OBMM 256 limit - I want to breech the Limit

[ZombieUK]

Quick and Simple.

I reached the 256 limit or FD, Im very sure there is way to go over the limit but what is it?

 

Im sure with todays technology and knowhow there must be a way.

Any solultions?

 

Thank you please.

[ub3rman123]

Merge those mods together?

[ZombieUK]

Ahh, yes stupid me. I do have quite a few house mods that could be merged together. They simple single esp files so they should pose no problem. Give me more room on my lod list.

 

Ill try it to see what happens.

[ZombieUK]

Sorry, How do you combine or Merge mods again? They just house esps that I can merge together.

[ZombieUK]

I just downloaded the TES4GECKO program as it says it can Merge esps n do alot more that I shall need in the future.

 

Lucky I found this.

[bben46]

The limit is hard coded into the game engine. That means it cannot be changed Evidently Bethesda never imagined that more than 254 would be needed by anyone. So, if you feel you need more mods than this start brushing up on how to merge mods because the limit is not going away.

There is also another lesser known limit, and that is the number of mods both active and inactive that are in the data folder. That limit is around 400 so not many people see it. It seems that Oblivion reads all mods in the data folder whether they are active or not, and if there are too many it crashes. The easy fix is to move unused mods out of the data folder

[Tomlong54210]

Troubleshooting - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/?page=troubleshooting <-- both limits described here

 

Plugin Merging - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/?page=plugin_merging

 

Turn on Bash's auto-ghosting feature. That will hide inactive (which includes merged and import-only) plugins from the game.

[ZombieUK]

Understood. I will Delete any unused Mods, merge some of the lesser mods like simple abodes, weapons etc.

 

Thank you very much to you both and kudos to you!

 

Zombie.

[ub3rman123]

Man, Bethesda didn't imagine that people would have that many mods on at a time?

 

Then again, I couldn't imagine what kinds of mods you'd be running to fill all 255 spaces. I mean, you can wear one set of armor at a time and there's only so many cells to pack new things into.

[xachan86]

Man, Bethesda didn't imagine that people would have that many mods on at a time?

 

Then again, I couldn't imagine what kinds of mods you'd be running to fill all 255 spaces. I mean, you can wear one set of armor at a time and there's only so many cells to pack new things into.

 

 

Well, you know, I'm setting up my modded oblivion and it has more than 350 esps included. On those 350 mods, maybe 10 are armour mods. The rest is a full FCOM install, combat rebalances, magic rebalances, "realism" tweaks and so on... And don't start me on Unique Landscapes!! :D They are so well done that I want to run them all, but then you have to think about the compatibility esps between them, but also with some quests and some other mods... Believe me, if you simply want to rebalance your game in a thorough way, you'll reach the 255 limit pretty quickly !!

 

By the way, if somebody could help me determine which mods I could now merge without harm, it would be of a great help. I've spent many hours installing everything according to a guide i found on the official forum, and i just don't want to make everything fall apart by merging the wrong mods together... Here's my load order :

 

 

• 00 Oblivion.esm

• 01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 0.9.9.5]

• 02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 4.5bSI]

• 03 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 4.5bSI]

• 04 Selles_et_sacoches_destrier_OBSEv3.esm

• 05 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]

• 06 TamRes.esm

• 07 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]

• 08 Mart's Monster Mod.esm

• 09 VASE - core.esm

• 0A CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm

• 0B TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]

• 0C FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]

• 0D Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35]

• 0E Artifacts.esm

• 0F Better Cities Resources.esm

• 10 BetterMusicSystem.esm

• 11 CURP_Controller.esm

• 12 CM Partners.esm

• 13 HorseCombatMaster.esm

• 14 UnnecessaryViolence.esm

• 15 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.10]

• 16 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

• 17 DLCShiveringIsles.esp

• 18 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]

• ++ Shivering OOO.esp

• 19 Better Cities .esp

• 1A TamRes.esp

• 1B Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

• 1C Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

• ++ Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp

• ++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]

• ++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]

• 1D FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]

• 1E Fran Armor Add-on.esp

• 1F Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

• 20 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 0.9.9.5]

• 21 All Natural.esp [Version 0.9.9.5]

• 22 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 0.9.9.5]

