Another CTD thread! Help appreciated.

[Deleted1130092User]

Ive been playing oblivion for a while now, and have a large amount of mods in my data folder. The problem is, recently, i have been plagued with CTDs in cities all over cyrodiil, some in specific spots. I have been looking for problematic ESPs/ESMs and cant find out what is causing the problem, i even switched back to an old save, plus the load order and list, and encounterd these problems, ive tried almost everything, including BOSS and Windom's CTD fix, but i get missing textures/models and my activate key wont work. Help would be greatly appreciated, as this is hindering any chance of playing. Also, if it helps, the problem started around yesterday, and possibly after I installed WZ_builder and the morrowind HUD, i reverted to DarNed Ui to fix the ctd on loading problem i had with the morrowind HUD.

i have included my load list:

And yes, i tried deactivating morroblivion and all associated files, im including my full load list here.

 

Oblivion.esm

BathingMod_Base.esm

OblivionMountProject.esm

Lamps of Oblivion Master.esm

Nec - Extra Mystic Elf Face.esm

AinmhiRace.esm

CM Partners.esm

Kaleah.esm

Nec-Character_Clair.esm

Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

UnnecessaryViolence.esm

Aanila.esm

DAWerewolf.esm

XenomorphRace.esm

Tribunal_ob.esm

Bloodmoon_ob.esm

Morrowind_ob.esm

Younger Hotter NPC's 0.99.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp

DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp

DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp

Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

Cities Alive At Night.esp

Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp

ChaseCameraMod.esp

ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp

Lamps of Oblivion.esp

MorrowindBooks.esp

OblivionOnline.esp

personality_idles2.esp

P1DseeYouSleep.esp

Player Hunters Fame and Infamy - Normal.esp

Timekeeper_Advanced.esp

TreeDoorAddition.esp

VA_BetterGold.esp

Living Economy.esp

Living Economy - SI.esp

Living Economy - Items.esp

StandingJOJO.esp

Crowded Cities 30.esp

Crowded Roads.esp

PCTM.esp

Terran Vampires Beta.esp

Expanded Hotkeys and Spell Delete v1.0.esp

Expanded Hotkeys Brief Equip Message.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp

