I need some help Please!

[Darder]

Hello , I am new around here, but not with mods.

 

I have installed recently a couple of mods. In this list featuring :

 

- Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul

- Tyrael's Armor

- kuertee Sittable Rocks

- kuertee Customisable HUD component

- Realistic Fatigue

- Realistic Health

- Real sleep extended

- 7lbs Portable bedrolls

- Oblivion Cats

- Cyrodill Crossbows

- CustomizableHUDComponent Config Settings for -Real- mods

- Real hunger

- Real Hunger cobl

- FF real thirst

- FF real thirst COBL

- Inventory is a backpack

- Saddle bag

- Cobl

- Pluggy

 

Now for my problems. I have several issues with my mods.

 

First Problem : With OOO , normally , there is the option of Drop Lit Torches. I equipped the hotkey , used it , and everything was just working fine. I exited the game . I installed the rest of the mods of my list. Then , when I came back in game , something was wrong. I had actually 4 Torchs in my inventory . Let me explain. I had 1 "Use Torch Hotkey" , which was already assigned to "1". Then there is a second Torch , which is the torch pack (Number of remaining torches , stacked.) The third and fourth torches looked EXACTLY the same. Same name , equipable with both the same effect (A torch in my hand which is making light) . The difference is there. I was having the third torch equipped. When I drop that torch from the inventory to the ground , the torch isnt lightened on the ground. When I take it back , it stacks with the rest of the torches. The fourth torch , tought , doesnt stack. When I equip that Fourth torch , it appears to be a normal torch in my hand. But when I drop it on the ground.... It is a lit torch. Like the one from Drop lit torches, But it isnt producing Any light. But I can see the fire at the edge , it is lit , but doesnt produce any light.

 

 

Here comes the problem. When I equip a torch with the torch hotkey , it equips a torch from the stack (Doesnt equip the fourth torch) . And when I try to drop that torch on the floor by either readying my weapon or when having my weapon unshealted pressing the equip torch hotkey , no torch drops. Nope. It equips a torch , like if drop lit torches wasnt enabled. It equips and unequips a torch. And when I throw out all my torches on the floor and only picking the fourth torch , I cant equip it using the hotkey. It says "I dont have any torches". When I take all the torches but not the fourth one , and try to equip one with the hotkey , it equips one that cant be drop lit on the ground by the Drop Lit torches methods. I try to load older savegames , but they all have the same problem. Before , Drop lit torches was working perfectly.

 

I cant sit on any rocks. I dont even know why . My kuertee Sittable rocks is enabled and in the last of the load order. I dont understand.

 

None of the new HUD bars appears. Its like if I never installed it. But it IS installed. So I have no Ecumbrance bar , no tiredness bar , no hunger bar andno thirst bar.

The Hunger thing is working , since I have the dinner plate and when I use it and eat some stuff it says "Yummy , that was good. That stuffed me" or soemthing like that. But , I dont have any bars or stuff that tells me if im hungry or not. Same goes for the thirst , and the sleep. For the Real sleep extended , I have messages that tells me : I can go for "# of hours" before getting tired.

 

Realistic fatigue kinda overwrites OOO stuff. I didnt tested with the melee weaps , but with the bows.... With OOO , normally , your fatigue decreases when holding an arrow in your bow. And when you release that arrow , the speed and the damage of the vanilla oblivion arrows are increased. I can kill a rat in one shot. But now with realistic fatigue enabled , My fatigue doesnt decreases while holding an arrow in my bow anymore. Also , the damage and speed of the arrow are set back to Vanilla values. I kill a rat in 2 hits. Also , I dont get any of the blur effect. Same goes for the health.

EDIT : Now its gone worst. My fatigue doesnt even decrease with my arrow in the bow when Im not using any of the realistic mods , but using OOO.

 

I think those are pretty much my problems. I dont know how to fix them.

 

I have Oblivion latest version (1.2.416) . I am on steam , and yes all my mods worked fine , but not those. OOO was working fine before I quit my game and install realistic stuff and hud.

