Toaster621 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 I really dont know what to say. The only threads I can find on this issue date all the way back to Oblivion. No matter how many times I overwrite my load order with BOSS output, Wyre Bash vomits out this error, claiming that "Plugins cannot be loaded before masters" Originally it would then freeze. I looked at my load order and saw for some incomprehensible reason that the unnoficial patches were wedging themselves between hearhfires and dragonborn, so I temporarily deleted them. now Wyre bash gets the same error, but crashes instead of freezing. Here is the load order that boss gives me. Not all these mods are actually active, but the majority are. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm ApachiiHair.esm ClimatesOfTamriel.esm ETaC - RESOURCES.esm GeneralStores.esm GeneralDisplays.esm GeneralDisplays - DG.esm GeneralDisplays - DB.esm Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm pinewoodvillage.esm SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm Society of Merchants.esm RSkyrimChildren.esm Chesko_Frostfall.esp Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp SplashofRain.esp Clanking Armor.esp Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp becomeaskilltrainer.esp Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Craftable and Placeable Havok-enabled Bedrolls .esp Dual Sheath Redux.esp farmeve.esp FishingInSkyrim.esp GiveGiftstoNPCs-voiced.esp ImprovedFishBASIC.esp itsatrap!.esp LBInteriorDecorating.esp skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp SleepingDangers-SandsofTime.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp Unique BOOZE Bottles.esp WetandCold.esp WetandCold - Ashes.esp whistle.esp Character Creation Overhaul.esp Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp SkyUI.esp iHUD.esp Armored_Rings1.esp ArmorOfIntrigue.esp Berserk Greatsword.esp BoundArmors.esp Cloaks.esp Dark Souls Weapons.esp Dark Souls Set 01.esp Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp FantasyWeapons.esp Haytham Kenway Apparel.esp HellionArrows_v1.2.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp HunterArcherCuirass.esp InsanityMask.esp iorvethlightarmor_v_1_3.esp LSB_BattleHammersV6.esp PIVariety.esp Scoiatael Weapons.esp SwordsmansCoat.esp Throwing_Weapons_Redux.esp UNP Jewelry Variants V3.esp UNP Boots 04.esp DeadlyDragons.esp SkyRe_Main.esp SkyRe_Combat.esp SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp SkyRe_StandingStones.esp SkyRe_Survivalism.esp Unique Uniques.esp AdalMatar.esp Akaviri Military Camps.esp quest_andtherealmsofdaedra.esp Antennaria.esp bardscollegewithoutfix.esp Briar'sEndNoQuest.esp CZHCAD.esp CZHCAD_DG.esp CZHCAD_HF.esp DA_Skyship.esp Dice Game in Taverns.esp ElysiumEstate.esp ElysiumEstate-DG.esp ElysiumEstate-HF.esp ElysiumEstate-DB.esp flaho_shi_eagles_nest_ENG.esp Hunting in Skyrim.esp Inconsequential NPCs.esp Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp KamiTH.esp KORsHuntingGround.esp mannyWallOfSkyrim.esp quest_nomercy.esp Northern Bathhouses.esp OBIS.esp OBISDB.esp quest_pitfighter.esp quest_pitfighter_dlc01.esp PostOffice.esp quest_sorcery.esp Reaper's Landscape - The Dead Forest.esp RiversideRanchELIANORASEPICFLAVOUR.esp SC08WayshrineSkyrim.esp quest_seaofghosts.esp Society of Merchants Finalized.esp Society of Merchants Plaza Package.esp Society of Merchants Shop Package.esp Society of Merchants SurvivalsG Package.esp SolitudeSKY.esp Sutvaka2.esp quest_thebiggertheyare.esp TheDomain.esp TheFrontier.esp Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp TowersFlags.esp travelhouse.esp whiterunMarket.esp WhiterunFortified.esp WhiterunREVISION.esp RRBetterWhiterunInt.esp YourMarketStall.esp Zamfir's Archery Emporium.esp BinocularVisionForNPCs while Sneaking.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp HelmetToggle2.02b.esp Mercy.esp Skyrim Unlimited Rings And Amulets.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Complete Solitude.esp Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp ETaC - Dawnstar.esp ETaC - Dawnstar LoS Patch.esp ETaC - Dragon Bridge.esp ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp ETaC - Falkreath.esp ETaC - Ivarstead.esp ETaC - Ivarstead LoS Patch.esp ETaC - Kynesgrove.esp ETaC - Riverwood.esp ETaC - Rorikstead.esp ETaC - Rorikstead LoS Patch.esp ETaC - Morthal.esp ETaC - Morthal LoS Patch.esp Helgen Reborn.esp Pinewood Village.esp RiftenThiefEdition.esp Solitude A City Of Trade.esp WHITEX.esp DawnofWindhelm.esp Populated Cities 2.esp BFT Ships and Carriages.esp SkyrimSewers.