Armored Masks.esp

ASlof'sBraceletsandClaws.esp

AW_Wings.esp

Binoculars.esp

Collectible T-Shirts V1.0.esp

DMACArmor.esp

Eternal Dragon Armor light.esp

Lich King's Helm v1_0.esp

M.O.E. - New Staffs, Blight and Ashstorms.esp

M.O.E. - Playable Scythe.esp

M.O.E. - Unlocked Palace Guard Armour.esp

M.O.E. - Unlocked Dremora Armour and Robes.esp

M.O.E. - Unlocked Glenroy and Captain Renault Blades Armour.esp

New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp

Nicoroshi Creations DW Light.esp

Oonas_Outfitters.esp

RenKnockOutArrow.esp

RingwraithArmorMithril.esp

Seductress Armour.esp

Slof's Boners! v5.esp

UnexpurgatedBarenziahv100.esp

ExnemEC_Rogue01.esp

Vampiress Armors For Exnem Body.esp

NV Imperial Guard Horse Armour.esp

MD_FasterHorseTurning.esp

ExnemRuneskulls.esp

Cheat Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

WCGL - Wilderness Creatures 1.1.esp

Bjornheim.esp

Demon_Consort.esp

Housewives v101.esp

M.O.E. - Tools of Kagrenac - The Secret of White Gold Tower.esp

M.O.E. - The Black Sacrament - Night Mother's Ritual.esp

Mercenaries.esp

SkyCastle.esp

Topal Island & Safe Water.esp

za_bankmod.esp

Cliff_RankDependantArenaSpectators.esp

Knights.esp

Knights Vwalk.esp

M.O.E. - Visit Valen Dreth Topic.esp

RTT.esp

RTT Vwalk.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

Bag of Holding.esp

ImmersiveWait.esp

Leviathan Soulgems.esp

M.O.E. - Bone Names and Priced Skull.esp

M.O.E. - Lucien Lachance Rumors Fix.esp

M.O.E. - Icons for Mythic Dawn Armour - Fix.esp

M.O.E. - Lycanthropy and Lichcraft.esp

M.O.E. - New Classes.esp

movablebodies.esp

NewMerchantItems.esp

bondage_sex.esp

Eroblivion.esp

lorecreatures.esp

Cliff_RPO_NewBeginnings_RPC.esp

Quest Award Leveling.esp

Quest Award Leveling - Finger of the Mountain.esp

BathingMod_Soap.esp

BathingMod_Bathroom_Upgrades.esp

BathingMod_Placeable_Bathtubs.esp

RealisticForceLow.esp

RealisticMagicForceLow.esp

Scorn's Vampirism 2.esp

Muggervamp.esp

muggervampinvisbed.esp

BasicInstinct.esp

Elemental Horses.esp

M.O.E. - Ethereal State Spell.esp

M.O.E. - Lock Spells.esp

M.O.E. - Mythic Dawn Powers.esp

M.O.E. - Teleportation Magic and Icarian Flight.esp

Necromancer's Power.esp

PJs Spells - Cheap Spells.esp

DimensionalPocket.esp

SupremeMagicka.esp

SM_ShiveringIsles.esp

SM_EnchantStaff.esp

SM_UnlockSpells.esp

SM_NoSpellLights.esp

SM_Scrolls.esp

SM_SigilStone.esp

Vector.esp

Syc_AtHomeAlchemy.esp

EnchantmentRestore.esp

EnchantmentRestore_Wells.esp

RenGuardOverhaul.esp

RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp

sycHearNoEvil.esp

Enhanced Grabbing.esp

GrabLiveNPC_OBSE.esp

Marksman Velocity.esp

Enter The Shinobi - Coors916.esp

mighty_bows_damage_bonus.esp

mighty_bows_improved_firerate.esp

ptThrowingWeapons.esp

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

SM_DeadlyReflex.esp

RealisticLeveling.esp

CTAddPose_v_1.esp

CTAddPose_ bondage_sex.esp

actors_in_charge.esp

77_Umpa_Animation.esp

EFGAddPose.esp

shinyEmotions.esp

Slof's Sexy Anims.esp

M.O.E. - Better Icon for Script Effects.esp

M.O.E. - Unlocked Hairstyles.esp

AinmhiRace-RensBeautyPackFull.esp

Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake.esp

Nec - Extra Mystic Elf Face.esp

Nec-Character_Clair.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp

AinmhiRace.esp

M.O.E. - Playable Dremora and Custom Race Fix.esp

Beautiful People.esp

Tabaxi_Race_BAB_Robert.esp

CM Partners.esp

CM Partners Vwalk.esp

CM Partners Special NPCs.esp

CM Partners Special NPCs Vwalk.esp

CM Partners NPC.esp

CM Partners NPC Vwalk.esp

CM Partners More NPCs.esp

CM Partners More NPCs Vwalk.esp

CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp

CM Partners Marker NPCs Vwalk.esp

CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp

CM Partners Extra NPCs Vwalk.esp

AW_Partners_MarkReturnTweak.esp

Aliyah.esp

Cog-Rein.esp

DremoraCompanion.esp

sexycompanion.esp

Tamara.esp

Nec-Elf_Kaleah.esp

Kaleah.esp

DAWerewolf.esp

KT_CustomRaceFix.esp

Visual Enchantments v1.0.esp

MO Greetings 9.esp

mighty_bows_arrows_recovery.esp

WhiteGlassWeapons.esp

SDCrystalBallLamps.esp

bluesword.esp

WhiteGlassArmor.esp

Creature_Intensity_v1.5.esp

Bow_Damage_Equalizer.esp

VeronaHouse120.esp

Pack Hunters V1.1.esp

SaddleBag.esp

DUM's Disguises.esp

Benirus Lair.esp

ALE_fc.esp

MorroblivionTribunal_fr.esp

The Bow of Bones Revisited.esp

Assassin's Abode.esp

wm_ninjablade.esp

OBForcePush.esp

OBForceProd.esp

DaedricChainsaw-EV.esp

Exnem_Goddess_Armor.esp

slawleaf.esp

OOStartingMod.esp

Killtastic! Toggle.esp

bandittest.esp

NetrekArmy.esp

KartArena_Amulet.esp

Dancer Upgrade.esp

UndeadFamiliars.esp

XenomorphIncreasedHtH_250.esp

Slof and Tanya's Fleshbeast Armour.esp

XenomorphArmorPlacement.esp

TheBlackPlague.esp

BattlemateF.esp

Lich_rock.esp

SanctuarySubterranus.esp

Knight of Skeleton.esp

AssassinsCreed2EziosGear.esp

 

