Aliens:What would happen if they played meet and greet?

[Keanumoreira]

Perhaps they would enlighten us, showing us the ways of Space travel.

 

I would like to see us humans figure that out on our own. It would make us lazy intellectually to have a superior species teach us all their little secrets without having the ingenuity to develop these on our own. That would be cheating, in a way. Traveling the Universe will come in time, probably not within any of our lifetimes though.

Well according to the Kardashev scale, we may need aliens to help us with space travel. The Kardashev scale explains that right now, humans are below a level one civ., having harnessed nearly all our home planet's resources. The scale indicates that if we don't get off our planet and become a level two civ. soon, or a typical space faring civ., then we WILL destroy ourselves either through war or starvation.

[SilverDNA]

Perhaps they would enlighten us, showing us the ways of Space travel.

 

I would like to see us humans figure that out on our own. It would make us lazy intellectually to have a superior species teach us all their little secrets without having the ingenuity to develop these on our own. That would be cheating, in a way. Traveling the Universe will come in time, probably not within any of our lifetimes though.

Well according to the Kardashev scale, we may need aliens to help us with space travel. The Kardashev scale explains that right now, humans are below a level one civ., having harnessed nearly all our home planet's resources. The scale indicates that if we don't get off our planet and become a level two civ. soon, or a typical space faring civ., then we WILL destroy ourselves either through war or starvation.

thank you for reminding me to read again of this old treasures of book I have a long time in my private collection.

 

 

Illegal Aliens

by Nick Pollotta (Author) and Phil Foglio (Author)

 

 

I have to read it again.

 

On of the worst, fumiest first contacts I've ever read about. I can only endorse this warmly to everybody interested in this matter what can go wrong if we play meet and greet with aliens. Look on Amazon.com for a short editorial review. If you want to know how bad first contact can get.

 

But in general it always comes to the old game of cat an mice or more related to original meet and greet question at witch end of a The Kill-O-Zap™ gun your are standing and how you have gotten there.

[ub3rman123]

Would it be cheating if, say, the aliens just gave us some technology and made us reverse-engineer it?

[Vagrant0]

Well according to the Kardashev scale, we may need aliens to help us with space travel. The Kardashev scale explains that right now, humans are below a level one civ., having harnessed nearly all our home planet's resources. The scale indicates that if we don't get off our planet and become a level two civ. soon, or a typical space faring civ., then we WILL destroy ourselves either through war or starvation.

The problem there is that it makes the assumption that we won't be able to deal with these problems and prevent others as soon as we finally dislodge our heads from our asses. But that really depends on if you believe the advances of the 20th century came from human ingenuity or from some wrecked craft.

 

Regardless, the fact remains that Humanity, by and large, is not yet able to even fathom the notion that there are other beings in this galaxy, and that those beings may not only look nothing like us, but may not have, nor want for any religion or social structure as we define it.

[SilverDNA]

Well according to the Kardashev scale, we may need aliens to help us with space travel. The Kardashev scale explains that right now, humans are below a level one civ., having harnessed nearly all our home planet's resources. The scale indicates that if we don't get off our planet and become a level two civ. soon, or a typical space faring civ., then we WILL destroy ourselves either through war or starvation.

The problem there is that it makes the assumption that we won't be able to deal with these problems and prevent others as soon as we finally dislodge our heads from our asses. But that really depends on if you believe the advances of the 20th century came from human ingenuity or from some wrecked craft.

 

Regardless, the fact remains that Humanity, by and large, is not yet able to even fathom the notion that there are other beings in this galaxy, and that those beings may not only look nothing like us, but may not have, nor want for any religion or social structure as we define it.

 

If your assumption is correct, to what would we need to change in basic that we develop further. (I could agree to the thesis that all end of political strife of the world countries could lead us further. (advance sociology is in my opinion a key to archive this.)

[Vagrant0]

The problem there is that it makes the assumption that we won't be able to deal with these problems and prevent others as soon as we finally dislodge our heads from our asses. But that really depends on if you believe the advances of the 20th century came from human ingenuity or from some wrecked craft.

