Nudedragon Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 This is an idea I've been playing with for a little while. One of the major shortcomings in skyrim is that everyone is impersonal. Your kids, your wife, your companions... they're all kind of bland. While a number of mods add better followers, not many add really compelling villains. I can't think of any mods that add a proper antihero. Alduin might be able to talk, but at the end of the day, he's just a beast. The opposing general in the civil war is distant, not a personal enemy, but an ideological opponent. The ebony warrior had potential, but we only fight him once. What skyrim needs is a rival. The rival could be anywhere from an adventurer competing for fame and glory, to a vaillain seeking all the daedric relics. They would level up with the dragonborn, and interfere with the players progress at pivotal moments. Perhaps barring the path to a vital quest item, or interfering with whatever faction(s) the dragonborn associates with. If the dragonborn's in the dark brotherhood, for example, the rival assists the soldiers in destroying the DB enclave. The rival'd come from a wealthy, perhaps noble, background to contrast the player's shady origins. Whatever side of the war the player chooses, the rival would take the opposite. The rival would choose skills that exploit the players weaknesses. If the player leveld up and put their perk into archery, the rival would level up and take arrow deflection, or shield charge, for example. I know that last bit is extraordinarily complicated, but it'd be amazing if someone pulled it off. Anyway, thanks for reading. I hope this catches a modders eye :smile: Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalinDrakus Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Really like the idea. I recently posted this idea that I thought had great potential as a custom playable race: http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/2059269-dovahkiir-custom-race-concept/ I still believe that this would make an amazing PC and the associated main quest overhaul I touch on would be really fun, but this race could also work for your idea. These characters try to kill you in a similar fashion as the Dark Brotherhood assassins that you meet on the road, only these characters activly hunt you across the map and are sent from the dragons themselves. At specific points in the main quest a named Dovahkiir is activated and travels from one of the dragon word walls. After the main quest has been completed they could still be sent randomly based on levels reached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nudedragon Posted September 4, 2014 Author Share Posted September 4, 2014 That's a cool custom race, and a fitting rival. We'd have to be facing one opponent repeatedly, otherwise it'd feel like the dragonborn dlc and those dragon worshipers that hunt you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalinDrakus Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 True. Hey if anyone is willing to create the race I still think it's a prime candidate. A champion of the Dovah who attacks you from the beginning of the main quest. He could either fly to your location at random times if it can me modded in successfully or teleport to you and then flee the same way just before you can kill him. After you defeat Alduin he disappears until a certain level at which time you have a final duel and can kill him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leron9999 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I love it. I'm no good with custom voices and quests, but I can do scripts such that the rival can appear at set intervals. Perhaps I can start something, and some other modder who is more experienced with quest lines / custom characters can further improve upon it. I'll try to get something up by the end of September (unless someone gets something online before I do). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nudedragon Posted September 4, 2014 Author Share Posted September 4, 2014 Awesome, leron9999! If someone does pick up Ralin Drakus' custom race idea, thatd be an awesome match up, but any race would do. I'll try and write up some more possible scenarios, backgrounds... stuff to build on, since writing is one thing I can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leron9999 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Sounds great. Post your ideas here for the encounter scenarios, and I'll write it as a script to encounter the rival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notmyhome Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Atvir Dres has an option to become your rival... but I'm not too sure how finished that feature is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leron9999 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Hmm, rival is in its early stages. Could be a nice peg, but I'd much rather start from scratch since it'll likely have a lot of content to tinker with. Especially since I'm not very experienced with quest/companion type modding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlee3141 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 My full support to this. I'm fairly adept at creating custom voiced followers/ companions, and I can also write good dialogue and questlines. I'll collaborate with anyone else here to make this a reality (although I'm quite busy with college and a major project of my own). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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