And my weocps log:

 

Wed Jun 16 05:52:33 2010 OCPS build 2009-03-28 prevented crash at offset 0x0018fba6 (eip: 0x0058fba6, sub_58FBA0). Link to 0x00000000 is faulty!

eax=00000000 ebx=00000000 ecx=00000000 edx=00b32b80 esi=052fe820 edi=00000000 esp=0012f57c ebp=00000000

 

Wed Jun 16 05:52:34 2010 OCPS build 2009-03-28 prevented crash at offset 0x00300619 (eip: 0x00700619, sub_700610). Link to 0x00000000 is faulty!

eax=00000000 ebx=00000001 ecx=00000000 edx=0012f354 esi=00000000 edi=0012f354 esp=0012f2b4 ebp=18680abc

 

Wed Jun 16 05:52:35 2010 OCPS build 2009-03-28 prevented crash at offset 0x0018fba6 (eip: 0x0058fba6, sub_58FBA0). Link to 0x00000000 is faulty!

eax=00000000 ebx=00000000 ecx=00000000 edx=00b32b80 esi=052fe7f8 edi=00000000 esp=0012f5cc ebp=00000000

 

Wed Jun 16 14:32:41 2010 OCPS build 2009-03-28 prevented crash at offset 0x0018fba6 (eip: 0x0058fba6, sub_58FBA0). Link to 0x00000000 is faulty!

eax=00000000 ebx=00000000 ecx=00000000 edx=00b32b80 esi=053111cc edi=00000000 esp=0012f3c4 ebp=00000000

 

Wed Jun 16 14:32:41 2010 OCPS build 2009-03-28 prevented crash at offset 0x0018fba6 (eip: 0x0058fba6, sub_58FBA0). Link to 0x00000000 is faulty!

eax=00000000 ebx=00000000 ecx=00000000 edx=00b32b80 esi=05311320 edi=00000000 esp=0012f3c4 ebp=00000000

 

Wed Jun 16 14:32:41 2010 OCPS build 2009-03-28 prevented crash at offset 0x0018fba6 (eip: 0x0058fba6, sub_58FBA0). Link to 0x00000000 is faulty!

eax=00000000 ebx=00000000 ecx=00000000 edx=00b32b80 esi=05311528 edi=00000000 esp=0012f3c4 ebp=00000000

 

Wed Jun 16 14:32:41 2010 OCPS build 2009-03-28 prevented crash at offset 0x0018fba6 (eip: 0x0058fba6, sub_58FBA0). Link to 0x00000000 is faulty!

eax=00000000 ebx=00000000 ecx=00000000 edx=00b32b80 esi=052b92d0 edi=00000000 esp=0012f3c4 ebp=00000000

 

Wed Jun 16 14:34:56 2010 OCPS build 2009-03-28 prevented crash at offset 0x00300619 (eip: 0x00700619, sub_700610). Link to 0x00000000 is faulty!

eax=00000000 ebx=00000001 ecx=00000000 edx=0012f354 esi=00000000 edi=0012f354 esp=0012f2b4 ebp=18828640

 

Wed Jun 16 14:42:59 2010 OCPS build 2009-03-28 prevented crash at offset 0x0018fba6 (eip: 0x0058fba6, sub_58FBA0). Link to 0x00000000 is faulty!

eax=00000000 ebx=00000000 ecx=00000000 edx=00b32b80 esi=053100a0 edi=00000000 esp=0012f57c ebp=00000000

 

