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp CRC: 152A17E2 Destructible_bottles.esp CRC: DF07E0DF DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp CRC: 906C6F7B dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp CRC: BD9E96A1 The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp CRC: 7BD9FF9 Version: 1.8 Iridum Eyes X-race Patch.esp CRC: C0C807C5 WATER.esp CRC: 876CFA58 Version: 2.0 ISD_LongclawCraft.esp CRC: EAEF8CC No More Glowing Edges.esp CRC: 7A3923E6 PerksUI.esp CRC: E46CB505 RaceMenu.esp CRC: 2765B7D0 RaceMenuPlugin.esp CRC: 8A8A009F Note: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author. RutahTattooPack.esp CRC: 154C2EC1 RV markers.esp CRC: C4DAB9BD Version: 1.7 Supreme Storms.esp CRC: 5EDCD0EC ENB Snow FX.esp CRC: 2650E28A Version: 1.0 skyrim performance animation.esp CRC: 679CBD39 SkyUI.esp CRC: 9330CAF7 Version: 4.1 DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp CRC: DF2B11C Customizable Camera.esp CRC: 42519969 SoS - Civilization.esp CRC: 5EF1D362 Version: 1.02 Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes. StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp CRC: 7985AB43 Better Vampires ML.esp CRC: 5D36FA91 Note: Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function. TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp CRC: AAEE23BF Colorful_Magic.esp CRC: 6C10003B Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp CRC: 4FD63CD3 Version: 2 AelaSylvanMK.esp CRC: 780DCBF5 Dead Body Collision.esp CRC: B8B71CA1 enchantingsupplies.esp CRC: DC3D5D68 SoS - The Dungeons.esp CRC: 79377267 Version: 1.23 Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes. Civil War Repairs.esp CRC: 28840D9 WATER DB Waves.esp CRC: 77EF72E9 Version: 2.0 FS_UltimateAssortment.esp CRC: DDBEC894 OnePieceX.esp CRC: 794139AC Populated Dungeons Caves Ruins.esp CRC: 48675617 Run For Your Lives.esp CRC: B7BAFE68 Version: 2.0.3 LC_immersiveLoot.esp CRC: C67CCB24 Immersive Patrols II.esp CRC: 78F7FB96 NorthernCardinal.esp CRC: A920DBC4 HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp CRC: E867E51C Version: 2.8.2 hassildor.esp CRC: B9479B47 Book Covers Dawnguard.esp CRC: CEB1E127 Marriable Serana.esp CRC: 3570F88C Version: 1.6.2 Spousetocustomhome.esp CRC: FE27B2DF craftersmight.esp CRC: BA6BCFCE Marriable Serana HF.esp CRC: 9610632B Version: 1.6.2 Ducks and Swans.esp CRC: 3E00625 Inigo.esp CRC: ADFCDCEE SofiaFollower.esp CRC: 115E875A Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp CRC: 1F2F5FA TheMadMasker.esp CRC: A9E990AB Version: 2.2 HoldBorderBanners.esp CRC: 81A20CA2 garm_white.esp CRC: D627FEEE AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp CRC: D6C72A3C 1nivWICCloaks.esp CRC: 6B6B803A Version: 2.3 Relev valkyrja.esp CRC: 18560CEB Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp CRC: BFFD9BFF CWRS.esp CRC: AC642289 isilNarsil.esp CRC: A601BBB6 BlockSparkles.esp CRC: 7EA628AA chfshImbuedSword.esp CRC: 520F7CA1 Blades Hakama.esp CRC: 3C3370C1 private_nokillblur_test.esp CRC: 7796719D smithingsupplies.esp CRC: 3FB6D6ED R18pn - Shanoa Armors.esp CRC: 1D0B11AB FNISspells.esp CRC: 4F3339DE My Home Is Your Home.esp CRC: 4B2AEB Version: 1.21 CPaltmerfollower.esp CRC: 6809CA25 Contractor Armor.esp CRC: F51DC0DD PullMastry.esp CRC: BDD7653D Version: 2.02 dovahkiinrelax.esp CRC: CCD13DD SPERG.esp CRC: DD17CD3E SPERG Weapon Styles.esp CRC: 915A1860 StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp CRC: FBFBE09C StormLord.esp CRC: CCBFC7A5 towConversation.esp CRC: D43D74FE Travel Attire.esp CRC: 43ABC547 Venus.esp CRC: 1A555231 warchiefarmor.esp CRC: 77818C87 WarchiefsMight.esp CRC: F19B9C61 WATER DG.esp CRC: 82F847B6 Version: 2.0 WetandCold.esp CRC: BEAB0A2F Version: 1.422 WetandCold - Ashes.esp CRC: 1510365E Version: 1.09 When Vampires Attack.esp CRC: 5A2E37CC Version: 2.0.2 WSBP - OriFemale.esp CRC: E8B21780 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp CRC: 3A1B4F20 Version: 2.4.1 Version Information LOOT Version 0.6.0 Masterlist Updating Enabled Masterlist Revision 5c4837fbc Masterlist Date 2014-07-29 Plugin & Message Counts Active Plugins 171 Dirty Plugins 4 Total Plugins 174 Warnings 4 Errors 0 Total Messages 15 General Messages Note: There have been no changes in the Details tab since LOOT was last run for this game. Note: Latest LOOT thread. Note: Your SKSE is up-to-date. Note: It appears you have Fores New Idles in Skyrim installed. Remember to run GenerateFNISforUsers.exe every time you have installed or de-installed FNIS, or a FNIS based mod. here is my LOOT order ignore the 4 warnings I recently did the intergirity cache and now the mains are dirty again also it didnt work :sad: Edited July 31, 2014 by BlindingSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreyd Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) OK i tried MysteriousSqual solution with Alternate start 4 times ( all my mods enable and then disable ) on a fresh/new save im still crashing entering the dungeon, quest taken or not. I think i will uninstall everything and start a new game... cause yesterday i was digging and it seem's that many people had this problem, but there is no solution in a any thread, i suppect that people just surrender or clean their game and totaly restart. Edited July 31, 2014 by Kreyd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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