ElricOfGrans Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 I have installed Better Redguards, but am not really noticing much of a difference. Faces are the same for all NPCs. When I make a character, the male body is much darker, but the female body is unchanged, and when I make the face (for both genders) it still uses the old textures. The obvious bits:* For NPC faces, it says to not use TNR The Redguards. I use COBL, which includes all parts of TNR bundled in with no option to exclude individual ones. I am guessing this is the cause of the issue, but I have seen no mention of incompatibility nor compatibility patches anywhere.* For bodies, I use Robert's Male and TGND Female. I guess Robert's is compatible, but not TGND, however TGND should be compatible with anything HGEC.* For faces, the instructions say to use the Reset Face button when starting. I do this and see the briefest possible flash (I barely notice it) of a darker texture before it reverts to the original one. It looks as though it almost works, but something else is overriding it immediately after. This is my modlist: Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 ScreenEffects.esm 02 All Natural Base.esm [Version 0.9.9.5] 03 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm 04 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm 05 MD_Saddle_Master.esm 06 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] 07 Qarls_Harvest.esm 08 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3] 09 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm 0A Better Cities Resources.esm ** Cobl Races TNR.esp [Version 1.53] ** Cobl Races TNR SI.esp [Version 1.53] 0B Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.10] 0C Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp 0D DLCShiveringIsles.esp 0E Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0] 0F SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp [Version 1.30] ** Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp ** DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp 10 Better Cities .esp 11 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 0.9.9.5] 12 All Natural.esp [Version 0.9.9.5] 13 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 0.9.9.5] 14 Enhanced Water v2.0 ND.esp ++ Symphony of Violence.esp 15 AmbientTownSounds.esp 16 MIS Low Wind.esp 17 MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp 18 Atmospheric Oblivion.esp ++ Drum_Fix.esp 19 Storms & Sound.esp 1A LightsOut.esp 1B Cities Alive At Night.esp 1C WindowLightingSystem.esp 1D AliveWaters.esp 1E AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp 1F AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp 20 Book Jackets Oblivion.esp 21 ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp 22 ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp 23 Display Stats.esp [Version 1.2] 24 ImprovedSigns.esp ++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76] 25 Musical Immersion 1.0.esp 26 P1DseeYouSleep.esp 27 Purge Cell Buffers - Loading.esp [Version 1.0.0] 28 Qarls_Harvest.esp 29 Quest Log Manager.esp [Version 1.2] 2A RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp [Version 1.5] ++ RealWalk.esp 2B Harvest[Containers].esp 2C FF_Real_Thirst.esp 2D Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.5.1] 2E Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.5] 2F Book Jackets DLC.esp ++ MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp 30 tkRapiers.esp 31 TGND.esp 32 TGND_SI.esp 33 TGND_Corsets_of_the_Rose.esp 34 TGND Fantabulous Formal Dresses.esp 35 TGND_Lingerie_Underwear.esp 36 TGND_EY_Vampirehunter.esp 37 TGND - Sinblood's Fantasy Mage.esp 38 Ryk_AtholBrose.esp 39 Dude Wheres My Horse.esp 3A MD Saddlebags v3.0.esp ++ Francesco's Optional Vendor Tweaks.esp 3B Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests.esp 3C Francesco's Optional Leveled Arena.esp 3D Francesco's Optional Files 2.esp 3E Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72] 3F Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] 40 FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp ++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44] 41 Mart's Monster Mod for Fran.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 42 Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp [Version 3.7b3p] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 43 Mart's Monster Mod - Fran's leveled quests.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Reduced Reduced.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 44 Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 45 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 46 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 47 Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 48 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3f] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ++ Atmospheric Oblivion - MMM Patch.esp ++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69] 49 TamrielTransportationNetwork.esp 4A TamrielTransportationNetwork Vwalk.esp 4B EM_CompInnsleeping.esp 4C Kvatch Rebuilt.esp 4D Kvatch Rebuilt Vwalk.esp 4E LetThePeopleDrink.esp [Version 2.5] 4F The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.3.2] 50 The Ayleid Steps Vwalk.esp 51 Knights.esp 52 Knights - Book Jackets.esp ** Knights Vwalk.esp ++ SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp [Version 1.06] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Knights.