grinphase Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Hello I've recently encountered a problem and I failed to find a solution. There appears to be a big square in the sky above Whiterun, everything beneath it is treated as if it was actually underwater. This means that I can actually swim all the way up into the sky.Sounds ridicolous I know! Another thing is; It's only actually INSIDE Whiterun, meaning that if I leave the frontgate it disappears. I didn't have any game crashes recently and I have not changed my mod loadorder or setup in any way for the last two days. Before that I've been playing around with ENB settings but stopped that when I had something I was comfortable with. Though, there was a new character created before the square appeared, this character actually encountered it for the first time. After that I found that all my save games had the same problem. I'll include some screenshots to shed some light on things. ----------------------------LOOT Loadorder; SummaryDetailsFiltersThe LOOT Report requires Javascript to be enabled in order to function.Skyrim.esmCRC: C665FD56Update.esmCRC: E5B67BDADelev, RelevWarning: Contains 92 ITM records and 3 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.Unofficial Skyrim Patch.espCRC: 99DF914CVersion: 2.0.6Delev, Names, Relev, StatsGeneralStores.esmCRC: 9A198059Version: 2.3hdtHighHeel.esmCRC: 95D50087TERAArmors.esmCRC: 21AC1D97HighResTexturePack01.espCRC: D596F02AHighResTexturePack02.espCRC: D596F02AHighResTexturePack03.espCRC: D596F02AUnofficial High Resolution Patch.espCRC: 9631D809Version: 1.1.8Cleaner Loading Screen [Vanilla].espCRC: D57E3563iHUD.espCRC: 6098B756Footprints.espCRC: BFAF15E8RaceMenu.espCRC: 2765B7D0NewVampChainsGloves.espCRC: 38DF0CFFWATER.espCRC: DFC8EE75Version: 2.0Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.espCRC: 35F9C306SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.espCRC: FA28D596Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.espCRC: BAEE8C7ESFO - Expanded Diversity.espCRC: 2A0F1313Note: Uninstall old version of Skyrim Flora Overhaul if using SFO - Expanded Diversity.espWarning: Contains 39 ITM records and 54 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.City Forest and Landscape V2 trees whiterun light fix.espCRC: C81876C0Warning: Contains 45 ITM records and 32 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.CityForestV2_6.espCRC: 114740D6AuroraFollower.espCRC: 23759B07WetandCold.espCRC: BEAB0A2FVersion: 1.422Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.espCRC: 9229A0B4RaceMenuOverlays.espCRC: 7C24FBC4RaceMenuPlugin.espCRC: 8A8A009FNote: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.ScopedBows.espCRC: 4C9B5ECSGEyebrows.espCRC: 4FDA9C3CBijin Warmaidens.espCRC: 1695A116MorePP.espCRC: EA659B06HDT Female Hairstyles.espCRC: 19854E98AmazingFollowerTweaks.espCRC: D6C72A3CBardSoundsMalukah.espCRC: 97E0FDCdD - Enhanced Blood Main.espCRC: 7AFD4E3EAK_RM_Pubic_Styles.espCRC: 3A9810BDRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.espCRC: BE688F60Version: 4.0.7Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.espCRC: 2A9F7DEDVersion: 7.1[object Object], [object Object]Tera Armor Level List.espCRC: 3708A4CDDDD-BardsLute.espCRC: 583FC67EWarning: Contains 4 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.Skyrim Realistic Weather Mod v1.4.espCRC: 7691E2C9Version: 1.4.Cloaks.espCRC: D8F94C02Warning: Contains 2 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.nTr4nc3 - Whiterun Mansion.espCRC: FFEF868FElvenSisters.espCRC: 97EC6678SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.espCRC: 7938E7F0SofiaFollower.espCRC: 115E875ANewVampChainsCuirass.espCRC: 8567552Elilithsharbinger.espCRC: 6EC1AE96Convenient Horses.espCRC: A2C92D5CVersion: 14950Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.AK_RM_Tattoos.espCRC: FFC228E8Skyrim_Sexy_LoadScreens.espCRC: E66FF7BFSMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.espCRC: 4CD19713Skyrim Flora Overhaul.espCRC: 1FFE7B07SkyUI.espCRC: 9330CAF7Version: 4.1SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.espCRC: 92593BC1SplashofRain.espCRC: 8906ABBCVersion: 1.051TheEyesOfBeauty.espCRC: F84DC756Version: 9Warning: Contains 2 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit._NewHair.espCRC: 8A8A407C Version Information LOOT Version 0.6.0 Masterlist Updating Enabled Masterlist Revision e84cf4fd7 Masterlist Date 2014-09-06 Plugin & Message Counts Active Plugins 58 Dirty Plugins 6 Total Plugins 58 Warnings 6 Errors 0 Total Messages 13 General MessagesNote: There have been no changes in the Details tab since LOOT was last run for this game.Note: