BloodStainedHands Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 I'm basically stuck in my current game due to an unavoidable crash - even if I just wait in my imperial city shack and wait, the CTD will occur at the same exact time, every time. Now if I toggle all scripts off with tscr, the game won't crash, but obviously that's no solution... Now I'm no expert by any means, but its time-sensitivity seems to point at some mod quest update/trigger for a new quest that is the culprit. Is there any way to see which scripts are currently running or single out and disable single scripts instead of them all? Or am I basically screwed, since disabling mods one by one is hardly an option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolfkai Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 I'm a layman here, but I think Wyre Bash has a conflict detector. The only way I know for sure is to methodically disable one mod at a time until you find the crashes stop, then you'll know which one it is. Did you add any mods recently btw? I'd start with those if you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodStainedHands Posted May 6, 2010 Author Share Posted May 6, 2010 Nope, they've been the same since I started this character... Doubt I'd even get the savegame to load if I were to disable some of them, so I'd really like an alternative method of dealing with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomlong54210 Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Nope, they've been the same since I started this character... Doubt I'd even get the savegame to load if I were to disable some of them, so I'd really like an alternative method of dealing with this.Disabling mods one by one works though. Whether or not you have changed your mod configuration does not matter. Your save game can probably still load without most of them. Usually, esms are the hardest things to disable, but you can usually use a dummy plugin to get around that. If you post your load order, someone might be able to narrow your search for you, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodStainedHands Posted May 6, 2010 Author Share Posted May 6, 2010 All I really need to know whether or not there is a functionality (either in the vanilla game or provided by some mod/script extension) that would allow me to see currently running scripts in-game; to try and pinpoint the one script that is causing this. If not, I'll just abandon the character entirely or load a save from waaaay back and try to dodge the issue. Up until now my load order has been stable enough for well over 80+ hours of total playtime; never had a consistent crash like this before. No way I'll disable these one by one: :tongue: Active Mod Files:00 Oblivion.esm01 GTAesgaard_2.esm02 Cybiades.esm [Version 2.0]03 Windfall.esm04 Jog_X_Mod.esm05 All Natural Base.esm [Version 0.9.8]06 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm07 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm08 Children Of Rourken.esm09 A_Bloody_Mess.esm0A Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]0B Qarls_Harvest.esm0C Ulrim's Horses.esm0D Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]0E Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b1]0F Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm10 TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]11 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7]12 Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.3]13 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm14 AFC v2 Core.esm15 Progress.esm [Version 2.2]16 The Other Spheres Base.esm17 CM Partners.esm18 HorseCombatMaster.esm19 UnnecessaryViolence.esm1A CLS-SneakyFeet.esm1B Lattamerv3.esm** TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp** TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp1C Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0]1D Atmospheric Oblivion.esp1E UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]1F Get Wet v0.92.esp20 DLCShiveringIsles.esp21 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]22 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp23 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp24 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp25 Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]26 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]27 Fran Armor Add-on.esp28 Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp** LoadingScreens.esp29 LoadingScreensAddOn.esp** LoadingScreensSI.esp2A All Natural - 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NPC Equip.esp [Version 1.2]++ FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp [Version 0.9.9]57 ExnemRuneskulls.esp++ FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9]58 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]59 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]** OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]++ FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]5A Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp5B FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]5C Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++ FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]5D Oblivion WarCry EV.esp5E FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9]5F Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]++ ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp [Version 1.3]++ ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp [Version 1.3]60 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9]++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]61 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]62 FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9]++ FCOM_NoAdventurersInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9]63 CurseOfHircine.esp++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b1]64 Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b1]65 Mart's Monster Mod - 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Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 0.9.8]DE Ranokoas City Stealth Exits.esp [Version 2.2]DF Darkbrotherhood.espE0 LoadingScreenQuotes.espE1 lumi_enchantments_subtle.espE2 tda_Armoury.espE3 Chinese Weapons.espE4 AkaviriSamuraiShop.espE5 Scarves!.espE6 Elwing.espE7 Travelers Inns.espE8 GP_Call Steed.espE9 Better Hand to Hand LITE.esp++ EDI - Aggression Fix.espEA TOS - Prelude.espEB diversegrasses.espEC ImprovedSigns.espED Duke Patricks - Magic you can believe in.espEE kuerteeGoldIsAnInventoryItem.espEF Duke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrows Alert The Target.espF0 Expanded Hotkeys and Spell Delete v1.0.espF1 Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.espF2 Bashed Patch, 0.espF3 Streamline 3.1.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomlong54210 Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 You have a ton of mods that add scripts to a ton of things. I would start by targeting the player-focused scripts (i.e., Realistic Fatigue, Realistic Health, etc.) You should also check your OBSE log, in the Oblivion folder. Edit: Mods for Troubleshooting <-- you may want to check out ConScribe as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodStainedHands Posted May 8, 2010 Author Share Posted May 8, 2010 Well the logs didn't really reveal anything (thanks anyway Tom), but as an update of sorts to the situation, I've managed to narrow the reason for the CTD down a notch; it crashes only between 22:00 - 4:59. I can play completely fine prior and after that time, and wait/sleep during that period, but as soon as the clock hits 22:00 or I wait until 2:00 for example, I get an instant crash. And yeah I've tried skipping a whole day, but the same happens the next night, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slygothmog Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 Just seen you have moDems city life, this is known to cause problems if you have other mods that make significant changes to the waterfront.Deactivate city life and see what happens. This is just an idea and may not work but i hope it does help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argomirr Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 That sounds familiar. One of these:90 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.3] 91 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.1] 92 xulTheHeath.esp 93 XulEntiusGorge.esp 94 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1] 96 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp 97 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2] 98 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.2] 9A xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.1] 9B xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3] 9C xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.1] 9E xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6] 9F xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.1] A0 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.2] A1 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1] A3 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.2] A4 xulPantherRiver.esp A5 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.1] A6 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.0.2] A7 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.2] A8 xulBlackwoodForest.esp(not sure which one) is know to cause crashes between 22:00 and 5:00 in game. If I remember correctly, it enables some Will-o-the-Whisp refs during that period. There's something wrong with either the code or the creatures and that causes an instant crash. (Which explains why you can just sleep or wait - this script only runs in game mode.) Remove these plug ins and the crashing should stop. (You may only have to remove one, I think the others are fine.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodStainedHands Posted May 8, 2010 Author Share Posted May 8, 2010 That sounds familiar. (not sure which one) is know to cause crashes between 22:00 and 5:00 in game. If I remember correctly, it enables some Will-o-the-Whisp refs during that period. There's something wrong with either the code or the creatures and that causes an instant crash. (Which explains why you can just sleep or wait - this script only runs in game mode.) Remove these plug ins and the crashing should stop. (You may only have to remove one, I think the others are fine.) :wub: Looks like you were spot on - disabled the dark forest esp and no crashing so far. Sadly I don't know enough about TESCS to fix it, so removing the whole thing will have to do. Thanks a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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