lp rob1 Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 I decided to try and install FCOM recently. Along with 185 plugins (including FCOM). Everything from loading screens to green mohawks on Khajiits. All was going fine through the tutorial. I get to the end of the sewers, and CTD! FCOM is definately the problem as I disabled it along with all of its 'co-mods' like OOO, MMM, Fran etc. and there was no CTD when exiting the sewers. Therefore the CTD may be caused by any of those. I have SI installed along with most of the official mods. Load order with FCOM (not working):* 00 Oblivion.esm* 01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 0.9.9]* 02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm* 03 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm* 04 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]* 05 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]* 06 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]* 07 Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm* 08 TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]* 09 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7]* 0A Kvatch Rebuilt.esm* 0B Better Cities Resources.esm* 0C HorseCombatMaster.esm* ++ HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp* 0D Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0]* 0E UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]* 0F Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp* 10 DLCShiveringIsles.esp* 11 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]* 12 Better Cities .esp* 13 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp* 14 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp* 15 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp* 16 Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp* 17 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp* ++ Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp* ++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]* ++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]* 18 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]* 19 Fran Armor Add-on.esp* 1A Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp* ** LoadingScreens.esp* ** LoadingScreensAddOn.esp* 1B Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp* 1C All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 0.9.9]* 1D All Natural.esp [Version 0.9.9]* ++ All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp [Version Final]* 1E Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp* ++ Symphony of Violence.esp* 1F AmbientTownSounds.esp* 20 Atmospheric Oblivion.esp* 21 Distant Chapel Bells.esp* 22 Rainbows.esp* 23 Cities Alive At Night.esp* 24 WindowLightingSystem.esp* 25 AliveWaters.esp* 26 AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp* 27 ImprovedSigns.esp* ++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76]* 28 P1DseeYouSleep.esp* ++ Faction_Rank_Fix-5862.esp* ** VA_BetterGold.esp* 29 Piratelords Trade Fixes.esp* 2A Cutthroat Merchants.esp* 2B moDem's City Life.esp* 2C OBC City Life - FULL.esp* 2D DLCHorseArmor.esp* 2E DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]* 2F DLCOrrery.esp* 30 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]* 31 DLCVileLair.esp* 32 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]* 33 P1DseeYouSleep - DLCVileLair.esp* 34 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp* 35 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]* 36 DLCSpellTomes.esp* ++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]* 37 DLCThievesDen.esp* 38 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]* 39 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]* 3A Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]* 3B OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]* ++ FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]* 3C Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp* 3D FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]* 3E Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp* ++ FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]* 3F Oblivion WarCry EV.esp* 40 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9]* 41 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]* 42 OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp* 43 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9]* ++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]* 44 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]* ++ FCOM_SpawnRatesReduced.esp [Version 0.9.9]* ++ FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [Version 0.9.9]* ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]* ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]* 45 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]* ++ TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp [Version 1.39c]* 46 TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c]* ++ TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp [Version 1.39c]* 47 TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp [Version 1.39c]* 48 ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c]* ++ FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.9]* ++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]* ++ FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]* ++ FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9]* ++ FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9]* 49 TIE In.esp [Version 1.2b]* ++ TIE In - Cobl.esp [Version 1.2b]* 4A TIE In - FCOM Convergence.esp [Version 1.2b]* ++ TIE In - RealSwords.esp [Version 1.2b]* ++ TIE In - DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 1.2b]* ++ TIE In - BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 1.2b]* ** LoadingScreens-OOO.esp* ++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69]* 4B Kvatch Rebuilt.esp* 4C OCC-KR-Patch.esp* 4D Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp* ++ Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp* 4E DLCFrostcrag.esp* 4F DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]* 50 Knights.esp* 51 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]* ++ TIE In - Knights.esp [Version 1.2b]* 52 Blood&Mud.esp* 53 FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp [Version 