quic22 Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 Ok, I started a new character...a Moonshadow Elf and now my game decides to crash when I: Fast TravelGrid ChangeAuto SaveWhen it rains (I have yet to determine if this is part of the problem) Here is my load order: Oblivion.esmScreenEffects.esmAll Natural Base.esmHorseCombatMaster.esmquickstart.espUnofficial Oblivion Patch.espUnofficial Shivering Isles Patch.espKnights.espDLCHorseArmor.espDLCShiveringIsles.espDLCFrostcrag.espDLCOrrery.espDLCVileLair.espDLCMehrunesRazor.espDLCSpellTomes.espShadow's Horse Wander Fix v1.2.espSlof's Oblivion Robe Trader.espSlimeDoll_v1.0.espShockSpeed 500Ultra.espSorceressofthestorm.espMorrowind Enchantment Shaders.espChaseCameraMod.espalternative loading tips - lore.esp_LPDaedricWAR - FG United.espSS_LA.espLoot All.espKnights_fem.espExpanded Hotkeys and Spell Delete v1.0.espExpanded Hotkeys Brief Equip Message.espACCCGR SI.espEnhanced Water v2.0 HD.espEnhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.espUpdate My Statue.espExtended Skingrad.espExtended Chorrol.espExtended Imperial City Version 1.0.espmore books teach.espOblivion Cats v0.2b.espJarol's NPC Leveled Equipment.espMark & Recall.espAutoSheath.espNo psychic guards v1.2.espactors_in_charge.espActorsInMadness.espEY_KazaiPhantasm.espActorsInEmotions.espNonnormal Weapons.espCliff_BetterLetters.espCliff_CountyNames.espMoob_CappedGuards v1.0.espDremoraFemales.espCommand Mount.espClocksOfCyrodiil.espSetEssentialActors.espEnchantmentRestore.espEnchantmentRestore_Wells.espApachii_Goddess_Store.espQuest Award Leveller.espQuest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.espQuest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.espQuest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.espStockClothingArmor-forExnems.espNatural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.espNatural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp24HrArenaAliveV2.esp24HrArenaAliveV2Towers.espCTAddPose_glock3.espArmory of the Silver Dragon.espHoly Spells.esppizz_NINJA_outfit.espSM_EnchantStaff.espSlof's Dogs.espWayshrinesmap_v1.espJQ_Damsel_Hats.espBuyable Torches.espBrighter_Torches.espQuickPowerAttacks 1.0.espTwo-handed Weapon Enhancement.espVendorFreedom.espMy Improvements.espMagic Cost Rebalance.espPortable Campsite.espHorse_AI-2364.espLadyDeadlock_LoveYourHorse.espUnconscious.espReaper's Coldstone Town.espPTWeaponValues.espRen_Soya_KD's.espSimpleHUDClock.espSinisterHerdir.espLordKain_Adash_World.espZozCrystalOrder.espDemonhunter.espBetter Looking Dark Elves.espJQ-Fighters_Guild_United.espBlood Raven.esp_Ren_BeautyPack_full + Soya's hair.espKT_CustomRaceFix.espMidasSpells.espFatigue Mod.espUOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.espOblivion Citadel Door Fix.espHarvest[Containers].espHarvest[Containers] - Player Home Add-on.espHarvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.espAll Natural.espAll Natural - Real Lights.espAll Natural - SI.espAll Natural - EW + NW + AWS.espSlof's Horses Base.espSlof's Extra Horses.espArmoredLegionHorses_by_deMarco-4137.espHarvest [Flora].espHarvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.espHarvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.espHarvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.espOblivion XP.espOblivion XP - Midas Magic.espEnchantmentMastery.espRagna Parry V2.espSmite of Order.espP1DseeYouSleep.espP1DseeYouSleep - DLCVileLair.espP1DseeYouSleep - Portable Campsite.espDeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.espbetter katanas.espkuerteeEatAndSleep.espAutomatic Timescale.espMiniMap.espSuddenViolence_ElementalSpells.espMoonshadow Elves - Sc.espCityLights - ImperialCity.espDLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.espDLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.espDLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.espDLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.espDLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.espDLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.espKnights - Unofficial Patch.espStreamline 3.0.esp Any help on redoing my load order will be much appreciated! Thank you in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomlong54210 Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 You need to upgrade Streamline. If you did not modify the INI file, I can imagine where at least one of the problems is coming from... Do not use Oblivion's autosaves. If you are using Streamline's, that is fine. Stabilization Mods - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/stabilization/stabilizationmods <-- Get the 3.1b, mind the instructions here, and visit the SL.ini Tweaks page for help tweaking the SL.ini properly for your mod setup. Edit: Be sure to grab the DR hotfix from the DR Nexus page (at the bottom) as well. This load order is not sorted properly either. Get rid of the KT Custom Race fix, as its fix is already included in the Unofficial Oblivion Patch. Load Ordering - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/finishinstall/loadorder <-- having your LO sorted properly may help with some of these issues as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quic22 Posted May 22, 2010 Author Share Posted May 22, 2010 Ok, sorted my load order with boss, using stutter remover with streamline 3.1 optimized for the stutter remover, using the cd and it STILL crashed just by changing areas. Here is my new load order: Oblivion.esmScreenEffects.esmAll Natural Base.esmHorseCombatMaster.esmUnofficial Oblivion Patch.espUOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.espOblivion Citadel Door Fix.espDLCShiveringIsles.espUnofficial Shivering Isles Patch.espalternative loading tips - lore.espNatural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.espAll Natural - Real Lights.espAll Natural.espAll Natural - SI.espAll Natural - EW + NW + AWS.espEnhanced Water v2.0 HD.espEnhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.espBrighter_Torches.espChaseCameraMod.espClocksOfCyrodiil.espCityLights - ImperialCity.espOblivion Cats v0.2b.espP1DseeYouSleep.espPortable Campsite.espP1DseeYouSleep - Portable Campsite.espPTWeaponValues.espUnconscious.espUpdate My Statue.espHarvest[Containers].espHarvest[Containers] - Player Home Add-on.espHarvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.espExpanded Hotkeys and Spell Delete v1.0.espExpanded Hotkeys Brief Equip Message.espDLCHorseArmor.espDLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.espDLCOrrery.espDLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.espDLCVileLair.espDLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.espP1DseeYouSleep - DLCVileLair.espDLCMehrunesRazor.espDLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.espDLCSpellTomes.espDLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.espArmory of the Silver Dragon.espACCCGR SI.esppizz_NINJA_outfit.espStockClothingArmor-forExnems.espSorceressofthestorm.espSlof's Horses Base.espSlof's Extra Horses.espCommand Mount.espLadyDeadlock_LoveYourHorse.espSlof's Oblivion Robe Trader.espDemonhunter.espExtended Imperial City Version 1.0.espExtended Chorrol.espExtended Skingrad.espLordKain_Adash_World.espReaper's Coldstone Town.espApachii_Goddess_Store.esp24HrArenaAliveV2.esp24HrArenaAliveV2Towers.espDLCFrostcrag.espDLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.espKnights.espKnights - Unofficial Patch.espKnights_fem.espJQ-Fighters_Guild_United.espNatural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.espHarvest [Flora].espHarvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.espHarvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.espHarvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.espCliff_BetterLetters.espCliff_CountyNames.espJarol's NPC Leveled Equipment.espmore books teach.espSlof's Dogs.espVendorFreedom.espQuest Award Leveller.espQuest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.espQuest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.espQuest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.espkuerteeEatAndSleep.espEnchantmentMastery.espMark & Recall.espSetEssentialActors.espSmite of Order.espSM_EnchantStaff.espMidasSpells.espEnchantmentRestore.espEnchantmentRestore_Wells.espNo psychic guards v1.2.espSuddenViolence_ElementalSpells.espQuickPowerAttacks 1.0.espDeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.espOblivion XP.espOblivion XP - Midas Magic.espCTAddPose_glock3.espactors_in_charge.espActorsInMadness.espActorsInEmotions.espMoonshadow Elves - Sc.espDremoraFemales.espRen_Soya_KD's.esp_Ren_BeautyPack_full + Soya's hair.espAutomatic Timescale.espMiniMap.espkuerteeCleanUp.espStreamline 3.1.espMorahame Expanded EV.espShadow's Horse Wander Fix v1.2.espSlimeDoll_v1.0.espShockSpeed 500Ultra.espMorrowind Enchantment Shaders.esp_LPDaedricWAR - FG United.espSS_LA.espLoot All.espAutoSheath.espEY_KazaiPhantasm.espNonnormal Weapons.espMoob_CappedGuards v1.0.espHoly Spells.espWayshrinesmap_v1.espJQ_Damsel_Hats.espBuyable Torches.espTwo-handed Weapon Enhancement.espMy Improvements.espMagic Cost Rebalance.espHorse_AI-2364.espSimpleHUDClock.espSinisterHerdir.espZozCrystalOrder.espBetter Looking Dark Elves.espBlood Raven.espFatigue Mod.espArmoredLegionHorses_by_deMarco-4137.espRagna Parry V2.espbetter katanas.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonger Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 you have a rather long load order you really should look into getting a bashed patch (from Wrye Bash) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomlong54210 Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 Basically, you have too many cosmetic mods installed (as in more than ONE). You need to pick one, and drop the others... I really do not recognize half of the plugins in that load order, basically everything that is toward then (that BOSS did not sort?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quic22 Posted May 23, 2010 Author Share Posted May 23, 2010 you have a rather long load order you really should look into getting a bashed patch (from Wrye Bash) What does that do exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomlong54210 Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 Wrye Bash:Bashed Patch - http://wryemusings.com/Wrye%20Bash.html#BashedPatchesWrye Bash - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/prep/wrye-bash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quic22 Posted May 23, 2010 Author Share Posted May 23, 2010 Wrye Bash:Bashed Patch - http://wryemusings.com/Wrye%20Bash.html#BashedPatchesWrye Bash - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/prep/wrye-bash I reinstalled the game, patched it up, bash patched it, got rid of a defective mod, used boss to fix my load order, bla bla bla, etc. and STILL crashes when changing cells....This game is ridiculous with the crashing now.... Any other suggestions other than the ones posted here already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomlong54210 Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 You could drop all of the mods that BOSS does not recognize. Read the BOSS log for compatibility information too. You're using a pretty complex LO, between the script-centric mods and the pluggy-dependent mods... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonger Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 Wrye Bash:Bashed Patch - http://wryemusings.com/Wrye%20Bash.html#BashedPatchesWrye Bash - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/prep/wrye-bash I reinstalled the game, patched it up, bash patched it . . .bashed patch not in load order please post current load order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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