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I'm having trouble with Martigen's Monster Mod Hunting and Crafting plugin. I can grind the gemstones with the gems and gem dust plugin, and I can craft arrows and armor with the crafting plugin, but I read something about crushing other bones to get bonemeal. How do I do that? Shouldn't it just work the same way I crush the gems (clicking on them)? Yes, I am using FCOM, so I'm aware there may be weird things going on, but any fix to this would be great. Load order was done with BOSS, so I'm assuming it's correct.

 

I could only find one other topic with somebody who had this problem. Unfortunately, the answerer posted "This has already been asked. Use the search function" or something, and provided link to an old, no-longer-existing page.

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mechanically

 

you crush bones by having a mortar and pestle in your inventory and clicking on the bones

 

or by dropping the bones into a bone grinder in the mages' guild (looks like an ayleid container)

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Right right. Here's the load order:

 

Oblivion.esm

Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

Mart's Monster Mod.esm

TamrielTravellers.esm

FCOM_Convergence.esm

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp

Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp

Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp

Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp

FCOM_Francescos.esp

FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp

FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp

Living Economy.esp

Living Economy - Items.esp

Cutthroat Merchants.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

ExnemRuneskulls.esp

FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp

Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

FCOM_BobsArmory.esp

Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp

FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp

Oblivion WarCry EV.esp

FCOM_WarCry.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp

FCOM_Convergence.esp

FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp

FCOM_RealSwords.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp

TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp

TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp

ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp

ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

Knights.esp

FCOM_Knights.esp

Harvest [Flora].esp

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp

Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp

spelliconreplace.esp

OOO-Respawn_Week.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

@ Fonger:

I do have a mortar and pestle, and I am able to crush gemstones and silver nuggets that I melted down. But clicking on the bones just doesn't do anything when I try.

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Could you please repost the list through Wrye Bash? I want to see the version numbers. Also, you can replace the OOO Respawn Week problem with one of the Bashed Patch tweaks. I think it is under Tweak Assorted.
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The Wrye Bash list then:

 

00 Oblivion.esm

01 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

02 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

03 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.33]

04 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]

05 TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]

06 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7]

07 DLCShiveringIsles.esp

08 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]

09 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

0A Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

0B Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp

0C Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp

0D Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp

0E Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp

0F FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]

10 FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]

11 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]

12 Living Economy.esp

13 Living Economy - Items.esp

14 Cutthroat Merchants.esp

15 DLCHorseArmor.esp

16 DLCOrrery.esp

17 DLCVileLair.esp

18 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

19 DLCSpellTomes.esp

1A DLCThievesDen.esp

1B ExnemRuneskulls.esp

1C FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9]

1D Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

1E FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]

1F Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp

20 FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]

21 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp

22 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9]

23 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.33]

24 OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp [Version 1.33]

25 Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

26 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9]

27 FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]

28 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]

29 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

2A Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

2B Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

2C Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

2D Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

2E Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

2F TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c]

30 TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [Version 1.39c]

31 ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c]

32 ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp [Version 1.39c]

33 Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

34 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

35 DLCFrostcrag.esp

36 Knights.esp

37 FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9]

38 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]

39 Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]

3A Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]

3B Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]

3C spelliconreplace.esp

3D OOO-Respawn_Week.esp [Version 1.33]

3E Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

I haven't noticed a respawn problem (probably because my new game is only 5 game hours in). I'll look up the tweak; thanks for the heads up.

 

3.7b3 is the latest of MMM, right?

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The Wrye Bash list then:

 

00 Oblivion.esm

01 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

02 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

03 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.33]

04 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]

05 TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]

06 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7]

07 DLCShiveringIsles.esp

08 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]

09 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

0A Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

0B Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp

0C Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp

0D Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp

0E Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp

0F FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]

10 FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]

11 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]

12 Living Economy.esp

13 Living Economy - Items.esp

14 Cutthroat Merchants.esp

15 DLCHorseArmor.esp

16 DLCOrrery.esp

17 DLCVileLair.esp

18 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

19 DLCSpellTomes.esp

1A DLCThievesDen.esp

1B ExnemRuneskulls.esp

1C FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9]

1D Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

1E FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]

1F Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp

20 FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]

21 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp

22 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9]

23 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.33]

24 OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp [Version 1.33]

25 Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

26 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9]

27 FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]

28 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]

29 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

2A Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

2B Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

2C Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

2D Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

2E Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

2F TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c]

30 TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [Version 1.39c]

31 ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c]

32 ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp [Version 1.39c]

33 Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

34 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

35 DLCFrostcrag.esp

36 Knights.esp

37 FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9]

38 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]

39 Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]

3A Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]

3B Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]

3C spelliconreplace.esp

3D OOO-Respawn_Week.esp [Version 1.33]

3E Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

I haven't noticed a respawn problem (probably because my new game is only 5 game hours in). I'll look up the tweak; thanks for the heads up.

 

3.7b3 is the latest of MMM, right?

Yes, however, the MMM 3.7b3 update requires a clean install of MMM, and you have to upgrade to the latest version of FCOM and OOO as well.

 

FCOM Installation Guide - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/index.php?page=guides_mod_installation&subpage=fcom_installation_guide <-- Just follow this.

 

Also, replace the OOO-Respawn plugin with the corresponding Bashed Patch tweak.

The Bashed Patch - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/index.php?page=bashed_patch <-- I think that the respawn option is under Tweak Settings

 

 

Edit: If your CPU starts dying, drop Additional NPC Vars. Remember to drop Exnem's Runeskulls for MMM's Diverse Runeskulls OOO Loot add-on when you upgrade.

