tek5828 Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 Hey guys, I recently got a new PC, windows 7 ultimate 64bit12gb ddr3 1600mhz RAMXFX ATi 5870 gpuintel i7 960 (3.2)2x 7200rmp HDDetc i can run other hardware intensive games FINE!!i re-installed oblivion onto this pc, wthout mods i get 60FPS (max settings)but when i drag my data folder (backed up from old PC) onto the new install, run my old save with all mods, i get MAX 30fps (seems capped) and even as low as 18 fps!!! No graphic settings changes I tryed moving and installing mods 1 by 1 (proper install) and still same problem- The FPS with mods is similar to that of my old comp (nvidia 8600, 4gb ram, vista) even tho i have a new computer!! Can anyone help? Ill post my active mods, btw i use plugyy, obse and wyrebash [codebox]Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 ScreenEffects.esm 02 All Natural Base.esm [Version 0.9.9] 03 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] 04 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34] 05 cssBase.esm 06 CM Partners.esm 07 ShieldOnBack.esm 08 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0] 09 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] 0A DLCShiveringIsles.esp 0B Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0] 0C LoadingScreens.esp 0D All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 0.9.9] 0E All Natural.esp [Version 0.9.9] 0F All Natural - SI.esp [Version 0.9.9] 10 All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp [Version Final] 11 Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp 12 Adonnays Ranger Coats.esp 13 Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp 14 Pegasus.esp 15 RD-HeavensWrath-v1-1-Realistic.esp 16 Reznod_Mannequin.esp 17 Shield on Back 3.1.esp 18 Weapon Displays V1.9.esp 19 XTS-Merchant-Mod-V1.0.esp 1A StandingJOJO.esp 1B Crowded Roads Advanced.esp [Version 1.3] 1C Crowded Roads Advanced less crowded.esp [Version 1.3] 1D DLCHorseArmor.esp 1E DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 1F DLCOrrery.esp 20 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3] 21 DLCVileLair.esp 22 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 23 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 24 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 25 MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp 26 HGEC_special_armor_repl.esp 27 Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp 28 AW_Wings.esp [Version 1] 29 Afinity Sword.esp 2A Altessian.esp 2B Blackheart and Gizmodian ECRobes.esp 2C CapesandCloaks.esp 2D Fantasy Mod.esp 2E Lich King's Helm v1_0.esp 2F Morrigan Armor Set v1_0.esp 30 Morrigan Swords Axes and Shield by Jojjo v1_1.esp 31 New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp 32 Nicoroshi Creations DW Light.esp 33 Nicoroshi Creations DW heavy.esp 34 pale_rider's Paladin Equipment_enchanted_eng.esp 35 PerditionsEdge.esp 36 Sauron_Armor_Chest.esp 37 The Bow of the Mongolian Horseman.esp 38 Tyrael Armor.esp 39 Town_Ceremonial_Armor.esp 3A Thieves Arsenal.esp 3B NewbsArmoredRobes.esp 3C ExnemEC_Rogue01.esp 3D R18PN - Lingeries.esp 3E HRMHorseArmor.esp 3F MELF_HorseSanity.esp 40 AncientTowers.esp 41 DLCThievesDen.esp 42 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 43 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4] 44 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72] 45 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] 46 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34] 47 OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33] 48 OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp [Version 1.33] 49 OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp [Version 1.33] 4A OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp [Version 1.33] 4B OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34] 4C Nightshade_Armor.esp 4D aaaWindSpear.esp 4E 300_Akaviri_Stronghold.esp 4F Akaviri Imports.esp 50 Akaviri_Imports_Fixed_esp-4277.esp 51 ConLoBattleGenMod.esp 52 CastawayIsles.esp 53 Dwemer_Skyship_1_1_0.esp 54 GTAesgaard.esp 55 Kragenir's Death Quest.esp 56 KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp 57 MountainTower.esp [Version 6.0] 58 mrSiikas_DwemerTechnology_DwemerSubway.esp 59 Snow Dragon Temple v1.0.esp [Version 1.1] 5A za_bankmod.esp 5B DLCFrostcrag.esp 5C DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 5D Knights.esp 5E Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] 5F The Lost Spires.esp 60 Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp 61 ElsweyrAnequina.esp 62 mythsandlegends.esp 63 Castle_Seaview.esp 64 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0] 65 Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0] 66 DS Storage Sacks.esp [Version 1.21] 67 P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00] 68 Retros Fletching and Imbueing.esp 69 Unlimited Rings 1.0.esp 6A Unlimited Amulets 1.0.esp 6B Unlimited Amulets and Rings - Shivering Isles.esp 6C Advanced Mark & Recall.esp 6D Multiple Creature Summoning.esp 6E RD-HeavensWrath-v1-1-Easy.esp 6F MidasSpells.esp 70 Faster Spells.esp 71 RenGuardOverhaul.esp 72 RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp 73 'Eagle Eye' Realistic Archery v1.0 Fixed.esp 74 Oblivion XP.esp [Version 4.1.5] 75 CTAddPose_osr1.esp 76 CTAddPose_osr2.esp 77 CTAddPose_osr3.esp 78 actors_in_charge.esp 79 EFGAddPose.esp 7A Pose Thumbnail Poses 1.1.esp [Version 1.1] 7B _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp 7C _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp 7D Slof's Clouded Leopard.esp 7E Beautiful People.esp 7F CM Partners.esp 80 CM Partners NPC.esp 81 CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp 82 cssEdwin.esp [Version 1.0] 83 cssNalia.esp [Version 1.0] 84 cssSafana.esp [Version 1.0] 85 DARaewyn.esp 86 Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52] 87 DS Flaming Arrows.esp [Version 1.2] 88 ScreenControls.esp 89 Bashed Patch, 0.esp 8A CleanQuit.esp 8B Streamline 3.0.esp 8C LoadingScreenQuotes.esp 8D Droppable LitTorches 1.1.esp 8E KnightSlayerSet2.esp 8F ares.esp 90 The Bow of the Hunter.esp 91 Asian Race.esp 92 Blakeley's Lachrymal Bow.esp 93 Homes In Shivering Isles.esp [Version 1.0] 94 Nico's Quinga Bows.esp 95 JapHouseUpdateed.esp 96 Zira's Battle Horse Shop.esp 97 CTESpells.esp 98 ScenicLoadscreens.esp 99 MaGeSwOrDFIXED.esp 9A AL_AuroranBattleSteed.esp 9B AkaviriSamuraiShop.esp 9C ninja-armor.esp 9D Underworld Armor.esp 9E City in the sky.esp 9F AAfloating-home-1.esp A0 Blink.esp A1 Levelled_Resurrection_Spell-8428.esp A2 encumberance-modifier.esp A3 Megaspells.esp A4 light-companion.esp A5 Megamerchant.esp A6 trfjSolarisStaff.esp A7 trfjChronoStaff.esp A8 trfjBladeMasterSword.esp A9 trfjEmpireGreatsword.esp AA trfjEmpireLongsword.esp AB trfjSpiderGreatsword.esp AC Warglaives by Jojjo v1.0.SoB.esp AD ares-HGEC.esp AE Castle_Wolfspike.esp AF Blackheart and Gizmodian ECRobes Free Version.esp B0 Terimer.esp B1 Chin CatSuit.esp B2 Chain it!.esp B3 Tona's_ModsStore.esp B4 kgt_Aida.esp B5 Sinbloods_Nightweave_HGEC.esp B6 Ancient Elven Sorcerer - EV.esp B7 geechan_SimplePose.esp B8 cmOzz_shamikka.esp B9 PsychosDisrobeSpell.esp BA CompanionHorseSupport.esp BB CompanionHorseSupportFIX forCMPartners.esp BC R18PN - L.esp BD ScarletMonastery.esp BE Droppable Lit Torches v1.0.esp BF Nico's Dreadweave Bow and Arrows.esp C0 FearsomeMagicka.esp C1 1SB_PureFantasyMage_Outfits.esp C2 Ancient Elven Sorcerer - DV.esp C3 TGND - Sinblood's Fantasy Mage.esp C4 Patch-Wolfspike-UL.esp [/codebox] People on youtube have videos of oblivion max settings, and very intense texture replacers etc (motion blur, DOF) and get 40-60 fps too! on a lesser computer!! why do i get so poo fps? thankyou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomlong54210 Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 If they are inside maybe, but those stats are nearly impossible if they actually have a lot of texture replaces and mods installed with what the average consumer can afford. Get the sparkles out of your eyes and do not watch YouTube for stat information. Your load order is a mess. Load Ordering - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/finishinstall/loadorder <-- read all of it 7B _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp <-- install one or the