Crashes on Levelup and Loading

[teedayf]

I'm a long-time Fallout 3 player and a nexus user. I was just never in need of asking for help since I could usually find my way around installing mods without issues.

 

I currently have a Fallout 3 installation with a bunch of mods, and everything was fine and dandy, until after adding a certain mod (I do not remember which) I started having problems. I have tried almost everything I could find using Google and my search fu. I've tried disabling mods one by one to root out the issue, and I can't find the mod that could be causing the problem. So here's the issue:

 

My game freezes on two scenarios:

 

1. If I try to load my saved game, the game freezes and I have to end the process through Task Manager. This doesn't happen if I load my game for the first time in one session. For instance, I can load up the game, load up my save, play some, and then if I die and try to re-load last save, I crash. Or if I just manually go to menu and try to re-load any save, I crash. This happens with ALL my save files for this one character. I started a new game with a new character, and I could not re-produce the issue, which implies it has something to do with my main saved game.

 

2. I only recently got to level 10. When the level up screen comes up, I can choose my perks, distribute points, etc, and when I click done, same thing happens. Game freezes and I have to end process.

 

Here's my computer spec:

 

Windows 7 x64

8 GB RAM

Intel Quad Core 2 @ 2.50 GHz

NVIDIA 260 GTX

 

And here's my current load order:

 

[X] Fallout3.esm

[X] Anchorage.esm

[X] ThePitt.esm

[X] BrokenSteel.esm

[X] PointLookout.esm

[X] Zeta.esm

[X] CRAFT.esm

[X] CALIBR.esm

[X] Project Beauty.esm

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

[X] Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm

[X] StreetLights.esm

[X] DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

[X] Realistic Interior Lighting.esp

[X] Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp

[X] Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp

[X] DarNifiedUIF3.esp

[X] Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp

[X] Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp

[X] CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp

[X] HairTradeV1.esp

[X] DUIF3Extras.esp

[X] Amy_Armor_and_co.esp

[X] Headshot Realist.esp

[X] SGsUA - No Borders v.1.0-EN.esp

[X] V.A.T.S. Chance decreased.esp

[X] English Body parts Only Humans.esp

[X] People_Radio.esp

[X] Fellout-pipboylight.esp

[X] DK_BulletTime.esp

[X] CONELRAD 640-1240.esp

[X] UPP - Pack 1.esp

[X] UPP - Pack 2.esp

[X] UPP - Original Perks.esp

[X] UPP - Experience Perks.esp

[X] UPP - Quest Perks.esp

[X] UPP - Beverage Perks.esp

[X] MoreMapMarkers.esp

[X] =Medium=MotionBlur1.1.esp

[X] =Extreme+Far=DOF1.1.esp

[X] JillBSAA.esp

[X] Glow Sticks.esp

[X] 1PipboyPDA.esp

[X] 7_HolsterForHandGunsV1_1.esp

[X] MessyHair.esp

[X] AzarGypsyOutfits.esp

[X] Lookout Outfits.esp

[X] QApplebysOutfit.esp

[X] vashdeagle.esp

[X] TeddyPacks.esp

[X] EnduranceBasedHealthRegen.esp

[X] MFE-Optional-Gray Matters Perk.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Free Play After MQ.esp

[X] EVE.esp

[X] Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp

[X] Enhanced Weather - Radioactive Rain and Snow Plugin.esp

[X] Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp

[X] Enhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.esp

[X] Fellout-Full.esp

[X] K2_PlayWearClub.esp

[X] PureWater-VeryCleanLittleRad-.esp

[X] F3Eyelashes.esp

[X] CASM.esp

[X] Merge Patch 0.03.esp

 

Can someone please help me out and point me in the right direction for solving? I'd really really really hate to start all over again from ground zero. :(

[RastahMan]

Check.Noticed that you are using DK bullet time.esp or .esm uninstall it, the same future is in FWE.

[teedayf]

Check.Noticed that you are using DK bullet time.esp or .esm uninstall it, the same future is in FWE.

 

Thanks for the reply.

 

I tried your link. Used the compatibility list to clean up my load order and get rid of redundant includes. Sadly, it fixed nothing.

 

I still cannot load my main character's saved game unless it's a new play session (i.e. I have to restart the game when I die, or sometimes just exiting to main menu and re-loading seems to work).

 

Leveling up still seems to cause the game to freeze as if I tried to load my saved game.

 

None of these issues exist on a new game. I spent an hour trying to reproduce the same issues on a new game, and everything seemed to work fine.

 

A clue that I discovered that might help:

 

Having lost all hope, I decided to just level up manually. I tried to figure out exactly what stats get changed during a level up so I can change them manually when I feel like my character should advance to the next level. When trying different console commands, only one could reproduce the above behavior (i.e. make the game freeze):

 

player.setlevel 11

 

So far I've resorted to just adding perks manually and changing the stats, and removing xp from myself when I level up. I know, it seems a lot of work, but I just really love how far I've come with this character, and I really hope someone here can help me resolve this.

[Fonger]

have you tried FO3edit master update function?

[teedayf]

have you tried FO3edit master update function?

 

Tried that as well. But it completely messed up my load order. Nevertheless, I loaded the game and the issues persisted. I then used F03MasterRestore to change them back.

[Fonger]

have you tried FO3edit master update function?

 

Tried that as well. But it completely messed up my load order. Nevertheless, I loaded the game and the issues persisted. I then used F03MasterRestore to change them back.

odd

 

it never changed my load order

 

are you certain you used the master update function?

[teedayf]

have you tried FO3edit master update function?

 

Tried that as well. But it completely messed up my load order. Nevertheless, I loaded the game and the issues persisted. I then used F03MasterRestore to change them back.

odd

 

it never changed my load order

 

are you certain you used the master update function?

 

I'm pretty sure I did it right. Rename the executable to FOMasterUpdate, ran it as administrator, and then it converted my .esp's to .esm's and completely re-wired the load order, then said 'Done'. And then I closed it and ran the game, and managed reproduce all stated issues.

[RastahMan]

Ah i see whot's the problem you have DLC Broken Steel, and you use [X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Free Play After MQ.esp, don't use it with Broken Steel, cause BS have the same future, and propaply it's some conflict.

[teedayf]

Ah i see whot's the problem you have DLC Broken Steel, and you use [X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Free Play After MQ.esp, don't use it with Broken Steel, cause BS have the same future, and propaply it's some conflict.

 

:(

 

No luck. Both issues still persist on the character in question. But thanks for finding this conflict; should save me headache later on.

 

Is there any way to modify saved files? Or, for instance, duplicate a character in a saved file? Or just..."uncorrupt" saved files?

 

I was thinking about starting a new game and somehow, copying my character's stats and what-not all over again. But she'd still need the quests and exploration stuff. *sigh*

[Fonger]

Or just..."uncorrupt" saved files?

NO

 

that's why experienced gamers keep literally thousands of saves to fall back upon

 

for just such emergencies