 

Regardless, the fact remains that Humanity, by and large, is not yet able to even fathom the notion that there are other beings in this galaxy, and that those beings may not only look nothing like us, but may not have, nor want for any religion or social structure as we define it.

 

If your assumption is correct, to what would we need to change in basic that we develop further. (I could agree to the thesis that all end of political strife of the world countries could lead us further. (advance sociology is in my opinion a key to archive this.)  

I wouldn't go so far as to say that all strife should be gone since most of the technological advances throughout history have been in response to war of one kind or another. Senseless, wasteful conflict aimed at absolute desolation of an environment or population should be done away with, but there should still be small scale conflicts to keep us from growing stagnant and complacent.

 

There's obviously many places to be improved upon, but most of it just stems from the sheer irresponsibility and laziness in almost everything we do. Decisions aren't being made for the better of the world, the country, the company, but instead just because they are the most immediately profitable and favorable among voters. We could have been transitioning to cleaner energy 30 years ago, but didn't because it wasn't politically viable. For decades people have been protesting the construction of newer, cleaner, more efficient facilities simply because they have been led to believe that those facilities are somehow worse. For years mining and logging has been done responsibly, but still gets fingered as some sort of ecological disaster or outright raping the planet. It's not that we're running out of resources, but rather we're running out of places to explore and harvest them from because of red tape and lobbyists. On the otherhand, you have oil and production companies who are cutting corners, releasing countless toxins into the environment, and are paying good money to keep it quiet. The latest example of BP has been run more like just a PR campaign than anything that can get results, and as a result of that campaign, many parts of it have actually been made worse. Parts of China and Africa are so outright toxic that most people living in those parts are either sick or have rashes, lesions, and other serious health issues. It's just sheer irresponsibility to do what is right and do it properly, opinions be damned.

[SilverDNA]

The problem there is that it makes the assumption that we won't be able to deal with these problems and prevent others as soon as we finally dislodge our heads from our asses. But that really depends on if you believe the advances of the 20th century came from human ingenuity or from some wrecked craft.

 

Regardless, the fact remains that Humanity, by and large, is not yet able to even fathom the notion that there are other beings in this galaxy, and that those beings may not only look nothing like us, but may not have, nor want for any religion or social structure as we define it.

 

If your assumption is correct, to what would we need to change in basic that we develop further. (I could agree to the thesis that all end of political strife of the world countries could lead us further. (advance sociology is in my opinion a key to archive this.)

I wouldn't go so far as to say that all strife should be gone since most of the technological advances throughout history have been in response to war of one kind or another. Senseless, wasteful conflict aimed at absolute desolation of an environment or population should be done away with, but there should still be small scale conflicts to keep us from growing stagnant and complacent.

 

There's obviously many places to be improved upon, but most of it just stems from the sheer irresponsibility and laziness in almost everything we do. Decisions aren't being made for the better of the world, the country, the company, but instead just because they are the most immediately profitable and favorable among voters. We could have been transitioning to cleaner energy 30 years ago, but didn't because it wasn't politically viable. For decades people have been protesting the construction of newer, cleaner, more efficient facilities simply because they have been led to believe that those facilities are somehow worse. For years mining and logging has been done responsibly, but still gets fingered as some sort of ecological disaster or outright raping the planet. It's not that we're running out of resources, but rather we're running out of places to explore and harvest them from because of red tape and lobbyists. On the otherhand, you have oil and production companies who are cutting corners, releasing countless toxins into the environment, and are paying good money to keep it quiet. The latest example of BP has been run more like just a PR campaign than anything that can get results, and as a result of that campaign, many parts of it have actually been made worse. Parts of China and Africa are so outright toxic that most people living in those parts are either sick or have rashes, lesions, and other serious health issues. It's just sheer irresponsibility to do what is right and do it properly, opinions be damned.

 

Thank you Vagrant0 for answering. I see very much of my opinions in it and can agree to this. My primal target was political strife and the lobbyist that push us to the wrong side.

 

I think there had been a little misunderstanding because you answered to all strife.( but I granulate you how well you did )

 

(SUMMARY)All in all we have to develop further or be extinguished, or we have to wait for Aliens to help us out the mess or they getting us into worse. ( that is until now the basic conclusion of it all I see here)