ufodisko Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 (edited) Hello, I'm new to this, this is my second attempt at running skyrim with mods, this time I tried not to add too many mods and I tried to keep it as simple as possible. But I'm still crashing to desktop whenever I quick save or save from the menu, or even when I enter a dungeon or a town, it gives me the loading screen and then it crashes to desktop. I have no idea how to go about debugging this, BOSS logs say I have no errors or warning. This is my mod listhttp://i.imgur.com/PRiyB6w.jpg And this is BOSS Logshttp://i.imgur.com/m7HmCVe.jpg Please any tips and guidance as to how to fix this would be greatly appreciated. I'm on Intel Core i7-4770 3.4GHZ - 16GB ram - ASUS GeForce GTX 780 Edited October 30, 2014 by ufodisko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VerbalEarthworm Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 BOSS is no longer updated, it has been renamed as LOOT, try that: http://loot.github.io/ Will show you more errors than BOSS ever will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ufodisko Posted November 1, 2014 Author Share Posted November 1, 2014 (edited) I installed LOOT and sorted my plugins. I got thisActive Plugins 48Dirty Plugins 11Total Plugins 48Warnings 11Errors 0Total Messages 25 The warnings are all like this: Update.esmCRC: E5B67BDAC.Location, Delev, Invent, RelevWarning: Contains 92 ITM records and 3 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.It says no errors. But still crashing. Edited November 1, 2014 by ufodisko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camaro_69_327 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Soo...LOOT is telling you , you have 11 dirty mods, follow the link , install TES5Edit, and get to cleaning. Once you do one its a breeze...YES dirty mods cause crashes..(even the Official DLC's) Post the entire LOOT log...Highlight the entire right pane > Press [Ctrl + C] then in your post here use [Ctrl + V] in a spoiler TAG. Do you have ...Stable Ugrids to loadSKSE w/SKSE.ini << Memory ManagementENB ...Current version with or without Graphics, gives you the BOOST feature. (memory management). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ufodisko Posted November 1, 2014 Author Share Posted November 1, 2014 (edited) Skyrim.esmCRC: C665FD56Update.esmCRC: E5B67BDAC.Location, Delev, Invent, RelevWarning: Contains 92 ITM records and 3 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.Unofficial Skyrim Patch.espCRC: 6C2DF918Version: 2.0.3C.Acoustic, C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.ImageSpace, C.Light, C.Location, C.Music, C.Name, C.Owner, C.Water, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Relev, Sound, StatsDawnguard.esmCRC: BD72CCF3C.Location, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, SoundWarning: Contains 619 ITM records, 82 UDR records and 57 deleted navmeshes. Clean with TES5Edit.Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.espCRC: 1855702BVersion: 2.0.3C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.Location, C.Name, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Relev, Sound, StatsHearthFires.esmCRC: AF82CE6AC.Location, Graphics, InventWarning: Contains 184 ITM records, 11 UDR records and 5 deleted navmeshes. Clean with TES5Edit.Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.espCRC: A7C2D6C4Version: 2.0.3C.Climate, C.Location, C.Owner, Graphics, Invent, Names, SoundDragonborn.esmCRC: A9F83BFFC.Location, Graphics, Invent, NamesWarning: Contains 61 ITM records, 8 UDR records and 1 deleted navmeshes. Clean with TES5Edit.Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.espCRC: A32CA832Version: 2.0.3C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.Location, C.Music, C.Name, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound, StatsSkyrim Project Optimization.esmCRC: 1E80ED53Falskaar.esmCRC: 809ED26CVersion: 1.1.2ApachiiHair.esmCRC: 783F7167Version: 1.4moonpath.esmCRC: 50A19275Warning: Contains 1 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.Immersive Dragonborn.espCRC: D6707C3AdD - Enhanced Blood Main.espCRC: 7AFD4E3ENote: Requires: Dragonborn-Dawnguard_Compatibility Patch \\ Dawnguard + Dragonborn.Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.espCRC: 9229A0B4Dragon Soul Relinquishment.espCRC: E270AD1EWarning: Contains 1 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.FalskaarDawnguard.espCRC: 2389D285SkyRe_Main.espCRC: 37F846FDDelev, RelevNote: Requires: Skyrim -Community- Uncapper for full perk functionality.Note: If lockpicking is not work then try to delete 'interface\lockpickingmenu.swf'.Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install this mod.Note: To make aiming easier add the following lines to Skyrim.ini:Note: [Actor]Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000Note: [Combat]Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0More Craftables.espCRC: 3E5C851CRelevComplete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.espCRC: E3577171Immersive Weapons.espCRC: E41D31DDelev, RelevHothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.espCRC: 2A9F7DEDVersion: 7.1[object Object], [object Object]Ars Metallica.espCRC: 861C1782Version: 1.2.2Ars Metallica - Dawnguard.espCRC: 80BFAE78Version: 1.2.2Ars Metallica - Dragonborn.espCRC: 517657E4Version: 1.2.2Ars Metallica - Hearthfire.espCRC: E763DA66Version: 1.2.2TownsAndCitiesEnhanced.espCRC: A37760E6Warning: Contains 18 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.BecomeKingofSkyrim.espCRC: 7F44AB5CHothFollower.espCRC: A96903E0HothFollower UFO Patch.espCRC: 96C9B7C2Duel - Combat Realism.espCRC: 936E329BWarning: Contains 7 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.TAVEWindhelm.espCRC: 3FD0EB7ETAVESolitude.espCRC: 9F9D1C35moonpath_questdata.espCRC: 78CAE957Warning: Contains 1 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.SkyRe_StandingStones.espCRC: 196309D3WhiterunInEnhanced.espCRC: F34512E2RiverwoodEnhancedPlugin.espCRC: 5B3C0E5AWarning: Contains 4 ITM records and 5 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.TAVERiften.espCRC: 1057D425Warning: Contains 13 ITM records and 2 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.Immersive Battles.espCRC: D97B5A37Immersive Travelers.espCRC: 94800F07Immersive Patrols.espCRC: 25BDCE2DImmersive Mercenaries.espCRC: 5A0415A9Immersive Dawnguard.espCRC: A51447CARelevImmersive Werewolves.espCRC: DC28389FImmersive Brigands.espCRC: FA1D53B6Immersive Factions.espCRC: 43559326ReProccer.espCRC: 73F851F3 Do you have ...Stable Ugrids to loadSKSE w/SKSE.ini << Memory ManagementENB ...Current version with or without Graphics, gives you the BOOST feature. (memory management). I have none of those. Edited November 1, 2014 by ufodisko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuff444 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 (edited) First off you need to make it clear that this is a save issue, or mod issue. Have you just started a new game? Is this happening on all saves, or has it just started? Stuff like this will help you and others to know were to start. Load up your newest file. Open console and type player.kill, wait for reload and save in new slot to see if it worked (I doubt it will). I have had the crash on save/zoning bug before, and had to go back to an earlier save. It seems to me it can be a game issue and not mod related sometimes. Also, sometimes saves can become corrupted, even with very little mods installed. I have played skyrim for 4 years now, and have saved nearly 17,000 times! Out of these saves maybe only 15 or so have had major issues. If its a corrupted save there is likely no solution other than go to earlier saves. Quick tips: try renaming your mesh folder, then loading up the game to see if the problem is fixed. Bad meshes or mesh conflicts can cause issues like this. Clean your mods as others have suggested with TES5Edit. EDIT: You will need to get SKSE installed http://skse.silverlock.org/ , and enable the memory fix by locating the SKSE .ini file in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE There is absolutely no reason to not have SKSE, even if no mods require it, the memory fix will help out in the future. Just copy and paste these lines, and if you don't have the file create it with "new text document" [General]ClearInvalidRegistrations=1 [Display]iTintTextureResolution=2048 [Memory]DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768ScrapHeapSizeMB=256 Edited November 1, 2014 by stuff444 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ufodisko Posted November 1, 2014 Author Share Posted November 1, 2014 I just restarted the game from the beginning and it stopped crashing. All mods are even active, I don't know what fixed it. But maybe as you said, the save might have gotten corrupted. I added SKSE.ini with these 3 lines. I'm not sure exactly how to edit the mods with TES5Edit, not sure where to begin. I sure hope it keeps working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuff444 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 (edited) Glad it stopped. Just try to keep on guard with saves, sometimes you just have to go back to an earlier one to fix the issue. Example: I recently deleted all the older saves, because I assumed all my characters saves were working as normal and my save folder was getting huge. Well, all of mine were fine, but my brother's most recent save was corrupted, and you can't go any were near lake view manor or you get a ctd. Its probably a one in a thousand chance, but it happened, and my dumdass deleted all the older saves :sad: TES5Edit: Install it in you game folder Cleaning masters is the same as cleaning any .esp files from mods. Just use the list that LOOT gave you for dirty edits. Edited November 1, 2014 by stuff444 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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