How is it in your school system?

[Deleted54170User]

Oops! :blink: I expected something like school pride, from here, as it was beaten into my noggin on several occasion's as to how important it is to keep up the school spirit. :teehee: I never received strikes to the head until I got mixed up in a school fight which was probably the only one to ever take place in the gym with boxing gloves in our middle high grade school. I am not saying I did not bounce off the ground on occasion on my head, to which some strange children with television at home who must have gotten the from a comedy or a cartoon and would say, "It is a good thing you fell on your head!" :wallbash:

 

I recall in 7th or 8th grade one history teacher had a collection of paddles on his wall over the chock boards. :wacko: His last name was easy to remember because we were making an item out of wood, with a similar title when the first transformation of wood was finished, in shop.

 

Students made him a backside swatter as some sort of honorarium. One student went so far as to drill hundreds of holes in their version to allow for less wind resistance. I myself was never the fortunate receiver of such swats on the behind. :down: I thought that the act was peculiar though, because I thought our brains were our heads.:woot:

 

Maybe the smacking on the behind sent more blood to the head. Or maybe, in these days of scientific wisdom, the new part of our birthing fluids hospitals will save, is stashed near there and a good swat sends a message to them that they need to get to a higher place. :ermm: ;) It appears I could use a few of them right now, as I seem to have forgotten what the little snots are called. :sick:

 

 

I bow as I back up a little and say, "To your health! May wisdom find you before the curtain falls, (upon you) because you failed to take two steps backward before it was dropped." LOL :laugh:

[dragon6510]

I hawe a freedom of choice, I liked the forest since I was a child and often went to hunt with my father so I decided to become Forest Ranger, now I go to high-school 140 kilometers away from my home and live in the building that is ment for students who are far away from home, school is hard in both way, you have to study hard and be strong enough becouse it is full of jerks, thank god am good at both.

 

I am planing to go to University if I manage and become something more than just a ranger - expecialy becouse this time of economical crysis

[billypnats]

You would do well to add an "other option" mine doesnt fit. :) But yes, I trained as a specialist, I wanted to become a writer and an IT tech, so I studied english and drama extensively, aswell as science, technology, and history. But I had to go to the semi private university elective education/TAFE sector for my education.

 

Ugh.

 

In australia teachers are frequently allowed to verbaly abuse children who fail to meet expectations. Furthermore you have to answer the endless tests in a particular way, instead of simply giving the correct answer. I got an F for my science exam once for using string theory not newtonian physics, despite being 100% correct as I often was, being a straight A / A+ student.

 

In primary school, via an extremely well funded public school, I was bullied often by teachers either on religious or ethnic grounds. Or for simply being too golod compared to the other fools. Simple fact of the matter was the curriculum was intended for children half the age of those actualy taking the tests. Incredibly dumbed down. With "spelling" still being taught in the last year of primary, and 13 year olds being applauded and given A+s for being able to spell three letter words.

 

In high school it was even worse. Public again, very severe verbal abuse from many teachers, nazi-esque rules. Dress Code was rigidly enforced, and expulsion wasnt a set punishment for certain offences, but a "use at will" power. I saw a girl expelled for wearing a short skirt because her uniform had been rendered unwearable in a rain storm. But according to the masters, she was "dressed like a common prostitute" and "disgraced this honourable school's reputation".l Instant expulsion for "obcene dress code violation" likewise you could and would be expelled for homosexuality (3 expelled in my time) talking back to teachers (2 expelled in my time), or simply failing to meet set grades (8 expelled in my time)

 

The curriculum was... medieval. Again, just like in primary, despite being secular, all students regardless of faith were expected to pray to the christian's god at assembly and sit through an hour long, sometimes daily speach by the chaplain. I once was suspended for muttering half joking a prayer to Hel during one such prayer session. Hel, being norse godess, was considered heathen, despite my half danish ancestory, and I was banned from showing up for a week for my little joke.

 

Biology was a farce. You got three weeks of it and all it consisted of was being told what not to do. No premarital sex or god would strike you down with an STD(thats the lesson, I swear by the gods it is, lol.) No taking drugs or you would be left below, likewise for beer. They also raved against video games, and television, for "inciting obcene laziness" You also got no sex ed either. One poor girl got expelled for being caught reading the wikipedia article "human reproductive system" at which point it was decreed that wikipedia was a banend site, and that anyone who "accessed such obcene pornography" would be instantly removed.

 

Science was virtualy non existant. It was all maths and physics. Nothing to do with evolution, biology, or thermodynamics. No chemsitry or mechanics. Just maths and physics. And only einsteinian physics too, I used string theory once and got an F-.