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-6.esp Drink Eat Sleep.esp Predator Vision.esp ToL_Core_by_Brevi.esp ToL_SKSE_by_Brevi.esp BloodmoonRising.esp Random Vampire Attacks in Towns Disabled.esp Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp Colorful_Magic.esp HitStop.esp MaximumDrive.esp SmartCast_1_0.esp ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp ForgottenMagic_Redone_SkyRePatch.esp NoSneakAttackSound.esp Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp Dodge Mod.esp The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp TKRecoil.esp ArcheryDummyXP.esp Sneak Tools.esp Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp zzzSXP.esp Dovahkiin prayer.esp FAMP2.esp Pouncer.esp Sundys_Male_Presets.esp 3DNPC.esp RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp RND_ETaC-Patch.esp RND_USKP-Patch.esp RND_FAMP.esp RND_ETaC-FAMP.esp RND_USKP-FAMP.esp EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp SkyRe_Races.esp ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp EEO patch.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp GreenWaterFix_v2withDawnguard.esp SkyRe_FAMP.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp ASIS-Dependency.esp ASIS.esp Pre ReProccer IA7 Patch.esp ReProccer.esp SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp Immersive Patrols II.esp LootandDegradation.esp SolitudeTheLuckySkeeverHome.esp Toxicity.esp UltimateDragons.esp Tes Arena - Skyrim Frontier Fortress.esp Contrasty.esp ETaC - Winterhold.esp KWNordicKukri-0.91.esp ScopedBows.esp SleepTight.esp ValiantNordBow.esp HeadBobbing.esp Immersive NPC in the dark.esp KTgold0.01.esp WetandCold - Holidays.esp Ayfertehuis.esp blue bear lodge.esp ETaC - Dawnstar WC Holidays Patch.esp ETaC - Karthwasten.esp ETaC - Falkreath WC Holidays Patch.esp ETaC - Karthwasten WC Holidays Patch.esp ETaC - Morthal WC Holidays Patch.esp ETaC - Riverwood 3DNPCs Patch.esp ETaC - Riverwood WC Holidays Patch.esp ETaC - Rorikstead WC Holidays Patch.esp Post ReProccer IA7 Patch.esp ShiverFrostCottage.esp ETaC - Dragon Bridge WC Holidays Patch.esp BanneredMareOverhaul.esp BelethorsGeneralGoodsUpgraded.esp BosmericDrunkenHuntsmanReborn.esp Post Reproccer ScopedBows Patch.esp RealWarMaiden.esp AlternativeCraftingSystem.esp CeltickAlchemyLab.esp CelticMusic.esp dwrsp.esp Enchanting Pagan Table.esp Order My Items.esp SolitudeCapitalEdition.esp AncientElvenDagger.esp BHTNF_Eli.esp ElvenRetreat.esp EnchantedArsenal.esp ETaC - Dawnstar SI Patch.esp ETaC - Winterhold LoS Patch.esp goldpiles.esp JK's Whiterun v0.1.esp JZBai_Hidespots.esp OBISCloaks&IA7.esp TheFountain.esp DarkerThanBlackMask.esp Magic of the Magna-Ge.esp MoonAndStar_MAS.esp RGMsVanityMirror.esp RSChildren - Complete.esp RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp The Vassal Skyrim.esp Withe01_MagicArts_Vanilla.esp JKs Whiterun.esp WindhelmFRGeneric.esp thebigbo_the_daed.esp I wish I could provide the actual error text from Wyre Bash, but after deleting the Unofficial Skyrim/Hearthfire/Dawnguard patches it literally crashes so fast that I cannot interact with the error output window. I have no idea where to go from here, and I can't find any answers on google. I completely wiped my base load order, then replaced it with a boss generated load order, then replaced it with my ModManager load order, but nothing at all seems to work.Please help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camaro_69_327 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 Try LOOT instead....its BOSS's big brother. Essentially the same but with a few major changes. No more UNrecognized plugins...Re-download all UNofficial patches, One way LOOT could get the load order wrong, is if you are actually missing Esm/p's that are needed. These would show up in Wrye as RED =missing masters. Try to Build the bashed patch....if plugins are out of order it will list them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toaster621 Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 Alright, Ill give that a shot and post my results, Part of the cause of this was my use of ModManager, which was so convenient I never really stopped to consider the implications of having to manage two different load orders. the one that I play with (mod manger) and the one all Skyrim utilities think i'm using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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