other, not both7C _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp Another performance thread - http://thenexusforums.com/index.php?showtopic=201843 <-- read this after your LO is sorted Edit: Even if you get that thing sorted out, it is still a mess. You probably need to drop some mods. The issue is that you have a number of plugins that probably overlap with their changes. You need to remove the overlap. Also, replace Clean Quit with Fast Exit (version 2). You will find a link to it in that other thread on the "Stabilization Mods" page. You should go through all of the links I posted in that other thread, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tek5828 Posted May 8, 2010 Author Share Posted May 8, 2010 Dear Tom, Thankyou for your reply- Another thing to add in is i have 7000 units of gear in my inventory- I modded the encumbrance modifier so i have 12k weight carrying, aswell as TONS of items in inventory sacks So you think it might be my mod load order and overall unorganisednessss? Ill give the links a go thanks for your help again chugga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomlong54210 Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 Load order is very, very important. It can be the difference between the game crashing in a few seconds or playing for hours. You definitely need to organize it, and you should also analyze it for overlaps and conflicts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFact Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 And, Screen Effects can affect performance. Another thing is, Oblivion is not-so-well optimized game. When anything adds more actors(especially NPCs), you may see FPS drop when your character is by NPCs. When there're too many in one cell, severe performance hit and brain-dead actors(actors without AI processing) can be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tek5828 Posted May 9, 2010 Author Share Posted May 9, 2010 Thanks for the help guys heres a quick BOSS log- Master .ESM date: Sat Apr 01 02:22:00 2006 FCOM not detected. ------------------------------------ Recognised and re-ordered mod files: ------------------------------------ Oblivion.esm ScreenEffects.esm All Natural Base.esm Cobl Main.esm . Note: Do not use Tamrielic Ingredients and COBL at the same time. Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm cssBase.esm CM Partners.esm Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Climate,C.Light,C.Owner,Delev,Invent,Names,Relev,Stats,Relations}} and remove the C.Water tag. UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp . Note: Remember to use the 'MOBS' version when using Francesco's and FCOM. . Note: Newest MOBS and non-MOBS versions have the same name. . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Light,C.Owner,Invent,Names,Stats,Delev}} LoadingScreens.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics,NoMerge}} if using overhaul mods. All Natural - Real Lights.esp . Note: Do not use with original Real Lights mod. All Natural.esp . Note: Required for All Natural. . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Climate}} All Natural - SI.esp . Note: Required for All Natural SI support. . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Climate}} All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp . Note: Only use one All Natural weather plugin. Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp Adonnays Ranger Coats.esp Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp DS Storage Sacks.esp Pegasus.esp RD-HeavensWrath-v1-1-Realistic.esp Reznod_Mannequin.esp Shield on Back 3.1.esp Weapon Displays V1.9.esp XTS-Merchant-Mod-V1.0.esp Living Economy.esp . Note: Don't use 'Living Economy' and 'Living Economy - SI' together. Pick one. Living Economy - Items.esp Cutthroat Merchants.esp StandingJOJO.esp Crowded Roads Advanced.esp Crowded Roads Advanced less crowded.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Body-M,Graphics}} HGEC_special_armor_repl.