Oblivion to desktop hourly

[draevan13]

I've been trying to get Oblivion to run smoothly for some time now, but I'm still having hourly crashes while playing, and the game crashes every single time I exit.

I use BOSS for my mod load order and to detect dirty mods. I use Wrye Bash and TES4 Edit to clean said dirty mods and update the Bashed Patch, I install them all using NMM or OBMM. All the mods I have are the "Most endorsed" and "Top rated" mods from the Nexus site, not some random mod from the depths of the internet.

Yet I'm still getting hourly crashes to desktop.

I'm running Steam's Oblivion GOTY on an ASUS (M51AC-US006S) Desktop PC | Intel Core i5-4570 3.2Ghz, 8GB DDR3, 1TB HDD, DVDRW, NVidia GTX650 Graphics| Windows 8.

Here's my load order/list of mods:

00 Oblivion.esm

01 Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 5.5.3]

02 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.5.0]

03 UOPS Additional Changes.esp

04 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]

05 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

06 DLCShiveringIsles.esp

07 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.4]

08 USIPS Additional Changes.esp

09 Better Cities .esp

0A Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp

0B Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

0C Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

0D Crowded Roads Advanced.esp [Version 1.3]

0E DLCHorseArmor.esp

0F DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.8]

10 DLCOrrery.esp

11 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

12 DLCVileLair.esp

13 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10]

14 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

15 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]

16 DLCSpellTomes.esp

17 DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]

18 MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp

19 RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp

1A DLCThievesDen.esp

1B DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.12]

1C DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.12]

1D MTCExpandedVillages.esp

1E DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

1F DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]

20 DLCFrostcrag.esp

21 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]

22 Knights.esp

23 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.4]

24 Jarol's NPC Leveled Equipment.esp [Version 1.0]

** Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.esp

25 Better Cities SKINGRAD.esp [Version 5.5.0]

26 Better Cities BRAVIL.esp [Version 5.5.3]

27 Better Cities ANVIL.esp [Version 5.5.0]

28 Better Cities CHORROL.esp [Version 5.5.0]

29 Better Cities CHEYDINHAL.esp [Version 5.5.0]

2A Better Cities LEYAWIIN.esp [Version 5.5.3]

2B Better Cities BRUMA.esp [Version 5.5.0]

2C Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp [Version 5.5.0]

2D Better Imperial City.esp [Version 5.5.3]

2E Bashed Patch, 0.esp

2F Better Cities - IC Imperial Isle.esp [Version 5.5.2]

Not listed are Natural Faces, Qarl's Texture Pack and Darnified UI. I use TES4 LODGen for RAEVWD/Better Cities. I'm running it on HDR setting so that TES4 LODGen works.

I don't use OBSE (I've never been able to get it to work, so I don't use any mods that require OBSE to run).

Before re-installing Oblivion yesterday, I removed all Oblivion related files from my computer (C and D drives) to ensure I was installing from scratch.

Can anyone tell me why I'm still suffering from hourly crashes while playing, and why it crashes every single time I exit?

Edited August 27, 2014 by draevan13

[Ynguatep]

Hi draevan,

 

There are likely two reasons.

Crash on exit happens, as far as I remember, mainly due to mod conflicts (though I know it even from the vanillia game).

If you manage to get OBSE running, try FastExit: http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/22410/?

 

Did you try if only Oblivion crashes hourly, or if it happens with other games too?

My roomie had the problem recently with several games that crashed exactly hourly. I think she solved it; I could ask and provide her answer later unless you know what's wrong before I meet her again.

[Ynguatep]

Sorry for being late ...

 

We did not find out what caused the crashes exactly, but it seems to be my roomie's anti spyware updater combined with something from the last Windows update (Win7). She avoids at least hourly crashes by decreasing the update rate to 3-4hrs. But it is terribly annoying anyways. Hope you find a real solution!

[draevan13]

I managed to get OBSE working and got Streamline and Stutter Remover for OBSE, both of which are supposed to help prevent crashes. But it's still crashing once or twice an hour, sometimes more. Nothing links the crashes either, it's not like I only crash on load screens, when initiating dialogue or opening menus, it's random. However it's stopped crashing on exit, finally.

As to other games crashing, it's only Oblivion. I can play Skyrim, Fallout 3 or any other Steam game for hours on end without any problems, most of them heavily modded.

I also changed my mods since I posted, here's an updated load order:

 

00 Oblivion.esm

01 Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 5.5.3]

02 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.5.0]

03 UOPS Additional Changes.esp

04 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]

05 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

06 DLCShiveringIsles.esp

07 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.4]

08 USIPS Additional Changes.esp

09 Better Cities .esp

0A Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

0B Skyrimized Water HD BLUE eng.esp [Version 1.8.]

0C Skyrimized Waters HD BLUE - SI Addon.esp

0D WindowLightingSystem.esp

0E AliveWaters.esp

0F AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp

10 AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp

11 Crowded Roads Advanced.esp [Version 1.3]

12 Streamline 2.1.esp

13 DLCHorseArmor.esp

14 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.8]

15 DLCOrrery.esp

16 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

17 DLCVileLair.esp

18 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10]

19 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

1A DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]

1B DLCSpellTomes.esp

1C DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]

1D MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp

1E RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp

1F DLCThievesDen.esp

20 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.12]

21 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.12]

22 MTCExpandedVillages.esp

23 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

24 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]

25 DLCFrostcrag.esp

26 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]

27 Knights.esp

28 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.4]

29 Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

2A Jarol's NPC Leveled Equipment.esp [Version 1.0]

2B P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00]

2C Better Cities Full.esp [Version 5.5.3]

2D Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp [Version 5.5.0]

2E Better Imperial City.esp [Version 5.5.3]

2F Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp [Version 5.5.1a]

30 Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp [Version 5.5.0]

31 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

32 Draevan's Equipment.esp

33 Better Cities - IC Imperial Isle.esp [Version 5.5.2]

[Ynguatep]

Huh.

Might be that Oblivion crashes as you can't minimize it. My roomie says that she has not crash problems with the lot of her games, most do only minimize (still great if you're in a boss fight). Oblivion crashes when you try to do that, or ends up doing weird stuff at least ... so far in my experience. I can't check on Skyrim about that as I don't have it installed.

Maybe run Fraps when you play and try to take a desktop screenshot in the very moment when your game crashes again. That revealed the most likely culprit in my roomie's case, even if she can't do anything about it yet.

[draevan13]

Is there no "crash detector" or anything like that for Oblivion? Something that'll make a text log of what caused the game to crash when it does?

If not, I'll keep playing and write down what I was doing, where I was, etc at the moment of the crash, maybe it'll point out what's wrong.

Edited August 31, 2014 by draevan13