Wed Jun 16 14:42:59 2010 OCPS build 2009-03-28 prevented crash at offset 0x0018fba6 (eip: 0x0058fba6, sub_58FBA0). Link to 0x00000000 is faulty!

eax=00000000 ebx=00000000 ecx=00000000 edx=00b32b80 esi=0531003c edi=00000000 esp=0012f57c ebp=00000000

 

Wed Jun 16 14:42:59 2010 OCPS build 2009-03-28 prevented crash at offset 0x0018fba6 (eip: 0x0058fba6, sub_58FBA0). Link to 0x00000000 is faulty!

eax=00000000 ebx=00000000 ecx=00000000 edx=00b32b80 esi=053100a0 edi=00000000 esp=0012f57c ebp=00000000

 

Wed Jun 16 14:43:00 2010 OCPS build 2009-03-28 prevented crash at offset 0x0018fba6 (eip: 0x0058fba6, sub_58FBA0). Link to 0x00000000 is faulty!

eax=00000000 ebx=00000000 ecx=00000000 edx=00b32b80 esi=0531003c edi=00000000 esp=0012f57c ebp=00000000

 

Wed Jun 16 14:43:00 2010 OCPS build 2009-03-28 prevented crash at offset 0x00300619 (eip: 0x00700619, sub_700610). Link to 0x00000000 is faulty!

eax=00000000 ebx=00000001 ecx=00000000 edx=0012f354 esi=00000000 edi=0012f354 esp=0012f2b4 ebp=1883ce6c

 

Wed Jun 16 14:44:38 2010 OCPS build 2009-03-28 prevented crash at offset 0x0018fba6 (eip: 0x0058fba6, sub_58FBA0). Link to 0x00000000 is faulty!

eax=00000000 ebx=00000000 ecx=00000000 edx=00b32b80 esi=05300708 edi=00000000 esp=0012f3c4 ebp=00000000

 

Wed Jun 16 14:44:38 2010 OCPS build 2009-03-28 prevented crash at offset 0x0018fba6 (eip: 0x0058fba6, sub_58FBA0). Link to 0x00000000 is faulty!

eax=00000000 ebx=00000000 ecx=00000000 edx=00b32b80 esi=05300758 edi=00000000 esp=0012f3c4 ebp=00000000

 

Wed Jun 16 14:47:43 2010 OCPS build 2009-03-28 prevented crash at offset 0x0018fba6 (eip: 0x0058fba6, sub_58FBA0). Link to 0x00000000 is faulty!

eax=00000000 ebx=00000000 ecx=00000000 edx=00b32b80 esi=053007a8 edi=00000000 esp=0012f3c4 ebp=00000000

 

Wed Jun 16 14:47:43 2010 OCPS build 2009-03-28 prevented crash at offset 0x0018fba6 (eip: 0x0058fba6, sub_58FBA0). Link to 0x00000000 is faulty!

eax=00000000 ebx=00000000 ecx=00000000 edx=00b32b80 esi=053007a8 edi=00000000 esp=0012f3c4 ebp=00000000

 

Wed Jun 16 14:55:47 2010 OCPS build 2009-03-28 prevented crash at offset 0x000c9a80 (eip: 0x004c9a80, sub_4C9A80). Invalid _this_ pointer: 0x00000000 (vtbl: 0xffffffff)!

eax=2b009990 ebx=2b009a20 ecx=00000000 edx=189d8db8 esi=2b009990 edi=00000005 esp=0012f720 ebp=00000005

 

Wed Jun 16 15:00:23 2010 OCPS build 2009-03-28 prevented crash at offset 0x0018fba6 (eip: 0x0058fba6, sub_58FBA0). Link to 0x00000000 is faulty!

eax=00000000 ebx=00000000 ecx=00000000 edx=00b32b80 esi=0530fadc edi=00000000 esp=0012f3c4 ebp=00000000

 

Wed Jun 16 15:00:24 2010 OCPS build 2009-03-28 prevented crash at offset 0x0018fba6 (eip: 0x0058fba6, sub_58FBA0). Link to 0x00000000 is faulty!

eax=00000000 ebx=00000000 ecx=00000000 edx=00b32b80 esi=0530b3c0 edi=00000000 esp=0012f3c4 ebp=00000000

 

Wed Jun 16 15:00:24 2010 OCPS build 2009-03-28 prevented crash at offset 0x0018fba6 (eip: 0x0058fba6, sub_58FBA0). Link to 0x00000000 is faulty!

eax=00000000 ebx=00000000 ecx=00000000 edx=00b32b80 esi=053104c4 edi=00000000 esp=0012f3c4 ebp=00000000

 

Another thing, i usually encounter this problem when i hear a strange whirling sound.