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{Bash:Graphics}} Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp AW_Wings.esp Afinity Sword.esp Altessian.esp Blackheart and Gizmodian ECRobes.esp CapesandCloaks.esp Fantasy Mod.esp Lich King's Helm v1_0.esp Morrigan Armor Set v1_0.esp Morrigan Swords Axes and Shield by Jojjo v1_1.esp New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp Nicoroshi Creations DW Light.esp Nicoroshi Creations DW heavy.esp pale_rider's Paladin Equipment_enchanted_eng.esp PerditionsEdge.esp Sauron_Armor_Chest.esp The Bow of the Mongolian Horseman.esp Tyrael Armor.esp Town_Ceremonial_Armor.esp Thieves Arsenal.esp . Note: Requires OBSE. NewbsArmoredRobes.esp ExnemEC_Rogue01.esp R18PN - Lingeries.esp HRMHorseArmor.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics}} MELF_HorseSanity.esp AncientTowers.esp DLCThievesDen.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp Cobl Glue.esp Cobl Si.esp . Note: Requires Shivering Isles expansion. Cobl Tweaks.esp Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp OOO-Water_Weeds.esp OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp OOO-DLT_Remover.esp OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp OOO-WaterFish.esp Nightshade_Armor.esp aaaWindSpear.esp 300_Akaviri_Stronghold.esp Akaviri Imports.esp Akaviri_Imports_Fixed_esp-4277.esp ConLoBattleGenMod.esp CastawayIsles.esp Dwemer_Skyship_1_1_0.esp GTAesgaard.esp Kragenir's Death Quest.esp KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp MountainTower.esp mrSiikas_DwemerTechnology_DwemerSubway.esp Snow Dragon Temple v1.0.esp za_bankmod.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Owner}} DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp . Note: Possible conflict with Frostcrag Reborn. Do not use both or land tearing will occur. Knights.esp Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp The Lost Spires.esp Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp ElsweyrAnequina.esp . Note: Border region restrictions must be turned off: use Wrye Bash tweak, hand edit .ini file or use no-border mod (not recommended). mythsandlegends.esp . Note: May cause NPCs to generate the message "The ghosts mouth moves but you cannot hear what he says." Castle_Seaview.esp Harvest [Flora].esp Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp DS Storage Sacks.esp . Note: Requires COBL. P1DkeyChain.esp Retros Fletching and Imbueing.esp . Note: May not be compatible with MMM crafting - untested. Unlimited Rings 1.0.esp . Note: Use Wrye Bash Bashed Patch tweak instead. Unlimited Amulets 1.0.esp . Note: Use Wrye Bash Bashed Patch tweak instead. Unlimited Amulets and Rings - Shivering Isles.esp . Note: Use Wrye Bash Bashed Patch tweak instead. Advanced Mark & Recall.esp Multiple Creature Summoning.esp RD-HeavensWrath-v1-1-Easy.esp MidasSpells.esp Faster Spells.esp . Note: Use Wrye Bash Bashed Patch tweak instead where possible. RenGuardOverhaul.esp RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp 'Eagle Eye' Realistic Archery v1.0 Fixed.esp Oblivion XP.esp OOO-Level_Stock.esp CTAddPose_osr1.esp CTAddPose_osr2.esp CTAddPose_osr3.esp actors_in_charge.esp EFGAddPose.esp Pose Thumbnail Poses 1.1.esp DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Hair}} and deactivate. _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:NpcFaces,Hair,Eyes,Graphics}} Slof's Clouded Leopard.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:NpcFaces,Hair,Eyes,Graphics,R.Teeth,R.Relations}} Beautiful People.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:NpcFaces,Hair,Eyes,Graphics}} CM Partners.esp CM Partners NPC.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Hair,Eyes}} CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Hair,Eyes}} cssEdwin.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Hair,Eyes}} cssNalia.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Hair,Eyes}} cssSafana.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Hair,Eyes}} DARaewyn.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Hair,Eyes}} Cobl Races.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{Eyes, Hair, R.Relations, Voice-M, Voice-F}} OOO-Respawn_Year.esp DS Flaming Arrows.esp MotionBlur.esp . Note: Fix available for 'Over-Darkening' issue: http://tr.im/scy6 ScreenControls.esp Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp . Note: Make sure it is deactivated. Must be merged into Bashed Patch Bashed Patch, 0.esp CleanQuit.esp Streamline 3.0.esp . Note: Old. Update to 3.1 or later. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Unrecognised mod files: Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Unknown mod file: ShieldOnBack.esm Unknown mod file: LoadingScreenQuotes.esp Unknown mod file: Droppable LitTorches 1.1.esp Unknown mod file: KnightSlayerSet2.esp Unknown mod file: ares.esp Unknown mod file: The Bow of the Hunter.esp Unknown mod file: Asian Race.esp Unknown mod file: Blakeley's Lachrymal Bow.esp Unknown mod file: Homes In Shivering Isles.esp Unknown mod file: Nico's Quinga Bows.esp Unknown mod file: JapHouseUpdateed.esp Unknown mod file: Zira's Battle Horse Shop.esp Unknown mod file: CTESpells.esp Unknown mod file: ScenicLoadscreens.esp Unknown mod file: MaGeSwOrDFIXED.esp Unknown mod file: AL_AuroranBattleSteed.esp Unknown mod file: AkaviriSamuraiShop.esp Unknown mod file: ninja-armor.esp Unknown mod file: Underworld Armor.esp Unknown mod file: City in the sky.esp Unknown mod file: AAfloating-home-1.esp Unknown mod file: Blink.esp Unknown mod file: Levelled_Resurrection_Spell-8428.esp Unknown mod file: encumberance-modifier.esp Unknown mod file: Megaspells.esp Unknown mod file: UFF & RM Assassin Elite Armor.esp Unknown mod file: light-companion.esp Unknown mod file: Megamerchant.esp Unknown mod file: test.esp Unknown mod file: personal-stables.esp Unknown mod file: Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp Unknown mod file: trfjSolarisStaff.esp Unknown mod file: trfjChronoStaff.esp Unknown mod file: trfjBladeMasterSword.esp Unknown mod file: trfjEmpireGreatsword.esp Unknown mod file: trfjEmpireLongsword.esp Unknown mod file: trfjSpiderGreatsword.esp Unknown mod file: Warglaives by Jojjo v1.0.SoB.esp Unknown mod file: ares-HGEC.esp Unknown mod file: Castle_Wolfspike.esp Unknown mod file: Blackheart and Gizmodian ECRobes Free Version.esp Unknown mod file: Terimer.esp Unknown mod file: Chin CatSuit.esp Unknown mod file: Chain it!.esp Unknown mod file: Tona's_ModsStore.esp Unknown mod file: Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp Unknown mod file: kgt_Aida.esp Unknown mod file: Sinbloods_Nightweave_HGEC.esp Unknown mod file: Ancient Elven Sorcerer - EV.esp Unknown mod file: geechan_SimplePose.esp Unknown mod file: cmOzz_shamikka.esp Unknown mod file: PsychosDisrobeSpell.esp Unknown mod file: CompanionHorseSupport.esp Unknown mod file: CompanionHorseSupportFIX forCMPartners.esp Unknown mod file: R18PN - L.esp Unknown mod file: ScarletMonastery.esp Unknown mod file: Droppable Lit Torches v1.0.esp Unknown mod file: Nico's Dreadweave Bow and Arrows.esp Unknown mod file: FearsomeMagicka.esp Unknown mod file: 1SB_PureFantasyMage_Outfits.esp Unknown mod file: Ancient Elven Sorcerer - DV.esp Unknown mod file: TGND - Sinblood's Fantasy Mage.esp Unknown mod file: Patch-Wolfspike-UL.esp ----------------------------------------------------------- Done. 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bben46 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Having a huge inventory can slow things down. Especially when you open or close it. Oblivion was designed with a relatively small inventory in mind. Any time you do something with the inventory - or a companion does something with their stuff, the game has to go through the entire inventory list. So any script that checks inventory will take just a little longer to run. Offload anything you don't need immediately into a storage container and see if things don't speed up just a little. Keep the number of items in each container below 256 though as after that things start to vanish. They will reappear when the total drops so they really are not lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomlong54210 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 That is not your load order. Please post your LO with Wrye Bash. Also, since you do not yet know what you are doing, uninstall all of those unknowns. They are in the wrong place, and taking time to learn how