Very, very messed up interiors

[Ultragamer2005]

I am using the Steam version of Oblivion Deluxe, which comes with all the DLC plus Shivering Isles and Knights of the Nine. I haven't had many problems like this before, but recently I have encountered a game breaking interior bug.

 

I think a picture can explain it better than I can.

 

http://a.imageshack.us/img838/2801/oblivion201008211304127.th.jpg

 

Here is my mod list, with the mods I have tried deactivating having an X in front of them:

 

Oblivion.esm
Cobl Main.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
CM Partners.esm X
HorseCombatMaster.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
Natural_Weather_HDR_2.1.2_bugfree.esp
Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
PowerAttack Voicemod - The Shivering Isles.esp
Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp
Immersive Combat Music.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp
severianskatanas1_2.esp X
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Cobl Si.esp
Cobl Tweaks.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
OOO-Water_Weeds.esp
OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp
OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp
AshTentMod.esp
VypersAstralStorage.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCfrostcrag.esp
FrostcragRebornCobl.esp
Knights.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp
Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp
SkycaptainsBloodTime.esp
SupremeMagicka.esp
SM_ShiveringIsles.esp
SM_DLCSpellTome.esp
SM_OOO.esp
SM_COBL.esp
SM_EnchantStaff.esp
SM_Scrolls.esp
SM_SigilStone.esp
bgMagicEV_Conjuration_for_Supreme_Magicka.esp
MidasSpells.esp
Midas OscuroGems.esp
Midas Betterholy.esp
Midas Reduced Costs Half.esp
Midas PowDur2x.esp
Midas Eldrich Power 2x.esp
Midas Tigernolevel OBSE.esp
Midas BeastFortify Fix OBSE.esp
LeveledMagicka.esp
dyseso_Light_Ingred_Appar.esp X
RshAlchemy.esp X
RshAlchemyRecipes.esp X
StealthOverhaul.esp X
StealthOverhaul, Cobl.esp X
Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp
DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
SM_DeadlyReflex.esp
Enchanting Skill.esp
RetroHealth.esp
Grandmaster of Alchemy.esp X
Level_Rates_Modified_x2.esp
CM Partners.esp X
CM Partners Special NPCs.esp X
CM Partners NPC.esp X
CM Partners More NPCs.esp X
CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp X
CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp X
bgMagicEV.esp
bgMagicItemSigil.esp
bgMagicEVStartspells.esp
bgMagicBonus.esp
bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp
bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp
bgMagicAlchemy.esp
bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp
bgMagicEVShader.esp
bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp
bgMagicLightningbolt.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
SellCrapTheThird.esp - Self-made mod, doesn't alter this cell
Easy Storage.esp
MuffinShare.esp
drAnEnchantingMerchant.esp
MagesGuildPortalTowerV1.2.esp X

Very bloated list, I know. I am certain this is a mod-based bug. I fixed it a while ago, but I installed some other mods and it came back again. I tried deactivating the mods that may have caused this, but it didn't seem to do anything.

 

This isn't the only cell that is glitched, either. The sewers tend to be rather distorted, too. Any idea what mod is infamous for causing these problems?

[DavidBudreck]

If, by "Game Breaking" you are referring to the bottomless woman, then please see the discussion "armor mods problem...help!" on this page of this forum. I just went through explaining the easiest way to fix that. You are missing meshes from one of your mods.

 

 

I can't tell if the door is a problem, or if it is just too far away to be picked up in this picture.

[Ultragamer2005]

If, by "Game Breaking" you are referring to the bottomless woman, then please see the discussion "armor mods problem...help!" on this page of this forum. I just went through explaining the easiest way to fix that. You are missing meshes from one of your mods.

 

 

I can't tell if the door is a problem, or if it is just too far away to be picked up in this picture.

Er, no, click on the thumbnail to see the full image.

 

I mean that the individual parts of the cell are displaced. Like, the door is in the wall, the stairs are in the table and not leading to the upstairs door which is floating in the middle of empty space. This is gamebreaking because once you get stuck in the inn, you can't get out without using TCL.

 

Also, I don't see a bottomless woman.

[DavidBudreck]

Sorry, from the angle of the picture I had not noticed the stairs. To me it looks like the woman has no lower body.

 

 

The stairs and bookcase are happening because two mods have edited the same cell, and this is kind of just part of life with modded Oblivion.

 

When this happens you have basically 4 options:

1. A pretty big long shot, but occasionally there are compatibility patches between mods.

2. Deal with it.

3. Deactivate one of the mods.

4. Edit one of the mods yourself to make it compatible with the other (thereby making your own patch).

 

 

To find out which mod(s) is or are getting funky, you can use Refscope. Refscope is a VERY Nifty tool for sorting out these types of incompatibilities!

 

Refscope

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=21862

[Ultragamer2005]

Funnily, I installed that and it caused an instant CTD even when put in proper load order. No idea why.

[DavidBudreck]

Whew! No Refscope? Then that makes this much more difficult. Guessing which mod or mods are conflicting will be laborious to say the least. How much does it bother you? Because you're basically reduced to deactivating mods one at a time until you find the one that is causing trouble.

 

What tavern is this?

 

(I have NO idea what to do about Refscope causing a CTD.)

[Ultragamer2005]

Whew! No Refscope? Then that makes this much more difficult. Guessing which mod or mods are conflicting will be laborious to say the least. How much does it bother you? Because you're basically reduced to deactivating mods one at a time until you find the one that is causing trouble.

 

What tavern is this?

 

(I have NO idea what to do about Refscope causing a CTD.)

It's the Merchants inn in the Imperial Market. The sewers tend to be somewhat like this, too.

 

I think I can fix it, I fixed it before. I ran a conflict detection to see which mods alter this cell, and am going to try disabling them.

[Shadowfen]

Whew! No Refscope? Then that makes this much more difficult. Guessing which mod or mods are conflicting will be laborious to say the least. How much does it bother you? Because you're basically reduced to deactivating mods one at a time until you find the one that is causing trouble.

 

What tavern is this?

 

(I have NO idea what to do about Refscope causing a CTD.)

 

Perhaps he can use 'What's That From?' instead.

[DavidBudreck]

I am not familiar with "What's That From?".

 

And there are way too many mods in this list that I do not recognize for me to even venture a guess as to which is the culprit.

[Ultragamer2005]

Ok, I just did a quick check, and the problem is actually oblivion.esm's fault.

 

I can easily redownload it by deleting it, cutting and pasting the folder and letting Steam redownload it.