• 23 Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp

• ++ Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp [Version 0.1]

• ++ Symphony of Violence.esp

• 24 AmbientTownSounds.esp

• 25 MIS Low Wind.esp

• 26 MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp

• 27 Storms & Sound.esp

• 28 Rainbows.esp

• 29 _cities_alive_at_night.esp

• 2A WindowLightingSystem.esp

• 2B AliveWaters.esp

• 2C AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp

• 2D AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp

• 2E Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp

• 2F ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp

• 30 Chapel Tithe.esp

• ++ Dancer_Undress0_6-1175895728-TESSource.esp

• ++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.78]

• 31 Medic!.esp

• 32 BetterMusicSystem(SI).esp [Version 1.0]

• 33 Portable Campsite.esp

• 34 RAEVWD Cities.esp [Version 1.7]

• 35 RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp [Version 1.5]

• 36 RAEVWD Imperial City.esp [Version 1.7]

• ++ VA_BetterGold.esp

• 37 Xia_Nhary_TwilightAssassin.HGEC1.1Normal.esp

• 38 Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 4.2.1]

• 39 moDem's City Life.esp

• 3A Crowded Roads Advanced.esp [Version 1.3]

• 3B FF_Real_Thirst.esp

• 3C Choices and Consequences.esp [Version 2.02]

• 3D C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp

• 3E Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.5.2]

• 3F Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.5]

• 40 sr_super_hotkeys.esp [Version 0.54]

• 41 DLCHorseArmor.esp

• ++ Mart's Monster Mod - DLCHorseArmor+Slofs .esp [Version 0.90]

• 42 DLCOrrery.esp

• 43 DLCVileLair.esp

• 44 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

• 45 DLCSpellTomes.esp

• ++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]

• 46 Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp

• 47 Armory of the Silver Dragon.esp

• 48 Armures supplementaires 1.esp

• 49 Oonas_Outfitters.esp

• 4A Armures supplementaires 2.esp

• 4B Mounted_Steering.esp

• 4C Mounted_Spellcasting.esp

• 4D Mounted_Trampling.esp

• 4E Selles_et_sacoches_destrier_OBSEv3.esp

• 4F DLCThievesDen.esp

• 50 Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp

• 51 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]

• 52 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]

• 53 FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp

• 54 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

• 55 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]

• 56 Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp

• ++ FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]

• 57 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.085b]

• 58 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]

• 59 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]

• ++ OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33]

• 5A OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp [Version 1.0]

• 5B Choices and Consequences - OOO.esp [Version 2.0]

• 5C OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]

• ++ FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]

• 5D FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]

• ++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]

• 5E FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]

• 5F FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9]

• 60 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp

• 61 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp

• ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp

• 62 Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp

• 63 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp

• 64 Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp

• 65 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp

• ++ VASE - Cyrodiil for MMM.esp

• ++ VASE - Vanilla SI.esp

• ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp

• ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp

• ++ TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp [Version 1.40Alpha]

• 66 TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c]

• 67 TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp [Version 1.39c]

• 68 ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c]

• ++ ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions.esp [Version 1.39c]

• ++ FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.9]

• ++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]

• ++ FCOM_ArcheryArmamentarium.esp [Version 2]

• ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp

• ++ ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01]

• ++ ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35]

• ++ PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp [Version 1.2]

• ++ PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp [Version 1.2]

• 69 C&C - The Blackwood Company - OOO.esp

• 6A OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34]

• ++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69]

• 6B Nightshade_Armor.esp

• 6C KvatchAftermath.esp

• 6D Castle Ravenpride.esp [Version 1.01]

• 6E Ivellon.esp [Version 1.8]

• 6F Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp

• 70 Artifacts.esp

• ++ Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp [Version 1.0]

• 71 BHC_Expanded.esp [Version 1.2]

• 72 Comp_Cecilia.esp

• 73 (DC) Sutch Reborn.esp

• 74 Eyja.esp

• 75 House On The Bluff .V2.esp [Version .2]

• 76 Shezrie's Villages.esp

• 77 kingdomofAlmar.esp

• ++ 300 Feudal Empire.esp

• 78 GlenvarCastle.esp

• 79 LetThePeopleDrink.esp [Version 2.5]

