Oblivion crashes before title screen

[SatanSoldier]

Oblivion is crashing before it gets to the title screen. If I only have the official plugins it loads fine, Some but not all mods cause it to crash. I believe only mods that have more than esp and/or bsa are causing the crash.

I have disabled the .bik files that play and have set all oblivion obse and obmm executables to run as admin.

 

Load order that fails:

Open Cities Resources.esm

Oblivion.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

Knights.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

DLCfrostcrag.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

Open Cities Full + Bravil Blood & Mud + Leyawiin Reborn.esp

 

load order that works:

Oblivion.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

Knights.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

DLCfrostcrag.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

Summon_Unicorn.esp

CastleEltz.esp

 

I've tried running it with open cities and its resources disabled and "BladeSong" enabled and it failed, so its not just OC that's causing the issue.

[GODSBANE123456]

umm oblivion.esm should always be first from as far as i can tell, and do you have none of the patches for the official plugins? and obmm should always be run as an admin

[Tomlong54210]

Oblivion is crashing before it gets to the title screen. If I only have the official plugins it loads fine, Some but not all mods cause it to crash. I believe only mods that have more than esp and/or bsa are causing the crash.

I have disabled the .bik files that play and have set all oblivion obse and obmm executables to run as admin.

 

Load order that fails:

Open Cities Resources.esm

Oblivion.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

Knights.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

DLCfrostcrag.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

Open Cities Full + Bravil Blood & Mud + Leyawiin Reborn.esp

 

load order that works:

Oblivion.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

Knights.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

DLCfrostcrag.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

Summon_Unicorn.esp

CastleEltz.esp

 

I've tried running it with open cities and its resources disabled and "BladeSong" enabled and it failed, so its not just OC that's causing the issue.

Why did you disable the BIK files? Do you use BOSS? Could you activate everything you have installed, run BOSS on it, and post the log file here? Try out the sorted load order too.

[SatanSoldier]

I disabled the .bik's because I read on UESP that they sometimes they get corrupted and can cause this behavior.

I ran boss but i dont have bash.

 

Oblivion.esm

. Note: Masterlist Information: $Revision: 788 $, $Date: 2010-04-02 12:04:08 -0700 (Fri, 02 Apr 2010) $, $LastChangedBy: pacificmorrowind $

 

Open Cities Resources.esm

 

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

. Note: Recommend installing UOP hotfix for additional fixes: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27710

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.CombatStyle,Actors.DeathItem,Actors.Stats,C.Climate,C.Light,C.Name,C.Owner,Creatures.Blood,Delev,Factions,Invent,Names,Relations,Relev,Scripts,Stats}} and remove the C.Water tag (only exist in older version).

. Note: Remember to use the 'MOBS' version when using Francesco's or FCOM.

. Note: Newest MOBS and non-MOBS versions have the same name.

 

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

 

DLCHorseArmor.esp

 

DLCOrrery.esp

 

DLCVileLair.esp

 

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

 

DLCSpellTomes.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Relev}}

 

DLCThievesDen.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Name,C.Light}}

 

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

 

DLCFrostcrag.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Name,C.Owner}}

 

Knights.esp

 

OCC-KOTN-Patch.esp

 

Open Cities New Sheoth.esp

. Requires: Shivering Isles expansion.

 

Open Cities Full + Bravil Blood & Mud + Leyawiin Reborn.esp

. Requires: Bravil Blood&Mud.

 

-----------------------------------------------------------------

Unrecognised mod files:

Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility.

-----------------------------------------------------------------

 

Unknown mod file: Summon_Unicorn.esp

Unknown mod file: CastleEltz.esp

Unknown mod file: BladeSong.esp

 

 

-----------------------------------------------------------

Done.

[Fonger]

Open Cities Full + Bravil Blood & Mud + Leyawiin Reborn.esp

. Requires: Bravil Blood&Mud.

this is your problem

 

you aren't using Blood&Mud so the game is crashing because of a missing master.

[Tomlong54210]

Open Cities Full + Bravil Blood & Mud + Leyawiin Reborn.esp

. Requires: Bravil Blood&Mud.

this is your problem

 

you aren't using Blood&Mud so the game is crashing because of a missing master.

Remove that plugin, and use the following to help put those "Unknowns" in a more appropriate position in your load order: LO Template.

[SatanSoldier]

I tried removing open cities and it components, didn't help. Then I installed mud and blood and tried with it enabled, still no go.

 

Recognised and re-ordered mod files:

------------------------------------

 

Oblivion.esm

. Note: Masterlist Information: $Revision: 788 $, $Date: 2010-04-02 12:04:08 -0700 (Fri, 02 Apr 2010) $, $LastChangedBy: pacificmorrowind $

 

Open Cities Resources.esm

 

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

. Note: Recommend installing UOP hotfix for additional fixes: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27710

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.CombatStyle,Actors.DeathItem,Actors.Stats,C.Climate,C.Light,C.Name,C.Owner,Creatures.Blood,Delev,Factions,Invent,Names,Relations,Relev,Scripts,Stats}} and remove the C.Water tag (only exist in older version).

. Note: Remember to use the 'MOBS' version when using Francesco's or FCOM.

. Note: Newest MOBS and non-MOBS versions have the same name.

 

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

 

DLCHorseArmor.esp

 

DLCOrrery.esp

 

DLCVileLair.esp

 

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

 

DLCSpellTomes.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Relev}}

 

DLCThievesDen.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Name,C.Light}}

 

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

 

DLCFrostcrag.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Name,C.Owner}}

 

Knights.esp

 

OCC-KOTN-Patch.esp

 

Blood&Mud.esp

. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Hair, NpcFaces}}

 

Open Cities New Sheoth.esp

. Requires: Shivering Isles expansion.

 

Open Cities Full + Bravil Blood & Mud + Leyawiin Reborn.esp

. Requires: Bravil Blood&Mud.

 

-----------------------------------------------------------------

Unrecognised mod files:

Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility.

-----------------------------------------------------------------

 

Unknown mod file: Summon_Unicorn.esp

Unknown mod file: CastleEltz.esp

Unknown mod file: BladeSong.esp

 

 

-----------------------------------------------------------

Done.

[Tomlong54210]

Uninstall those mods at the end for now. Install Wrye Bash and see if anything shows up red or orange. In fact, after you install Wrye Bash, post your load order through Wrye Bash.

 

Configuration - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/index.php?page=wrye_bash#Config <-- Wrye Bash

Post Your Load Order - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/index.php?page=know_how_to#PostYourLoadOrder

[Fonger]

according to a google search

 

Bravil Blood&Mud

 

isn't the basic blood&mud esp

 

its a side esp for open cities

 

and bet it needs the real Blood&Mud

 

 

 

so that implies you are still missing the esp with the full name "Bravil Blood&Mud.esp"

[Tomlong54210]

according to a google search

 

Bravil Blood&Mud

 

isn't the basic blood&mud esp

 

its a side esp for open cities

 

and bet it needs the real Blood&Mud

 

 

 

so that implies you are still missing the esp with the full name "Bravil Blood&Mud.esp"

I have used B&M for over a year, maybe two now. The full name is Blood&Mud.esp. The Bash LO will tell all about the delinquent and/or missing masters. That's what I want to see...