Latest LOOT thread.Note: Your SKSE is up-to-date.Note: It appears you have Fores New Idles in Skyrim installed. Remember to run GenerateFNISforUsers.exe every time you have installed or de-installed FNIS, or a FNIS based mod.Hide Version NumbersHide CRCsHide Bash Tag SuggestionsHide NotesHide 'Do Not Clean' MessagesHide Inactive Plugin MessagesHide All Plugin MessagesHide Messageless PluginsPlugins hidden: 0 / 58Messages hidden: 0 / 13 I've tried multiple things from reïnstalling the entire mod setup to minor tweaks. Only thing I have not done is completely reïnstall Skyrim. If anyone could try to point me in the right direction towards solving this then I'd be really happy. Any help, little or a lot would be reall appreciated. Thanks for reading. -Grinphase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinphase Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) Update: Re-installed everything, problem persists. Tried to find out if the problem was coming from a mod. Turned off several mods one by one. At some points the problem actually got fixed, though after some minutes it came back. Thought it'd be a problem with my water mods, but even without those the problem is there. Tried to see if it had anything to do with the Whiterun Retexture mod, but no.I'm running out of ideas here and it's pretty depressing to have half the city covered in water. Hope someone has a lead for me!Thank you P.S. Could it have anything to do with the Whiterun Mansion mod (Player Home) Mod? Haven't tried to start it up without that yet cause I've filled the mansion with a lot of gear and followers. Also it's not actually in the Whiterun city and I had this mod long before the problem occured. Edited September 10, 2014 by grinphase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinphase Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 Swimming NPC directly underneath the Floating Water Square. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fang989 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Open the console and click on the water square, write down the code in parentheses and let me know what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinphase Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 Hey, Is there any specific spot I should click? Cause depending on what angle or spot I'm clicking I'm getting different codes. (ff000c01) - When clicked on top as shown in screenshot (27000d9b)(27000d7d) - All from below/ Different spots(28000d84) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkasha Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 When looking at your plugin list in NMM, what's the plugin number 0C, 27 and number 28? Not talking about the index number but the load order number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinphase Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 0C - zzDreadlocks.esp (gonna guess this is part from a Hair modeling mod)27 - AuroraFollower.esp28 - AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkasha Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) Does disabling any of those resolve anything? Also does this bug happen on a new or old save game? Edited September 10, 2014 by Valkasha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinphase Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 I tried disabling mods before and it did not work and as I said in the original post, I discovered the problem on a newly made character and after that found that it was in all my saves. So unfortunately, knowledge of where it started is not within my grasp. But for the sake of double checking; -Disabled the hair mod - no results-Disabled Aurora and Twilight mod - no results-Disabled Follower Tweak - no results -Tried any combination of disabling enabling these - no results-Disabled all of them, made a brand new character and went back to Whiterun - Ever present Water Square Could it be that this is a problem within the original Skyrim Folders? And if so, shouldn't it be fixed after re-installing Skyrim completely like I did?This has got to be the weirdest thing I've ever encountered in a game. Any more ideas?And thank you for even taking the time to help out a random scrub! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkasha Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 If you reinstalled skyrim and it still exists, it's a problem with your mods. Does this happen on a new save with zero mods enabled? Try enabling one mod at a time till you find the mod that causes it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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