• 7A Region Revive - Lake Rumare.esp

• 7B The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.4]

• 7C TheElderCouncil.esp

• 7D TheElderCouncil_TempleOfTheOne.esp

• 7E TEC_4ERA_Dialog_Filter.esp

• 7F Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp

• 80 Apachii_Heroes_Store.esp

• 81 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

• 82 DLCFrostcrag.esp

• 83 Knights.esp

• 84 SM Plugin Refurbish(Merged).esp [Version 1.30]

• 85 Choices and Consequences - SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp [Version 2.0]

• 86 TOTF.esp

• ++ TOTF Delayer.esp

• 87 RTT.esp

• 88 RTT-Weye Relocation Patch.esp [Version 2.0.1]

• 89 The Lost Spires.esp

• 8A Blood&Mud.esp

• 8B Blood&Mud - EE patch.esp [Version 4.2]

• 8C Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp

• 8D Origin of the Mages Guild.esp [Version 7.3]

• 8E TheNecromancer.esp

• 8F AFK_Weye.esp [Version 2.1.COBL]

• 90 Rumare-AFK_Weye Patch.esp [Version 2.0]

• 91 MannimarcoRevisited.esp

• 92 MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp [Version 0.1]

• 93 FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp [Version 0.9.9]

• ++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]

• ++ FCOM_Ruin.esp [Version 0.9.9]

• ++ FCOM_OMGSRT.esp [Version 0.9.9]

• 94 ElsweyrAnequina.esp

• 95 BetterMusicSystem(Elsweyr).esp [Version 1.1]

• ++ ElsweyrAnequina - Races HGEC-Robert.esp [Version 1.1]

• 96 Reaper's Esmeralda's Desert Manor.esp

• 97 road+bridges.esp [Version 4.5.7]

• 98 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.4]

• 99 LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp

• 9A xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]

• 9B xulTheHeath.esp [Version 1.1.1]

• 9C MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp

• 9D XulEntiusGorge.esp [Version 1.2]

• 9E KvatchAftermath-EntiusGorge compatibility patch.esp

• 9F TheNecromancer-EntiusGorge patch.esp

• A0 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]

• A1 LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp [Version 1.2]

• A2 TheElderCouncil-FallenleafEverglade patch.esp [Version 1.2]

• A3 Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp

• A4 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1]

• A5 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2]

• A6 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4]

• A7 HouseOnTheBluff-LostCoast fix.esp

• A8 SutchReborn-LostCoast patch.esp

• A9 OOO-UL-Sutch patch.esp

• AA xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.3]

• AB xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3]

• AC xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.2]

• AD xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]

• AE xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]

• AF Ravenview-Cloudtop-Patch.esp

• B0 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3]

• B1 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]

• B2 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.2]

• B3 MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.esp

• B4 xulPantherRiver.esp [Version 1.1]

• B5 Blood&Mud-PantherRiver patch.esp

• B6 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]

• B7 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.0.2]

• B8 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.4]

• B9 RegionReviveLakeRumare-ImperialIsle patch.esp [Version 1.3.3]

• BA xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.0.4]

• BB xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]

• BC Blood&Mud-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp

• BD TearsOfTheFiend-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp

• BE CastleRavenpride-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp

• BF DungeonsOfIvellon-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp

• C0 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2]

• C1 Lakewood+AspenWood Patch.esp

• C2 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.1]

• C3 xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0]

• C4 bartholm.esp

• C5 bartholm - EE patch.esp [Version 4.2]

• C6 Fort Akatosh Redux.esp

• C7 FortAkatoshRedux-NewRoads&Bridges patch.esp

• ++ Cyrodiil Legion Addon.esp [Version 1.3]

• C8 OTEP - Aleswell.esp [Version 1.5]

• C9 Moriarcis.esp

• CA TheNecromancer-Moriarcis patch.esp

• CB FightersGuildContracts.esp

• ++ FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp [Version 0.9.9]

• CC Better Cities - House price patch.esp [Version 1.0]

• CD RealisticFlora.esp [Version 2.7.0]

• CE RealisticFlora - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 2.7.0]

• ++ RealisticFlora - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 2.7.0]

