Eternium Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 I was a Barack Hussein Obama supporter. But when it's right in front of my face that he has broken most of his promises, has an socialist agenda, does not care of our country's security, I couldn't possibly remain supportive for this traitor. Why are the military police patrolling the streets of states such as Illinois, New York, etc, "looking for terrorists" and he will not enforce and put them where they should be on our borders. Cartels are committing acts of war on our country, threatening our sheriffs and their families. It would be so easy for an extremist to sneak some yellow cake into our country through the Mexican border but we're "looking" for them everywhere but our borders. The media painted a black face on the New World Order and seduced most of the population. I can see this as history repeating itself, Hitler, Russia, Sadam Hussein, etc etc. Whatever, excuse my rant. Maybe just take a peak here at this short video ( same as the one bellow ) and if you find it interesting then you mind find this interesting as well; The Obama Deception PS: Here's a quote from someone that seemed appropriate:"There is an online war going on right now, over 73,000 political blogs have been deleted after take down orders from the US government, critical films like this (The Obama Deception) are being censored, search terms are being removed, 'hot topics' and 'hot searches' are being censored from Google, this is WAR and its going on right now, this film is just one single battleground. " I had a hard time trying to find a link to the film, The Obama Deception which wasn't removed by YouTube or Google Fascists. Still the one I found isn't the official one from Alex Jones YouTube channel. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKkmiqsZRd8&NR=1 Alex Jones and our president's border policyhttp://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1250419 The Obama Deception Any comments are respectfully welcome, I understand we all have different opinions and views and lets try to be nice. Despite all this going on in plan sight, I'm still leaving in December for the US Army. Because I love my country, and no I don't hate immigrants, I AM AN IMMIGRANT, I came here at the age of 10, legally. The right way to enter this country and I speak english and pay taxes and love what this country is meant to stand for, it's great constitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrosocial Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 even though i hate politics I find this to be ridicules but thats just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurielius Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 The Treason Clause traces its roots back to an English statute enacted during the reign of Edward III (1327–1377). This statute prohibited levying war against the king, adhering to his enemies, or contemplating his death. Although this law defined treason to include disloyal and subversive thoughts, it effectively circumscribed the crime as it existed under the Common Law. During the thirteenth century, the crime of treason encompassed virtually every act contrary to the king's will and became a political tool of the Crown. Building on the tradition begun by Edward III, the Founding Fathers carefully delineated the crime of treason in Article III of the U.S. Constitution, narrowly defining its elements and setting forth stringent evidentiary requirements. I am far from an adherent of this current administration, it's policies, programs or social agenda but the term Treason is hyperbolic to say the least. According to West Law the definition of Treason is as follows, which I dammed if I see an applicable clause to support your contention. Under Article III, Section 3, of the Constitution, any person who levies war against the United States or adheres to its enemies by giving them Aid and Comfort has committed treason within the meaning of the Constitution. The term aid and comfort refers to any act that manifests a betrayal of allegiance to the United States, such as furnishing enemies with arms, troops, transportation, shelter, or classified information. If a subversive act has any tendency to weaken the power of the United States to attack or resist its enemies, aid and comfort has been given.The Treason Clause applies only to disloyal acts committed during times of war. Acts of dis-loyalty during peacetime are not considered treasonous under the Constitution. As much as I cannot wait for a change of administration I suggest you do the same and vote him out the old fashion way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vindekarr Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 I think calling this high treason is an over reaction and a bit juvenile. I also think you're lucky to have this "traitor" in charge. America is a nation I have the utmost respect for, but I think it has a number of problems. All nations have flaws, and I think one of the biggest that America has to deal with is its traditionalism. Its just too polarised against change. Sometimes change really is a good thing, sometimes it isnt, but completely going against all change prevents harmful policy, and great forward progress alike. I've lived in a "socialist" regime all my life and i can tell you now that even though certain people described public health care as "nazi-like" its an example of a huge step forward for the american people. Not a step towards any regime or political future, but progress towards a healthier population. Because in every country you have the poor, and a healthy poor class makes for major benefits to everyone. I personaly really like Obama. He may be very unusual among the ranks of your previous presidents, but I think that's a blessing, not curse. Obama's government really has done some good things. Strange things, as Im sure they must seem, but good things. Liberty is a strange thing, your constitution, as much as I can understand of it, is geared toward a utopian regime, with as much freedom for all Americans as is possible. But gay people are American, and forcing them underground isnt liberty, its opression. The change of military code to allow gay service people was fought against, but in passing it the Obama government has not only improved the lives of many americans, but also granted liberty to the opressed. If anything, America just needs to step back, take a break, and have a look at their nation from an outsiders perspective. They're doing a lot right governmentaly, they just need to relax some of their agression against change. As for the rest of the world, well, dangerous rogue states arent a political illusion. Iran, North Korea, Zimbabwe, and many other places would need to change their ways extensively to be part of any sort of global union, but such a union may well be something we need in the future. America is already a huge part of the main western bloc, but who is to say that the west will be the only national group they'll be allied with. just because they arent church-on-sunday catholics, and they dont speak english, doesnt mean they arent good people, or good allies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grannywils Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Aurielius: You expressed surprise when we first met that I would find you interesting or think of you as someone that I might enjoy, since you thought our politics were probably somewhat different. Your post above perfectly expresses exactly why I find you to be a person of worth and integrity. That said, I do agree with Mr. Obama and with most of his policies, although I believe he has been less than exemplary in his ability to get them implemented. My very first introduction to him was when he gave the keynote address at the Democratic convention when John Kerry was nominated. At that time I stated that this was a man who would go places and do things for our nation that had not been done in a very long time. But I also said that I was afraid that he was going to have to be the leader who made the first steps and therefore was destined to be seen as a failure. What I meant by that was that he would have to set himself up as a scapegoat. There is just so much that has to be done if we really want change. There is no way that one person or one administration in two terms can get it all done. I believe that his hope was and is that if he could get us believing that it was possible others would follow and keep the ball rolling, as it were. I am still not 100% sure if he has succeeded, as there are a lot of us who want their cake and to eat it too. And there are others who just keep on "drinking that Kool Aid". I very much appreciated the comments of Vindekarr. You don't say which Socialist regime your living under, but there is another forum somewhere on this site that discusses the differences between economic systems (not political ones, I just remembered), so forget it. Anyway, your perspective is an interesting one for me and I would hope for other Americans. That's it for me for now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant0 Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Most of whatever value you had to say was lost in the way you presented it. As topics like this are prone to attracting political activists, lunatics, and other persons whom aren't too keen on facts or understanding the situation, this thread is closed. However just so that you don't develop some persecution complex, or fall into a fit of the crazies, your post has been left unedited and in its entirety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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