FO3 GOTY crashing at please stand by after months of not playing it

Angelvengen · October 3, 2014

Ok so I am currently running into an issue with my FO3 GOTY steam edition, which is that it is CTD during the please stand buy slide as the game starts up. sometimes I get one tone, sometimes it goes to two or three, but I can not pass that screen any longer. I tried disabling all the mods i have installed, I even re-installed the game. the weird thing is that I had it running a few months ago just fine, and havent changed anything at all since then, apart from not playing it for a little while. I'm going to attach my boss log and everything and am really hoping someone here knows what I need to fix to get this to work.

Steps I have taken so far

Installed FOSE

Edited my .ini

checked the screen resolution

disabled my second monitor

deleted and re-installed the game

ran through all my audio codecs as I saw one person mention on a different site

the only thing I can think of that might have done it is I am currently using SLI linked cards, where as previously I was only using a single card. I am hoping that this isnt the case as I don't feel like pulling that second card out just to play fallout3

System Specs are

Windows 7 64 bit

AMD FX 8350 8 core at 4.0 GHz

16gb Ram

DX 11

Dual GeForce GTX 760

ASUS Crosshair V Formula-z AM3+ mobo

Boss Log

please note that the mods that BOSS says not to run are currently disabled in my NMM.

FOSE Version: 0.1.2.2
These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.
- Fallout3.esm Active
- Anchorage.esm Active
- ThePitt.esm Active
- BrokenSteel.esm Active
  - Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIPackages, Relev}}
- PointLookout.esm Active
- Zeta.esm Active
- Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm Version 1.7 Active
  - Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Music, Deflst, Delev, Relev, Factions, Invent, Names, Relations, Stats}}
- CALIBR.esm Version 1.4 Active
- TheInstitute.esm Active
- FOOK2 - Main.ESM Version 20140427 Active
  - Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Invent, Stats, Relations, Factions}}
  - Requires: CALIBR.esm
- FOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.ESM Version 20140427 Active
  - Requires: Anchorage.esm
  - Requires: ThePitt.esm
  - Requires: BrokenSteel.esm
  - Requires: PointLookout.esm
  - Requires: CALIBR.esm
  - Requires: FOOK2 - Main.ESM
- Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm Active
- DarNifiedUIF3.esp Version 1.1b5 Active
- Mannequin.esp Version 3.3 Active
  - Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIData}}
- UndergroundHideout.esp Active
- FOOK2 - Main.esp Version 20140427 Active
  - Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
  - Requires: CALIBR.ESM and FOOK2 - Main.ESM
- FOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.esp Version 20140427 Active
  - Requires: Anchorage.ESM
  - Requires: ThePitt.ESM
  - Requires: BrokenSteel.ESM
  - Requires: PointLookout.esm
  - Requires: CALIBR.ESM
  - Requires: and FOOK2 - Main.ESM
- FOOK2 - Main [Hotfix].esp Version 20140427 Active
  - Error: Please update to FOOK2 1.1 Open Beta 2
- FOOK2 - DIK [Hotfix].esp Version 20140427 Active
  - Error: Please update to FOOK2 1.1 Open Beta 2
- DIM TYPE3clothesRETAIL.esp Version 3 Active
- Dragonskin Tactical Outfit.esp Version 3. Active
- DragonskinBonusPack.esp Active
- WHSpaceMarineArmor.esp Active
- Fellout-pipboylight.esp Version 60 Active
- Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp Active
- Enhanced Weather - Radioactive Rain and Snow Plugin.esp Active
- Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp Active
- Enhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.esp Active
- Enhanced Weather - REBOOT.esp Active
- Fellout-Full.esp Version 2672
  - Incompatible with: Fellout-SOTD.esp
  - Note: Do not use with latest FOOK2, it is already integrated.
- Fellout-Anchorage.esp Version 1.0.
  - Requires: Anchorage.esm
  - Note: Do not use with latest FOOK2, it is already integrated.
- Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp Version 1.1
  - Requires: BrokenSteel.esm
  - Note: Do not use with latest FOOK2, it is already integrated.
- Fellout-PointLookout.esp
  - Requires: PointLookout.esm
  - Note: Do not use with latest FOOK2, it is already integrated.
- Fellout-Zeta.esp Version 1.0
  - Note: Do not use with latest FOOK2, it is already integrated.
- The following plugins were not found in the masterlist, and must be positioned manually, using your favourite mod manager or by using BOSS's user rules functionality. You can submit unrecognised plugins for addition to the masterlist directly from this log by clicking on a plugin and supplying a link and/or description of its contents in the panel that is displayed.
  - TiesThatBind.esp Active
  - CompReilly.esp Active
  - ModBetterBigGuns.esp Active

any help would be super appreciated!