to move them can be done after fixing your issues. Load Ordering - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/finishinstall/loadorder <-- for future reference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenrai Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Tom - BOSSlog = Load Order. Same thing, different name. However, I suspect the OP didn't download or at least didn't use the newest masterlist for BOSS. Because I'm pretty damn sure Shield on back is on there. Another thing he wants to look at is Streamline. That'll throttle higher end systems, rather than help. On that computer I'd loose that completely.I'd also take a long, hard look at tweakguides.com. Not specifically just for Oblivion, but if you ever want to run it even almost stable with that lot installed, you're gonna need some tweaking here and there. Other mods to watch out for that I noticed on there - Screen control and motion blur can also choke FPS (global changes are good at that). As can OOO Waterfish, but obviously that one only applies to cells with or adjacent to water. Basically Tek, reinstall, and start rebuilding your game mate. Play test thoroughly and keep in mind that 30FPS is actually faster than a Hollywood movie. You're not seeing low FPS. You're seeing transition periods between FPS rates and stuttering. BTW - reason your FPS was capped was likely streamline mate - By default it caps FPS at 30. Also - Halo 3 runs Capped permanently at 30 FPS. If you've ever played it you'll know that that's likely as fast as any game needs to run. Yes, you can go faster, which is usually only done for bragging rights and nothing more. Your games actually LOOSE functionality when you go much higher than that 60 FPS mark. There's only so much information a monitor can display at that rate, even the newer ones, and also only so much stuff your brain will take in.Oh, and make sure you remember to wipe your .ini if you reinstall.Remember not to install to the default directory on any operating system newer than windows XP. The UAC polices everything in the Program Files folder like no ones business.Also remember that where possible, graphics settings should be altered with your gpu's own control system, and not through the game menus. Good luck mate. Hope you get to where you want it.Jenrai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomlong54210 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 They are not the same thing. The BOSS Log pick up on all plugin in your load order whether they are installed or not. The BOSS Log is the timestamp sorted list of all of the plugins in your Data folder after BOSS tries to sort them. A load order is the timestamp ordered list of the plugins with content that will be loaded into the game (only active or pseudo-active plugins.) Anyway, I noticed the same thing you pointed out. I am sure that that mod is already included, and OOO-WaterFish indeed puts pressure on the CPU. Streamline helps if it is setup properly. Many users do not do that. There are plenty of high-end systems running SL. Tweakguides.com's Oblivion section is out of date. There are still some good tweaks, but many of them are obsolete and wrong since the 1.2.0416 patch release. SL.ini Tweaks - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/stabilization/streamlineOutdated Optimization - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/optimization/outdatedOblivion.ini Tweaks - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/stabilization/oblivionInstalling Oblivion - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/install You cannot really tell how that system can perform with that load list as it is. Edit: The other reason I ask for the LO with Bash is because it convey MUCH more information, especially when the user is using a bashed patch. Also, make sure that that version of HF you have installed is the latest stand alone version and not the version bundled with OOO. Replace Clean Quit with Fast Exit v2. (A link can be found on the "Stabilization Mods" page.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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