0.9.9]* ++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9]* 54 Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp* ++ FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp [Version 0.9.9]* 55 Open Better Cities FULL.esp* 56 Open Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp* ++ OCC-COBL-Wells.esp* 57 OCC-OOO-Patch.esp [Version 2.3]* 58 JQ-Fighters_Guild_United.esp* ++ FCOM_FighterGUnited.esp* ++ FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp [Version 0.9.9]* 59 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]* ++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]* ++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]* 5A Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]* 5B Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp* 5C Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.esp* 5D P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00]* 5E Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.09]* ++ Enhanced Vegetation [100%].esp* ++ TIE In - Salmo, Cobl.esp [Version 1.2b]* ++ TIE In - B&M.esp [Version 1.2b]* ++ TIE In - Kvatch Rebuilt.esp [Version 1.2b]* ++ TIE In - DLCOrrery.esp [Version 1.2b]* ++ TIE In - DLCThievesDen.esp [Version 1.2b]* ++ TIE In - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 1.2b]* 5F RealisticFatigue.esp* 60 RealisticForceMedium.esp* 61 RealisticMagicForceLow.esp* 62 PJs Disco Spell.esp* 63 StealthOverhaul.esp* 64 Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp* 65 DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp* 66 RealisticLeveling.esp* 67 Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp* 68 Let There Be Darkness - OOO.esp* 69 Let There Be Darkness - Kvatch Rebuilt.esp* 6A Let There Be Darkness - Mehrunes Razor.esp* 6B Let There Be Darkness - Thieves Den.esp* 6C Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp* ++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.76]* ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]* 6D bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 10.52EV-D]* 6E bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV]* ++ bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp [Version 1.68EV]* ++ bgMagicItemSigil.esp [Version 1.68EV]* 6F bgMagicBonus.esp [Version 1.7EV]* ++ bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.68EV]* 70 bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp [Version 1.68EV]* 71 bgMagicAlchemy.esp [Version 1.57]* 72 bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp [Version 1.68UV]* ++ bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp [Version 10]* ** bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, Beautification.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]* ++ bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp [Version 10.]* ** bgBalancingOptionalNPCDiversityKvatchRebuilt, for Wrye Bash.esp [Version 9.0EV-D]* 73 bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp [Version 10.51EV-D]* ++ bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]* ** bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp [Version 10.5EV-D]* 74 No More Annoying Messages.esp [Version 1.3]* ** bgMagicEVShader.esp [Version 1.7EV]* ++ bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp [Version 1.68]* 75 bgMagicLightningbolt.esp* ** Real Lava 1.3.esp* ++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]* ** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 0.9.9]* 76 Bashed Patch, 0.esp* 77 Streamline 3.1.esp ****************************************************************************************************************************** Load order without FCOM (working):* 00 Oblivion.esm* 01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 0.9.9]* 02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm <<< Only to get the MOBS versions of UOP and USIP to work* 03 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]* 04 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm* 05 Better Cities Resources.esm* 06 HorseCombatMaster.esm* ++ HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp* 07 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0]* 08 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]* 09 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp* 0A DLCShiveringIsles.esp* 0B Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]* 0C Better Cities .esp* ** LoadingScreens.esp* ** LoadingScreensAddOn.esp* 0D Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp* 0E All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 0.9.9]* 0F All Natural.esp [Version 0.9.9]* ++ All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp [Version Final]* 10 Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp* ++ Symphony of Violence.esp* 11 AmbientTownSounds.esp* 12 Atmospheric Oblivion.esp* 13 Distant Chapel Bells.esp* 14 Rainbows.esp* 15 Cities Alive At Night.esp* 16 WindowLightingSystem.esp* 17 AliveWaters.esp* 18 AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp* 19 ImprovedSigns.esp* ++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76]* 1A P1DseeYouSleep.esp* ++ Faction_Rank_Fix-5862.esp* ** VA_BetterGold.esp* 1B moDem's City Life.esp* 1C OBC City Life - FULL.esp* 1D DLCHorseArmor.esp* 1E DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]* 1F DLCOrrery.esp* 20 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]* 21 DLCVileLair.esp* 22 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]* 23 P1DseeYouSleep - DLCVileLair.esp* 24 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp* 25 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]* 26 DLCSpellTomes.esp* ++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]* 27 DLCThievesDen.esp* 28 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]* 29 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]* 2A Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]* 2B OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp* ** LoadingScreens-OOO.esp* 2C Kvatch Rebuilt.esp* 2D OCC-KR-Patch.esp* ++ Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp* 2E DLCFrostcrag.esp* 2F DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]* 30 Knights.esp* 31 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]* 32 Blood&Mud.esp* 33 Open Better Cities FULL.esp* 34 