M48A5 · October 3, 2014

"the only thing I can think of that might have done it is I am currently using SLI linked cards"

It seems you know what is causing the problem. It worked before, you linked your cards and now it doesn't work.

Fallout 3 has a problem working with cards in SLI. Don't you have an option to use only one card for the game?

You should also take care of the errors shown on the BOSS log.

Edited October 3, 2014 by M48A5

Purr4me · October 3, 2014

Ok so I am currently running into an issue with my FO3 GOTY steam edition, which is that it is CTD during the please stand buy slide as the game starts up. sometimes I get one tone, sometimes it goes to two or three, but I can not pass that screen any longer. I tried disabling all the mods i have installed, I even re-installed the game. the weird thing is that I had it running a few months ago just fine, and havent changed anything at all since then, apart from not playing it for a little while. I'm going to attach my boss log and everything and am really hoping someone here knows what I need to fix to get this to work.

Steps I have taken so far

Installed FOSE
Edited my .ini
checked the screen resolution
disabled my second monitor
deleted and re-installed the game
ran through all my audio codecs as I saw one person mention on a different site

the only thing I can think of that might have done it is I am currently using SLI linked cards, where as previously I was only using a single card. I am hoping that this isnt the case as I don't feel like pulling that second card out just to play fallout3

System Specs are

Windows 7 64 bit
AMD FX 8350 8 core at 4.0 GHz
16gb Ram
DX 11
Dual GeForce GTX 760
ASUS Crosshair V Formula-z AM3+ mobo

Boss Log
please note that the mods that BOSS says not to run are currently disabled in my NMM.
FOSE Version: 0.1.2.2
These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.
Fallout3.esm Active
Anchorage.esm Active
ThePitt.esm Active
BrokenSteel.esm Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIPackages, Relev}}
PointLookout.esm Active
Zeta.esm Active
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm Version 1.7 Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Music, Deflst, Delev, Relev, Factions, Invent, Names, Relations, Stats}}
CALIBR.esm Version 1.4 Active
TheInstitute.esm Active
FOOK2 - Main.ESM Version 20140427 Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Invent, Stats, Relations, Factions}}
Requires: CALIBR.esm
FOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.ESM Version 20140427 Active
Requires: Anchorage.esm
Requires: ThePitt.esm
Requires: BrokenSteel.esm
Requires: PointLookout.esm
Requires: CALIBR.esm
Requires: FOOK2 - Main.ESM
Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm Active
DarNifiedUIF3.esp Version 1.1b5 Active
Mannequin.esp Version 3.3 Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIData}}
UndergroundHideout.esp Active
FOOK2 - Main.esp Version 20140427 Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Requires: CALIBR.ESM and FOOK2 - Main.ESM
FOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.esp Version 20140427 Active
Requires: Anchorage.ESM
Requires: ThePitt.ESM
Requires: BrokenSteel.ESM
Requires: PointLookout.esm
Requires: CALIBR.ESM
Requires: and FOOK2 - Main.ESM
FOOK2 - Main [Hotfix].esp Version 20140427 Active
Error: Please update to FOOK2 1.1 Open Beta 2
FOOK2 - DIK [Hotfix].esp Version 20140427 Active
Error: Please update to FOOK2 1.1 Open Beta 2
DIM TYPE3clothesRETAIL.esp Version 3 Active
Dragonskin Tactical Outfit.esp Version 3. Active
DragonskinBonusPack.esp Active
WHSpaceMarineArmor.esp Active
Fellout-pipboylight.esp Version 60 Active
Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp Active
Enhanced Weather - Radioactive Rain and Snow Plugin.esp Active
Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp Active
Enhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.esp Active
Enhanced Weather - REBOOT.esp Active
Fellout-Full.esp Version 2672
Incompatible with: Fellout-SOTD.esp
Note: Do not use with latest FOOK2, it is already integrated.
Fellout-Anchorage.esp Version 1.0.
Requires: Anchorage.esm
Note: Do not use with latest FOOK2, it is already integrated.
Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp Version 1.1
Requires: BrokenSteel.esm
Note: Do not use with latest FOOK2, it is already integrated.
Fellout-PointLookout.esp
Requires: PointLookout.esm
Note: Do not use with latest FOOK2, it is already integrated.
Fellout-Zeta.esp Version 1.0
Note: Do not use with latest FOOK2, it is already integrated.