I install all my mods with OBMM. Or most of my mods.

 

I have Wrye bash , even if I use it only for the load order.

 

I have obse , the last version that was out.

 

I dont know what to do and how to fix those. I kinda feel bad.

 

Thanks for helping me!

 

Darder

[Domas]

First of all, post your load order via Wrye Bash. Simply listing random mods which you have randomly installed recently doesn't do much good.

 

Right click File under the Mods tab, select list mods, and paste the entire code into a post.

 

Do you use BOSS?

 

Do you use a Bashed Patch? Generally with a heavily modded game, it becomes necessary to use a bashed patch.

 

Check out Wrye Bash and all of its utilities here.

[Darder]

I did exactly what you asked me , this is the result.

 

 

Active Mod Files:
00  Oblivion.esm
01  beeratcompil_ironrust.esm
02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9.5]
03  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]
04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.33]
05  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]
06  DurableEquipment_2.esp
07  ChaseCameraMod.esp
08  No psychic guards v1.2.esp
09  CallSteed3.0a.esp  [Version 3.0]
0A  _darker_nights_for_nat_env.esp
0B  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]
0C  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]
0D  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]
0E  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
0F  Natural_Weather_non-HDR_2.1.2_bugfree.esp
10  dyseso_Alchemy_Potion_Perks.esp
11  HarderRepairs_2.esp
12  Quest Award Leveling.esp
13  Quest Award Leveling - Finger of the Mountain.esp
14  DurableEquipment_5.esp
15  Midas OscuroGems.esp
----> Delinquent MASTER: MidasSpells.esp
16  ANB_Dynamic_Regen.esp
17  Book Jackets Oblivion VF.esp
18  Streamline 2.0.esp
19  Anneau de Morphologie.esp
1A  Light Repair Hammers.esp
1B  Mounted_Spellcasting.esp
1C  VA_BetterGold_2.0fr.esp
1D  ChevauxdeSlof Essential.esp
1E  Update My Statue.esp  [Version 1.30]
1F  darker nights for shivering isles.esp
20  personality_idles3b.esp
21  Short Grass V3.esp
22  NW-Storms & Sound SI.esp
----> Delinquent MASTER: NaturalWeather.esp
23  ChevauxDeLaLégionEnArmuresSlof.esp  [Version compatible]
24  JJR'sWhiskers and Eyebrow.esp
25  Beautiful People.esp
26  Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
27  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
28  DLCFrostcrag.esp
29  Get Wet.esp
2A  Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
2B  MidasSpells.esp
2C  diversegrasses.esp
2D  DLCHorseArmor.esp
2E  Real Lava 1.3.esp
2F  WindowLightingSystem.esp
30  Gloves.esp
31  Tegeals Extra Robes.esp
32  Improved Water.esp
33  Wine Overhaul.esp
34  Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp
35  Knights.esp
36  DLCSpellTomes.esp
37  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
38  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]
39  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
3A  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]
----> Delinquent MASTER: Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
3B  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp  [Version 1.39c]
3C  TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp  [Version 1.39c]
3D  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]
3E  Living Economy.esp
3F  Living Economy - Items.esp
40  Cutthroat Merchants.esp
41  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions.esp  [Version 1.39c]
42  FineWeapons for OOO.esp
43  Oblivion Cats v0.2b.esp
44  RealisticEye.esp  [Version 0.1]
45  Tyrael Armor.esp
46  BrighterTorches_v1.2.esp
47  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.33]
48  RustyItems for OOO.esp
49  Crossbows of Cyrodiil.esp
4A  OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp  [Version 1.33]
4B  OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp  [Version 1.33]
4C  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]
4D  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]
4E  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
4F  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
50  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]

 

 

I may also have a coupel of mods that arent listed here , since they are only Meshes and textures without any esps.

2 of them are : Silver Ranger , Arrow Replacement Pack.

 

I dont have / use BOSS.

