Amelorn Posted July 11, 2006 Author Share Posted July 11, 2006 The Empire wasn't always there. The Dragonfire wasn't burning from time immemoriam. That story had a beginning (with Alessia and the convenant with Akatosh). It began when another story came to its end. We are now at the end of the story. But its far from The End, because another drama will begin to unfold its leaves within this vacuum. But all in all, I'm still on the eternal quest to collect enough Nirnoot so Sinderion can brew up the Grand Elixir. Greedy lil' Altmer... :glare: I think you missed the point. My point was that the main quest was to save the empire. Ultimately, our characters fail. BTW, i know the story of St. Alessia using the amulet to seal off oblivion in order to deprive the Ayleids of their armies.Our character does not fail! The empire was saved from being conquered by Mehrunes Dagon! Just because there is no emporer does not mean we fail. The Elder Council with Chancellor Ocato can handle the ruling. The only reason we needed an Emperor was to light the Dragonfires to protect Tameriel from Oblivion. But somehow, Martin doing his dragon thing and defeating Mehrunes protects from Oblivion, so the Dragonfires are no longer needed. I don't know where you're getting the idea we failed. Magistrates can never replace an emperor. I would give them 2 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryocry Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 I suppose martin became a god like tiber septim Maybe, maybe not. Who knows? There might be another divine, Martin Septim, Avatar of Akatosh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhydderch Hael Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Magistrates can never replace an emperor. I would give them 2 months.Two words: Akaviri Potentates (apparently, the one word word Lynda Carter cannot pronounce correctly ;) ) They lasted a fair longer than two months and, by some indications, they weren't even human! Uhhhhh... I said GET THE AMULET, didn't I? Then he lights the Dragonfires, then he's the emporer, so you don't have to waste a perfectly good daedric artifact for that one quest.You— haven't actually played the game, have you? Your order of events makes no truthful sense. You need to surrender a Daedric artifact, scrounge around for the blood of a Divine, and snag the big honkin' Sigil Stone in order to make chase of Mankar Camoran and get the bloody Amulet back! Without which, of course, Martin may just as well start selling hot cross buns for the Daedric Wars Widows' Fund, an everlasting charity for an everlasting conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryocry Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Magistrates can never replace an emperor. I would give them 2 months.Two words: Akaviri Potentates (apparently, the one word word Lynda Carter cannot pronounce correctly ;) ) They lasted a fair longer than two months and, by some indications, they weren't even human! Uhhhhh... I said GET THE AMULET, didn't I? Then he lights the Dragonfires, then he's the emporer, so you don't have to waste a perfectly good daedric artifact for that one quest.You— haven't actually played the game, have you? Your order of events makes no truthful sense. You need to surrender a Daedric artifact, scrounge around for the blood of a Divine, and snag the big honkin' Sigil Stone in order to make chase of Mankar Camoran and get the bloody Amulet back! Without which, of course, Martin may just as well start selling hot cross buns for the Daedric Wars Widows' Fund, an everlasting charity for an everlasting conflict. No, no, no, no. Let me lay it out for you:1) Escape from prison with the Amulet of Kings, Uriel Septim gets assassinated2)Bring the amulet to Jauffre3)get Martin4)do all that stuff until you get the part where you have to go to Lake Arrius Caverns5)SHOOT MANKAR CAMOREN WITH AN ARROW OR ON TARGET SPELL AND TAKE THE AMULET OF KINGS OFF HIS CORPSE6) destroy all who appose the empire in the caverns7)take the Amulet to Martin8)take him to the Imperial City, Temple District so he can light the Dragonfires9)Martin gets a queen and does her hard to get his heirs, maybe pays a hookerTHE END Oh yeah, I believe it was cleaned after Akatosh ripped his heart out (...get the bloody amulet back...) And what are hot cross buns? Are they some sort of bun baked on hot days on railroad tracks? And the dremora "widows" would come in Dremora boots, greaves, cuirass, perhaps gauntlets, a helmet, and a shield. Was that intended as a joke? But I need to have the first two questions answered. And about the Akaviri Potentates...From what I read in the series about the 2980(?) year of the first era, they're not very trustworthy! They paid the Morag Tong to kill Remen III! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant0 Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 First thing I did in that cave was try and kill him while he's standing there blathering away. Apparently you aren't allowed to for some silly reason. I suspect that whatever binds him to dagon makes him immortal and fuses the amulet to his chest. It would be nice if it was that simple though. Then again, that saves what, about 2 hours of sprinting through oblivion towers out of the game. Martin would still probably become a divine, and you'd still have to deal with a very pissed off Mythic Dawn. All in All, the main quest did seem awfully short. Think even Tribunal required more play time. I guess TES is going the way of everything else, more flashy graphics, less depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhydderch Hael Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 ... And the dremora "widows" would come in Dremora boots, greaves, cuirass, perhaps gauntlets, a helmet, and a shield. Was that intended as a joke? ...Fine. You want to belittle folks by taking every single 'bloody' word by their face value, then let's have a little lesson in grammar: Daedric Wars Widows' Fund. "Daedric Wars"— note that the second word is in plural form. This means the adjective "Daedric" is modifying the noun "Wars"— not the noun "Widows". Thus, this implies a Fund for the Widows of the Daedric Wars, not that the "Wars Widow's" (which is grammatically incorrect, since "Wars" is not a possessive noun) are themselves Daedric in nature. Or all those guards getting ground down in Battle of Bruma unmarried... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagrant0 Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Or all those guards getting ground down in Battle of Bruma unmarried... Well, think about it, in Bruma there are what, 5-6 women, most of them are married. If there are 12+ guards, either the guards have their wives locked away in their foot lockers, or they're all married to the same person. Wouldn't be too hard to keep going, they all sound the same and answer to the same name. Just need to find a woman with a thing for helmets. Seriously though, personal attacks are stupid, It's not Cryo's fault that he is unlearned about the power of the hot cross bun. If anything, it only shows his age, or lack of, or at the very least a sheltered life. The point of the matter is discussing how the story really falls apart if you were allowed to kill anyone. Hell, much of the story could have been prevented just by holding onto the damn thing while going to get martin. But no, you step away from waynon priory for 5 mins, and suddenly things get complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhydderch Hael Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 I dunno... Everyone keeps saying Skjorta should settle down, and she does tend to run around the streets of Bruma in the dead of night. This could all have been prevented if the Emperor hadn't stood there like a chump with that vapid smile on his face as that Mythic Dawn assassin— the last one alive— planted a shiv between his shoulder blades. Such rampant apathy almost makes me glad his line was coming to an end— we don't need those genes floating in the pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryocry Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Daedric Wars Widows' Fund. "Daedric Wars"— note that the second word is in plural form. This means the adjective "Daedric" is modifying the noun "Wars"— not the noun "Widows". Thus, this implies a Fund for the Widows of the Daedric Wars, not that the "Wars Widow's" (which is grammatically incorrect, since "Wars" is not a possessive noun) are themselves Daedric in nature. Or all those guards getting ground down in Battle of Bruma unmarried... >:( Grrrrr... The women are widows resulting from Daedric wars. And what does bloody mean? I don't get it. Words are only bloody if blood gets on them. AND WHAT THE HELL ARE HOT CROSS BUNS? TELL ME! NOW! >:( >:( >:( Seriously though, personal attacks are stupid, It's not Cryo's fault that he is unlearned about the power of the hot cross bun. Wait, a hot cross bun is a holy relic only found in a secrect church high in the mountains of England? ;D ;D ;D Hey, is it a lost religion to worship buns? ;D That didn't come out right. Ok: Hey, is it a lost religion's custom to worship something baked in an oven and meant to be eaten? Ha ha ha ha ha... ;D . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stampede Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Keep this thread on topic please. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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