The following plugins were not found in the masterlist, and must be positioned manually, using your favourite mod manager or by using BOSS's user rules functionality. You can submit unrecognised plugins for addition to the masterlist directly from this log by clicking on a plugin and supplying a link and/or description of its contents in the panel that is displayed.
TiesThatBind.esp Active
CompReilly.esp Active
ModBetterBigGuns.esp Active

any help would be super appreciated!

So I see this in this way:

Fallout3.esm Active
Anchorage.esm Active < slot #1
ThePitt.esm Active < slot #2
BrokenSteel.esm Active < slot #3
PointLookout.esm Active < slot #4
Zeta.esm Active < slot #5
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm Version 1.7 ActiveCALIBR.esm Version 1.4 Active
TheInstitute.esm Active
FOOK2 - Main.ESM Version 20140427 Active
---------------------------------------
----------------------------------------
FOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.ESM Version 20140427 Active (?)

Requires: Anchorage.esm < slot #1
Requires: ThePitt.esm < slot #2
Requires: BrokenSteel.esm < slot #3
Requires: PointLookout.esm < slot #4
Requires: CALIBR.esm
Requires: FOOK2 - Main.ESM
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm Active
DarNifiedUIF3.esp Version 1.1b5 Active
Mannequin.esp Version 3.3 Active
UndergroundHideout.esp Active
FOOK2 - Main.esp Version 20140427 Active
FOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.esp Version 20140427 Active (?)
Requires: Anchorage.ESM < slot #1
Requires: ThePitt.ESM < slot #2
Requires: BrokenSteel.ESM < slot #3
Requires: PointLookout.esm < slot #4
Requires: CALIBR.ESM
Requires: and FOOK2 - Main.ESM
FOOK2 - Main [Hotfix].esp Version 20140427 Active
FOOK2 - DIK [Hotfix].esp Version 20140427 Active
DIM TYPE3clothesRETAIL.esp Version 3 Active
Dragonskin Tactical Outfit.esp Version 3. Active
DragonskinBonusPack.esp Active
WHSpaceMarineArmor.esp Active
Fellout-pipboylight.esp Version 60 Active
Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp Active
Enhanced Weather - Radioactive Rain and Snow Plugin.esp Active
Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp Active
Enhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.esp Active
Enhanced Weather - REBOOT.esp Active
==========================================================
~~Fellout-Full.esp Version 2672~~

Incompatible with: Fellout-SOTD.esp
Note: Do not use with latest FOOK2, it is already integrated.

~~Fellout-Anchorage.esp Version 1.0.~~

Requires: Anchorage.esm
Note: Do not use with latest FOOK2, it is already integrated.

~~Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp Version 1.1~~

Requires: BrokenSteel.esm
Note: Do not use with latest FOOK2, it is already integrated.

~~Fellout-PointLookout.esp~~

Requires: PointLookout.esm
Note: Do not use with latest FOOK2, it is already integrated.

~~Fellout-Zeta.esp Version 1.0~~

Note: Do not use with latest FOOK2, it is already integrated.
TiesThatBind.esp Active
CompReilly.esp Active
ModBetterBigGuns.esp Active

=============================================================
Correct load out should be like this:
Fallout3.esm Active
Anchorage.esm Active
ThePitt.esm Active
BrokenSteel.esm Active
PointLookout.esm Active
Zeta.esm Active
Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm Active
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm Version 1.7 Active
CALIBR.esm Version 1.4 Active
TheInstitute.esm Active
DarNifiedUIF3.esp Version 1.1b5 Active
FOOK2 - Main.ESM Version 20140427 Active This is Detected (DarNifiedUIF3.esp Version 1.1b5) During install.
FOOK2 - Main.esp Version 20140427 Active
FOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.ESM Version 20140427 Active ( ? )
FOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.esp Version 20140427 Active ( ? )
FOOK2 - Main [Hotfix].esp Version 20140427 Active
FOOK2 - DIK [Hotfix].esp Version 20140427 Active
DIM TYPE3clothesRETAIL.esp Version 3 Active
Dragonskin Tactical Outfit.esp Version 3. Active
DragonskinBonusPack.esp Active
WHSpaceMarineArmor.esp Active
Mannequin.esp Version 3.3 ActiveUndergroundHideout.esp Active
TiesThatBind.esp Active
CompReilly.esp Active
ModBetterBigGuns.esp Active
Fellout-pipboylight.esp Version 60 Active Patch this for Fook "you do that"
Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp Active
Enhanced Weather - Radioactive Rain and Snow Plugin.esp Active
Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp Active
Enhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.esp Active
Enhanced Weather - REBOOT.esp Active

that shoul get you a lot closer to better things.

Kitty

Angelvengen · October 4, 2014

"Fallout 3 has a problem working with cards in SLI. Don't you have an option to use only one card for the game?