 

I left that school before my first year ended. And I did not come back to mainstream education. After being verbaly abused infront of the class countless times, and seeing freinds physicaly abused for failure, I got so sick of the australian education system that I left mid year 8 and went to the university sector.

 

Here I finaly found civility. Here I finaly found a group who respected man's right to be himself, and respected the wonders of sciene in ALL it's many forms. I took biology, REAL biology, basic vetinary biology, and did the most study of english, language, WORLD history, drama, and the arts that I could, and came out vastly better for it. I also came out having been taught how to assemble computer, fix cars, and work sheet metal, discovering a new passion in the process: fixing broken dead cars. This was an inspiring few years, not a degrading one. I was always treated with respect for my grades, and the class was much more likeable too. We were allowed to help eachother, and it was a genuinely enjoyable time.

 

This wasnt schooling as you knw it, no year format, merely a bunch of individuals not able to get a regular education, or wanting more, allowed to come and take night classes with respect and dignity. It wasnt put acorss as remedial-far from it, most of us there had either had to leave school early, for a vast array of reasons, or were there wanting to do the subjects they'd had to miss prior to uni.

 

 

I only have 1st year physics in my bonkers, but how do you take string theory, which is still a theory and not even proved yet, not only that but its based upon postulates that are only valid on a quantum scale and apply it to Newtonian physics. and besides... loop gravity ftw... NOT THAT ITS INFLUENCED MY DECISION TO MAKE THIS POST!

[brokenergy]

String theory is a quantum mechanics theory, it has nothing to do with classical physics. Plus a lot of physics are theoretical now as the technology required is not invented yet, for example relativity took 70 years after Einstein stated it to be proven. As for your definition of a theory you should really consult your dictionary as theory in colloquial terms are different from a scientific term.

 

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/theory+

[billypnats]

String theory is a quantum mechanics theory, it has nothing to do with classical physics. Plus a lot of physics are theoretical now as the technology required is not invented yet, for example relativity took 70 years after Einstein stated it to be proven. As for your definition of a theory you should really consult your dictionary as theory in colloquial terms are different from a scientific term.

 

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/theory+

sorry my personal connotation of theory always meant something that is conformed to fit observations rather than something confirmed by observations....

we should make another thread about this discussion (maybe physicsforums.com ?) or else we'll be hijacking teh thr3ad, my fault sorry

 

but anyway school here in ALberta Canada is good all the schools i went to had cool, competent and knowledgable teachers rather than the pompous one that the other guy had, only problem with alberta education is how they kept on dumbing things down (removing core topics from courses and removing written portions of diploma exams to save 2 million dollars =.= )

[brokenergy]

True... but that's for another discussion. I went to my old high school, man they really changed it in the last few months. They have an electronic billboard and they are building a new hall.

[Deleted54170User]

http://dictionary.re.../browse/theory+

sorry my personal connotation of theory always meant something that is conformed to fit observations rather than something confirmed by observations....

we should make another thread about this discussion (maybe physicsforums.com ?) or else we'll be hijacking teh thr3ad, my fault sorry

 

 

Hey! Keep talking about that kind of stringy stuff here. Maybe start another thread for it here? All of you might wake up a slumbering dampened mind who would awaken and realize they have knowledge that might help fill in the gaps of your theorem.

 

Wouldn't that be weird science? o_O Think about it! If that movie about the janitor being a genius but no one realized and he never realized it, the movie, "Good Will Hunting" would have never been made. Drop those hints here and there and everywhere! Let people with a curious node in their :geek: bunker find out if your talking about real science :geek: or pulling their strings :laugh: :teehee: :turned: :laugh:.

 

Life goes on!

[brokenergy]

You know that there was a comedy about that.

[XanAlderon]

I'm currently doing year 10 in a small public Australian country school. Nothing is particularly bad, I mean sure 90% of all students in years 7,8 and 9 are incredibly stupid, we are still using heaters deemed "unsafe" by the government, internet censorship is really bad with sites blocked under "entertainment" and "humor" and yesterday a teacher left after being hit on the head by a rock. However bad all this is, I still regard my school as being a good learning environment. As bad as most students are, the teachers are nice and take pains to make sure your learning. The subject list is short but distance-ed courses are available and no ones views are pressed onto you.

 

The only real problem is the computers, ignoring the internet which is nearly unusable with the white-list system they use the actual computers are near useless. The Department of Education have background checks constantly running in the background which slow the computers to a pain staking crawl. It also of note that the other day I was banned from the computers for the crime of playing a game, the time I can get back on is given as "when I feel like it".

 

The school itself is good yet is brought down by pointless, ignorant and stupid government polices.

[brokenergy]

Yeah, I hate the Department of Education too Xan. I had to do a research project so I decided to go the LG official website for some preliminary research but they blacklisted it. There is something about the government that is so amusing...