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After Bashed Patch, Oblivion won't start.


CptAwesome91

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Title says it. Let me try to give you as much info as possible so I can hopefully get the help I need quickly. I was using some mods, all of which worked great. Then I decided to try out "All Natural" which requires Wrye Bash (which I am trying to learn, but I'm new at this and it is not a user friendly program). I followed the instructions in All Natural's readme as well as I could, in addition to these instructions for building a bashed patch.

 

All Natural's readme said to "Rebuild your Bashed Patch, selecting “Import Cells” from “All Natural.esp”. Also select “Import Cells” from “All Natural - SI.esp.” & “All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp” if you are using them." I could not figure out how to do this, so I just stuck with the instructions I linked you to above.

 

I sort of stumbled through as best I could, and I figured worst case scenario was All Natural wouldn't work and I would have to settle for something easier to install. Turns out I was wrong, now Oblivion will not start at all (whether launched through the OBSE loader or the regular Oblivion launcher). I get about a second of black screen when I start it up like it is about to work and then it just disappears and *POOF* I'm back on my desktop.

 

Can I undo the bashed patch and put things back the way they were when they worked? I'll cross the All Natural bridge when I come to it, I just want Oblivion working again with the mods I had.

 

What could have caused this problem? Please help!

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Title says it. Let me try to give you as much info as possible so I can hopefully get the help I need quickly. I was using some mods, all of which worked great. Then I decided to try out "All Natural" which requires Wrye Bash (which I am trying to learn, but I'm new at this and it is not a user friendly program). I followed the instructions in All Natural's readme as well as I could, in addition to these instructions for building a bashed patch.

 

All Natural's readme said to "Rebuild your Bashed Patch, selecting "Import Cells" from "All Natural.esp". Also select "Import Cells" from "All Natural - SI.esp." & "All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp" if you are using them." I could not figure out how to do this, so I just stuck with the instructions I linked you to above.

 

I sort of stumbled through as best I could, and I figured worst case scenario was All Natural wouldn't work and I would have to settle for something easier to install. Turns out I was wrong, now Oblivion will not start at all (whether launched through the OBSE loader or the regular Oblivion launcher). I get about a second of black screen when I start it up like it is about to work and then it just disappears and *POOF* I'm back on my desktop.

 

Can I undo the bashed patch and put things back the way they were when they worked? I'll cross the All Natural bridge when I come to it, I just want Oblivion working again with the mods I had.

 

What could have caused this problem? Please help!

 

You are experiencing a "missing master" problem. I would check to make sure that All Natural Base.esm is selected/checked. If it is not select it and try again.

 

If it is checked then something else is missing or unchecked that one of the other checked (or Bash merged) mods requires. You can use the Mod Checker that is built-in to bash - one of the icons across the bottom when you are on the mods tab. Just click on it and read the report. Pay particular attention to reports of missing or 'delinquent' mods (a required mod is mistakenly loaded after another mod that depends on it).

 

I would recommend that you acquire and run the BOSS (Better Oblivion Sorting Software) utility to check and modify (if necessary) your load order. You will have to make a change in bash before you run BOSS - on the mods tab, right-click on an entry (in the load order column) and make sure that "Lock Times" is not checked. If it is checked when BOSS runs, bash will revert the changes that BOSS makes the next time that bash is run.

 

Finally, just to go back to what you had before - just uncheck the Bashed Patch in the mod list and recheck any mods that had previously been merged by bash (and so unchecked).

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Thanks for the help. I think the problem was actually with COBL, because even after I rebuilt the patch very carefully, it still didn't work. Some of the COBL files got messed up somehow I guess. Anyway, I deleted the ones that were causing problems and rebuilt my patch again. It works just fine now!
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