You should also take care of the errors shown on the BOSS log."

I don't know how to drop it to one card for only one specific program, I'm still learning how to work with the SLI stuff

"better mod order"

I atrtempted to follow your order, any the only issue I ran into was that NMM wouldn't allow Darnified to go above FOOK2-[DIK] DLC so I put it as high as it would allow me.

It is still crashing, but I will try and figure out how to make the system run fallout with only the one video card

Thanks

Purr4me · October 4, 2014

DarNifiedUIF3.esp Version 1.1b5 Active

Is the order of install "prior to installing any other mods, that list I made is the order in which I installed the data By mod name.

That is NOT a load order for the game running, it is an install order.

to point out:

FOOK2 - Main.ESM Version 20140427 Active This is Detected (DarNifiedUIF3.esp Version 1.1b5) During install.

No, it is an esp, it can not go above any esm unless you have tripped the flag to be a master? but still the game will not load the files in that order unless other things are done to circumvent the games Engine.

understand? in is the games mods install order that is what I posted, it does resemble a load order though, ans it will place them correctly.

The bug's comes from Loot and the data it reads. If the data is corrupted from say a bad download, then your mods will not end up in the right order nor will they work.

I installed, and modded the heck out of every mod listed here, I have now 1 single instance of Fook. 1 single instance of weather. and the others were combined into several packed up data packages into a single mod to clear slots, sorted, Debugged, tested, and debugged some more until I was satisfied the data would work correctly.

I produced a perfect set of mods for the game "fallout3" from this list. If you wish ,I can provide proof, screen shots, task manager read outs Wile running, Heck, even a clean saved game with the above data internalized in it.

you do the main game first. load and test.

exit ,load the DLC's run and test. exit. load ne mod at a time, load / test. ...exit if ok.

step by step until you find which mod caused the game to crash.

set it aside and move on to the next mod..load, run test, exit. when your done, you have bad apples sitting set aside that are Either corrupted, broken , or just plain bad. It can be the support data and NOT the plugin it's self, you can have bad mesh files, bad textures, bad xml's.

Understand? The only thing found with in Fook2 was scripted in data out of sync , Mods are made in an esp format using the geck, some authors roll into them more data with other 3rd party tools and do NOT rerun them in the geck ,I even do that, but when you need to clean the data up, you need to mess it up with the geck first, The geck will place encumbrance in NPC records but pascal and VB can not render that data when you try to edit it, ...it is listed and read as an error by the games engine....from which it sprang from. All of this is way over your head, but it all means I have been there and done a lot of things to know this. xml'x control Opt coding alignments in Nmm and fomm. that's is used to read the plugins.

Xedit needs the Engine and a master file to load any data. it needs an ini file too.....sorting tools require data it can read and use as well.

when you load the data and it is not correct, unknown corruption by load order or other, it will fail too, it's might tell you something is wrong, most of the time, it will not.

Dragonskin Tactical Outfit.esp Version 3. Active
DragonskinBonusPack.esp Active
WHSpaceMarineArmor.esp Active

Built into tactics which his built into my mod so that data is obsolete.

Mannequin.esp Version 3.3 ActiveUndergroundHideout.esp Active

That is just a simple tweak done in the actual mod and not needing this one.

I'll just get the data and post it.

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Fallout3.esm
Anchorage.esm
BrokenSteel.esm
PointLookout.esm
ThePitt.esm
Zeta.esm
Test-Fook 4.esm <----- umbrella-ed, ambrosia ,that you can sink your teeth into. removed all of WANK data.
TheInstituteFixed.esm Standard.
Vault2lol022.esm Wild ride weapons mod...Um all of them...............
TiesThatBind.esp Fixed
Faster PipBoy Light.esp
MiniHideout.esp <--used the gained slot from tweaking UGH.
UndergroundHideout.esp <- this was tweaked to match the other plugin...directly. gained a slot.
KittenExperimentalDynamicViewWeather.esp <--- This has 6 weather mods combined + Visual mods.

Got it ? that's all the data + a lot more here that you have posted about.

Zero Fose ,and I have right-hand iron sights working as intended. the only item broken from all of this is the animated *.kf files, those were made wrong, and I will probably find some day to tinker with those but not really interested in doing so.

I can not share my data so don't ask..ok? you can learn to mod the games data use the resources and find out how things work....the fun in modding is just that. learning to create things......after you have do a bit, you might find it rewarding, or boring.

coffee cups are filled with tasters choice. how many lumps to you want?

Bugg's bunny cartoons and a crazy wabbit Coyote combo.

Kitty Black.

Purr4me · October 4, 2014

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