• CF EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp

• ++ No Glow Grass.esp

• ++ JQ-PotionReplacer.esp

• ++ ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp

• D0 Enhanced Vegetation [125%].esp

• D1 Storms & Sound - Blood&Mud.esp

• D2 Storms & Sound - Better Cities.esp

• D3 RealisticHealth.esp

• D4 SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.89]

• D5 SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.86]

• ++ SM_DLCSpellTome.esp [Version 0.80]

• ++ SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.89]

• ++ SM_MMM.esp [Version 0.89]

• ++ SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.86]

• D6 SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.80]

• D7 SM_UnlockSpells.esp [Version 0.70]

• ++ SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.84]

• ++ SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.83]

• ++ bgMagicEV_Conjuration_for_Supreme_Magicka.esp [Version 1.5]

• D8 MidasSpells.esp

• D9 Midas OscuroGems.esp

• DA RenGuardOverhaul.esp

• DB Enhanced Grabbing.esp [Version 0.5]

• DC Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp

• DD DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

• ++ SM_DeadlyReflex.esp [Version 0.86]

• DE Deadly Reflex Bow Sway.esp

• DF RealisticLeveling.esp

• ++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.78]

• ++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp [Version 0.78]

• ++ Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk, reduced.esp [Version 0.78]

• ++ EVE_KhajiitFix.esp

• E0 CM Partners.esp

• E1 CM Partners More NPCs NE.esp

• E2 1stAlchemistCompanionGirl.esp

• E3 bgBalancingEVCore.esp [Version 10.52EV-D]

• ++ bgBalancingEVNoSIVersion_Core_still_required.esp [Version 10.5DV-D]

• ++ TamrielTravellers Cosmetics Cobl or RBP.esp

• E4 bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV]

• ++ bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp [Version 1.68EV]

• ++ bgMagicItemSigil.esp [Version 1.68EV]

• ++ bgMagicEVStartspells.esp [Version 1.68EV]

• E5 bgMagicBonus.esp [Version 1.7EV]

• ++ bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.68EV]

• E6 bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp [Version 1.68EV]

• E7 bgMagicAlchemy.esp [Version 1.57]

• E8 bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp [Version 1.68UV]

• ++ bgBalancingEVOptionalClasses.esp [Version 9.0EV-U]

• ++ bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]

• ++ bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp [Version 10]

• ++ bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp [Version 10.]

• E9 bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp [Version 10.51EV-D]

• ++ bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]

• ++ bgBalancingEVOptionalSeamReducerHighElfFix.esp [Version 10.0EV-D]

• EA bgIntegrationEV.esp [Version 0.993]

• EB Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp

• EC Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp

• ED BCBravilB&MFULL-Barrowfields patch.esp

• EE Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp

• EF Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.esp

• F0 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp

• F1 Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp

• F2 BCCheydinhalFULLB&M-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp

• F3 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp

• F4 BCSkingrad-SkingradOutskirts patch.esp

• F5 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp

• F6 Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp

• F7 Better Imperial City.esp

• F8 Better Imperial City - OMG.esp

• F9 Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 2]

• ++ bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp [Version 1.68]

• FA bgMagicLightningbolt.esp

• ++ Visually Enchanted 2.1.esp

• FB UnnecessaryViolence.esp

• ++ Enhanced Grabbing - Unnecessary Violence Liaison.esp [Version 0.4]

• ++ Bashed Delayers - MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.045]

• ++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]

• FC RedHeadedGang-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp

• FD MM24HourAlwaysOn.esp

 

 

Don't mind about the Armures Supplementaires 1 & 2 esps, they are armour mods I merged. Since I did that, in fact, i saw other armour mods on my load order and so modified my merged esp.

 

I have to merge mods because I'd like to activate the following mods:

Real hunger, Cobl

Sn Arrow effects

Get wet

ReallyImmersiveMessagesNoBirthsigns

sycSHOUT

sycHearNoEvil

Real Sleep Extended

Realistic Fatigue

Wayshrines Improved

UV Vanilla Quests Fixes

Persuasion Overhaul

kuerteeInventoryisabackpack

GP_Lockpicks

24hrArenaAliveV2Towers

FrbitTravel

Streamline 3.1 Patched

 

If somebody could help me...