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The Wrye Bash list then:

 

00 Oblivion.esm

01 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

02 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

03 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.33]

04 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]

05 TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]

06 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7]

07 DLCShiveringIsles.esp

08 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]

09 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

0A Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

0B Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp

0C Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp

0D Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp

0E Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp

0F FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]

10 FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]

11 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]

12 Living Economy.esp

13 Living Economy - Items.esp

14 Cutthroat Merchants.esp

15 DLCHorseArmor.esp

16 DLCOrrery.esp

17 DLCVileLair.esp

18 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

19 DLCSpellTomes.esp

1A DLCThievesDen.esp

1B ExnemRuneskulls.esp

1C FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9]

1D Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

1E FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]

1F Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp

20 FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]

21 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp

22 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9]

23 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.33]

24 OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp [Version 1.33]

25 Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

26 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9]

27 FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]

28 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]

29 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

2A Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

2B Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

2C Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

2D Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

2E Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

2F TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c]

30 TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [Version 1.39c]

31 ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c]

32 ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp [Version 1.39c]

33 Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

34 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

35 DLCFrostcrag.esp

36 Knights.esp

37 FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9]

38 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]

39 Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]

3A Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]

3B Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]

3C spelliconreplace.esp

3D OOO-Respawn_Week.esp [Version 1.33]

3E Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

I haven't noticed a respawn problem (probably because my new game is only 5 game hours in). I'll look up the tweak; thanks for the heads up.

 

3.7b3 is the latest of MMM, right?

Yes, however, the MMM 3.7b3 update requires a clean install of MMM, and you have to upgrade to the latest version of FCOM and OOO as well.

 

FCOM Installation Guide - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/index.php?page=guides_mod_installation&subpage=fcom_installation_guide <-- Just follow this.

 

Also, replace the OOO-Respawn plugin with the corresponding Bashed Patch tweak.

The Bashed Patch - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/index.php?page=bashed_patch <-- I think that the respawn option is under Tweak Settings

 

 

Edit: If your CPU starts dying, drop Additional NPC Vars. Remember to drop Exnem's Runeskulls for MMM's Diverse Runeskulls OOO Loot add-on when you upgrade.

 

Ok, so when I followed the instructions on FCOM's site (devnull.sweetdanger.net/convergence):

# Download MMM 3.5.5 OMOD or FULL package extract the 'Meshes,' Sound,' and 'Textures' folders into your "Data" folder. Do NOT use any of the ESMs/ESPs from this version!

# Download MMM 3.7 BETA and extract the 'Meshes,' Sound,' and 'Textures' folders into your "Data" folder (overwrite, if necessary) together with Mart's Monster Mod.esm

Of course, the new beta does not use separate files, but a .bsa. So, it wasn't until after I noticed green corpses caused by the missing blood textures that I realized I needed the new .bsa. I didn't remove the old MMM files because I thought the FCOM instructions still wanted me to use them. How do I make sure I have them all removed correctly so I've got a "clean install" of MMM?

 

On your other comments, I'm pretty sure I've got the latest OOO and FCOM. As far as I know, the latest OOO is 1.34 beta and the latest FCOM is 0.9.9 beta, no? It shows 1.33 for OOO but I did the update to 1.34 manually by just replacing the old files with newer versions. So, basically, I just installed FCOM a couple days ago and I thought I started with everything up to date already. What do I have that is out of date?

 

Thanks very much for all your help. I just need a bit more clarification.

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The official FCOM docs are outdated, which I why I wrote the guide I linked. It would walk you through that. All you have to do to uninstall MMM is deactivate the OMOD. The FCOM instructions for MMM 3.7 are to completely remove older versions of MMM. Do you have UFCOM too? Just follow the instructions with that guide, and please do not use manual installation as it will make cleaning up and upgrading much messier.

 

Could you post your load order so that I may check the current one? Please, use spoiler tags this time.

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Could you post your load order so that I may check the current one? Please, use spoiler tags this time.

 

Alright, alright. Followed your guide, so here's the brand new load order:

 

 

 

00 Oblivion.esm

01 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

02 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

03 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]

04 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]

05 TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]

06 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7]

07 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.7]

08 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]

09 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

0A DLCShiveringIsles.esp

0B Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]

0C Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

0D Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

0E Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp

0F Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp

++ Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp

++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]

10 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]

11 Living Economy.esp

12 Living Economy - Items.esp

13 Cutthroat Merchants.esp

14 Crowded Roads Revisited.esp [Version 1.1]

15 DLCHorseArmor.esp

16 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

17 DLCOrrery.esp

18 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]

19 DLCVileLair.esp

1A DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

1B DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

1C DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]

1D DLCSpellTomes.esp

++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]

1E DLCThievesDen.esp

1F DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

20 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]

21 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

22 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]

23 Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp

++ FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]

24 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp

25 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9]

26 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]

27 OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp [Version 1.33]

++ OMOBS.esp [Version 1.0]

++ OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 1.0]

28 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]

29 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]

2A Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

++ Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

2B Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

2C Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

2D Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

2E Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

2F TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c]

30 ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c]

++ ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp [Version 1.39c]

++ FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.9]

++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

31 Geomancy & Gem Dust OOO.esp

32 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

33 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]

34 DLCFrostcrag.esp

35 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]

36 Knights.esp

37 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]

38 TOTF.esp

39 The Lost Spires.esp

3A Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]

3B Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]

++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]

++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]

3C Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]

3D P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00]

3E spelliconreplace.esp

++ Francesco's Slower skills x1.5.esp

3F Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp

40 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

 

Is that all good now? :)

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