[Fonger]

sounds odd, double check your current version number

 

1.2.0416

 

if it is, try a trick from Fallout3 - take off all your armor and smack a guard - let him kill you then see what happens when the game auto-reloads

 

 

BTW, you have far too many mods not to have a bashed patch (from wrye bash)

[Deleted1130092User]

I have checked the version number

1.2.0416

shivering isles (with horse armor and KotN)

ill repost when i have tried the guard trick.

i also do have wrye bash, but the bash patch idea seems a little strange, ill try that too

[Deleted1130092User]

Ok, i have tried the guard trick to no avail

and im now downloading updates and patches

not going so fast because of dial up

[paladinultima]

I kinda of have the same problem. I havent used wyre bash yet I have it and I do have the oblivion patch and Obmm but havent tried boss yet either ( the link to get it was dead) pretty much the min I try to go near the bridge to weye or go a lil way out of the city of chorrol or walk up from the imperial city sewers toward the imperial city the game CTD. I dont know a thing about how wyre bash and struggling on how to use Obmm. I tried uninstalling all the mods but still catching issues too. can somebody point me in the right direction? Running OBSE v18

[bben46]

First we need to narrow it down to whether it is a mod problem or something else. Try this troubleshooting trick.

Bben's Oblivion Revert to Vanilla game

http://www.tesnexus.com/articles/article.php?id=340

 

It removes all mods but leaves the patch installed. And it is completely reversible. Test in the same places where you have been having crashes.

[paladinultima]

it probably is another mod or something. I tried turning off nearly every mod that didnt conflict and I was able to play for a while. i was tring to run curse of Hircine and it was fine up until that point. i was going to try this idea on my other pc I have Oblivion installed on but that one wont even boot up now and that is after two uninstalls. i was wondering if there was a slightly faster way like a better way to catch any conflicts and actually know its bad instead of trial and error. I'm sure if I understood how wyrebash and OBMM work or hell if I can figure how the game determines load order it would help a lot. I love this game and have been pretty hooked but I'm definitely giving that idea a shot.

[d181sp1]

1. Download Better Oblivion Sorting Software (BOSS) and run it. It will organize your mods in a correct manner to prevent problems like yours. This is mandatory.

 

2. Learn how to use Wrye Bash and make a Bashed Patch. This is also mandatory.

 

3. Consider using Oblivion Mod Manager. You can adjust load order for the few mods that BOSS doesn't know where to put. Place them with similar type mods. It also has an archive invalidation feature that is mandatory if you are hoping to see all your changes. This is recommended but on my game it's mandatory. It makes installing and uninstalling mods a snap if you make OMODS out of them with this program.

 

 

You need to do these with all the mods you are running. I'm actually surprised your game doesn't crash on loading. If you are going to run a tricked out heavily modded Oblivion you need to learn how to use these programs so you don't get the problems you have now.

[Deleted1130092User]

I have been using wrye bash and OBMM for a while now, i used BOSS to sort out my load order, and i (re) built the bashed patch, the problem is, im trying to narrow it down to the mod, or mods, that have been causing the ctd issues. i have also tried reverting to vanilla, and activating the mods, one by one.

[Fonger]

I have been using wrye bash and OBMM for a while now, i used BOSS to sort out my load order, and i (re) built the bashed patch, the problem is, im trying to narrow it down to the mod, or mods, that have been causing the ctd issues. i have also tried reverting to vanilla, and activating the mods, one by one.

Pick 10 mods at random and deactivate them

 

if it suddenly works, you've probably hit the mythological mod limit for your machine.