 

I dont know how to use the Bashed patch. I press rebuild patch , but I dont understand anything in it. I searched for hours to see tutorials , but I really dont understand anything with the bashedpatch. I saw the official site , and I still dont understand anything with the bashed patch.

 

EDIT : I think ive got rid of the torches problem. I reinstalled OOO , and torches seems to work fine. Still , the HUD , realistic fatigue , realistic health , real sleep extended , Sittable rocks , FF real thirst (Non cobl and COBL) , Real hunger ( non cobl and cobl) still doesnt work properly.

[Domas]

That is one ugly load order. Seriously, download, install, and run BOSS. I guarantee it will fix half of the problems you're having with your game. For one your bashed patch should be loaded LAST. Not halfway up your load order. Only exception (there are a few, but this one comes to mind) is if you're running streamline. Regardless, don't worry about it and just run BOSS.

 

Here's a quick overview of what you should do every time you add/remove something from your mod list...

 

-Open Wrye Bash

-Run BOSS

-Select every mod under "Mods" tab (Click bottom, shift+click top)

-Right click, mark mergeable

-Right click bashed patch, rebuild.

 

Always make sure your Merge Patches, Imports, and Leveled Lists are checked. Also Cobl Catalogs since you use Cobl.

 

Tweaks are optional.

 

I've also heard of running TES4LODGen every time you change your Load Order, but I'm not sure really the purpose. It wouldn't hurt to do it anyway.

[Darder]

Okay. So It will merge all mods if I just mark em mergeable and rebuild the patch? And if I disable some mods , it will disable them from the patch too?

[Darder]

Ive done what you said.

 

Does this mean that I can now Intall the hud component , hunger mod , fatigue mod , sleep extended and it will work with OOO and my other mods too? And my fatigue will still be drained while using bows AND will have the effects of realistic fatigue?

[Darder]

GOD DAMN!

 

Ive done exactly what you said , and now the game doesnt even want to lauch.

 

What do I do now?

[Domas]

Ive done what you said.

 

Does this mean that I can now Intall the hud component , hunger mod , fatigue mod , sleep extended and it will work with OOO and my other mods too? And my fatigue will still be drained while using bows AND will have the effects of realistic fatigue?

 

Every time you make a change to your load order (adding or removing mods, activating/deactivating mods, etc...) you should rebuild your bashed patch.

 

And yes, if you installed them correctly, and they are compatible, and are using BOSS/Bashed Patch, I see no reason why they wouldn't work. I don't use the "realism" mods such as those, so I can not go into specifics without downloading and testing each of them out myself.

[Domas]

GOD DAMN!

 

Ive done exactly what you said , and now the game doesnt even want to lauch.

 

What do I do now?

 

lol we posted those at the exact same time, so I didn't notice. All I can suggest is make sure Oblivion is fully patched, 1.2, you have the latest BOSS masterlist.txt in your oblivion\data\ directory.

 

Other than that make sure all your mods are up to date, and pay special attention to the BOSSlog.txt that pops up after you run it.

 

If all else fails then I'm not sure what could be causing the problem, and maybe someone else could shed some light on this situation? It's possible certain things weren't installed correctly. Did you ever edit the Oblivion.ini located in Documents\My Games\Oblivion\? Take a look at your Oblivion\Data\ directory as well to make sure everything "looks" right. In my experience, OBMM is goofy in that it wouldn't install certain things correctly, and I would have to manually go in and merge folders to where they belong. Only time I ever use OBMM now is when a mod is bundled with OMOD conversion data.

[Darder]

Well , after reviewing my files and mods I found the problem.

 

I had one deactivated esp , which I knew was crashing the game once activated. Using the bashed patch , it merged that esp.... So I had to delete it to be able to run Oblivion again. It was a useless esp , so no problems.

 

The OOO Drop lit torches is kinda buggy. So I reinstalled OOO , choosing not to use it and then downloaded Drop Lit Torches OBSE separatly. Now it all works very fine.

 

Thanks for teaching me how to get to work that bashed patch.

 

I still havent tryed those realism mods. I may want to use them later , but not just now.