Open Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp* ++ OCC-COBL-Wells.esp* 35 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]* ++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]* ++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]* 36 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]* 37 Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp* 38 Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.esp* 39 P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00]* ** Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.09]* ++ Enhanced Vegetation [100%].esp* 3A RealisticFatigue.esp* 3B RealisticForceMedium.esp* 3C RealisticMagicForceLow.esp* 3D PJs Disco Spell.esp* 3E StealthOverhaul.esp* 3F Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp* 40 DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp* 41 RealisticLeveling.esp* 42 Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp* 43 Let There Be Darkness - Kvatch Rebuilt.esp* 44 Let There Be Darkness - Mehrunes Razor.esp* 45 Let There Be Darkness - Thieves Den.esp* 46 Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp* 47 bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 10.52EV-D]* 48 bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV]* ++ bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp [Version 1.68EV]* ++ bgMagicItemSigil.esp [Version 1.68EV]* 49 bgMagicBonus.esp [Version 1.7EV]* ++ bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.68EV]* 4A bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp [Version 1.68EV]* 4B bgMagicAlchemy.esp [Version 1.57]* 4C bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp [Version 1.68UV]* ++ bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp [Version 10]* ** bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, Beautification.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]* ** bgBalancingOptionalNPCDiversityKvatchRebuilt, for Wrye Bash.esp [Version 9.0EV-D]* 4D bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp [Version 10.51EV-D]* ++ bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]* ** bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp [Version 10.5EV-D]* 4E No More Annoying Messages.esp [Version 1.3]* ** bgMagicEVShader.esp [Version 1.7EV]* ++ bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp [Version 1.68]* 4F bgMagicLightningbolt.esp* ** Real Lava 1.3.esp* ++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]* ** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 0.9.9]* 50 Bashed Patch, 0.esp* 51 Streamline 3.1.esp I really want to use FCOM in my game, so if anyone knows what the problem is, and even how to fix it, then I would be UBER grateful!Thanks,lp rob1 Oh, and sorry for making you read/glance through all that :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonger Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 have you tried running your load order through BOSS (easily found on tesnexus) remember to follow Boss' recommendations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lp rob1 Posted June 9, 2010 Author Share Posted June 9, 2010 have you tried running your load order through BOSS (easily found on tesnexus) remember to follow Boss' recommendationsI have BOSS and solely use it to set my load order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lp rob1 Posted June 11, 2010 Author Share Posted June 11, 2010 BUMPThe problem is still not fixed, I know there are people out there who can help me (and many other victims of FCOM)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowfen Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 The problem is still not fixed, I know there are people out there who can help me (and many other victims of FCOM)! I can't help your problem with FCOM because I've never tried to run it myself, but there is another matter that you might want to look into. I notice that you have HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp loaded. The original version of this is known to be incompatible with Shivering Isles - which I notice you also have. I recall having seen a version on TesNexus by someone else that was fixed to co-habitate with SI, though I have not tried it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lp rob1 Posted June 12, 2010 Author Share Posted June 12, 2010 I notice that you have HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp loaded. The original version of this is known to be incompatible with Shivering Isles - which I notice you also have. I recall having seen a version on TesNexus by someone else that was fixed to co-habitate with SI, though I have not tried it.I also found that the original is a non-SI version, but I downloaded the SI fixed version. So that is not the problem.Is there anyone else who knows how to fix problems with FCOM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lp rob1 Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 BUMP! Again! Please, FCOM is good, I want it to work! :sad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xynthoros Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Perhaps if you could post which files are being manually sorted i would be able to help more... if you could post the file that boss creates after running it, it should provide more insight into the problem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodtortiose Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Hello, I was having the same problem. Do you have some missing meshes and green textures? I did, and the problem was MMM. For some reason the mmm bsa wasn't being recognised by FCOM. When I read mmms installation instructions, it said to rename the mmm.bsa to either Mart's Monster Mod.bsa, Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.bsa, or Mart's Monster Mod for Frans.bsa, depending on which esp you used. The problem is that with FCOM, you dont use any of those esps (at least I'm not), just the esm. I solved it by renaming the bsa to FCOM_Convergence.bsa (not 100% on the spelling), and all the meshes and textures appeared, and I was able to exit the sewers. Just find the main FCOM esp, and copy the name exactly to the mmm.bsa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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