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 53 The Lost Spires.esp 54 The Lost Spires Vwalk.esp 55 AFK_Weye.esp [Version 2.0.COBL] 56 ElsweyrAnequina.esp ++ ElsweyrAnequina - Races HGEC-Robert.esp 57 ElsweyrAnequina Vwalk.esp 58 Tales from Elsweyr Anequina.esp 59 Walkabout.esp 5A road+bridges.esp [Version 4.5.5] 5B xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5] 5C LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp 5D xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2] 5E xulTheHeath.esp 5F MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp 60 XulEntiusGorge.esp 61 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1] 62 LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp [Version 1.2] 63 Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp 64 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1] 65 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2] 66 xulChorrolHinterland Vwalk.esp 67 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4] 68 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2] 69 xulBravilBarrowfields Vwalk.esp 6A Tales Elsweyr Anq Bravil Barrowfields Patch.esp 6B xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3] 6C xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.3] 6D xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6] 6E xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3] 6F xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3] 70 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1] 71 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.2] 72 xulRollingHills_EV Vwalk.esp 73 MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.esp 74 xulPantherRiver.esp 75 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2] 76 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.0.2] 77 xulBrenaRiverRavine Vwalk.esp 78 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.5] 79 xulImperialIsle Vwalk.esp 7A xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.0.4] 7B xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1] 7C xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2] 7D xulAspenWood Vwalk.esp 7E xulSkingradOutskirts.esp 7F xulSkingradOutskirts Vwalk.esp 80 xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0] 81 NRB4+UL-II+LtPD Patch.esp [Version 3.0.1] 82 West Roads.esp 83 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0] ++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0] 84 DecoratorAssistant with OBSE v1.1.esp 85 Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 CT.esp 86 ImmersiveWait.esp 87 kuerteeInventoryIsABackpack.esp 88 Leviathan Soulgems.esp 89 P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00] 8A PersuasionOverhaul.esp 8B kuerteeGoldIsAnInventoryItem.esp ++ Enhanced Vegetation [100%].esp 8C Storms & Sound - AFK_Weye.esp 8D Storms & Sound - The Lost Spires.esp 8E Storms & Sound - Better Cities.esp 8F Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.1.1] 90 Quest Award Leveller.esp ++ Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp 91 Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp 92 RealisticFatigue.esp 93 RealisticHealth.esp 94 RealisticForceMedium.esp 95 RealisticMagicForceHigh.esp 96 RealSleepExtended.esp [Version 2.4.2] 97 ConduitMagic.esp 98 SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90] 99 SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.86] ++ SM_MMM.esp [Version 0.89] ++ SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.86] 9A SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.80] ++ SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.84] ++ SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.83] 9B MidasSpells.esp 9C StealthOverhaul.esp 9D ZumbsLockpickingMod - OBSE.esp 9E ZumbsLockpickingMod - Hide Difficulty Addon.esp 9F RenGuardOverhaul.esp A0 SM Hand Combat.esp [Version 1.0] ++ SM_DeadlyReflex.esp [Version 0.86] A1 RealisticLeveling.esp ++ Francesco's Slower skills x1.5.esp A2 Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp A3 Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp A4 Let There Be Darkness - Kvatch Rebuilt.esp A5 Let There Be Darkness - Lost Spires.esp A6 Let There Be Darkness - Elsweyr.esp A7 Let There Be Darkness - UL Colovian Highlands.esp A8 Let There Be Darkness - UL Lost Coast.esp A9 Let There Be Darkness - UL Brena.esp AA Let There Be Darkness - UL Blackwood Forest.esp ++ Item interchange - Placement.esp [Version 0.76] ++ Khajiit Fix.esp ** Better Redguard v2.esp AB Better Redguard v2 Vwalk.esp AC Ethereal - Eyes.esp AD 1em_Vilja.esp ++ 1em_Vilja MMM Fix.esp AE 1em_Vilja Vwalk.esp AF Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52] B0 bgMagicEV.esp [Version 1.7EV] ** bgMagicEV Vwalk.esp ++ bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp [Version 1.68EV] ++ bgMagicItemSigil.esp [Version 1.68EV] ++ bgMagicEVStartspells.esp [Version 1.68EV] B1 bgMagicBonus.esp [Version 1.7EV] ++ bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp [Version 1.68EV] B2 bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp [Version 1.68EV] B3 bgMagicAlchemy.esp [Version 1.57] B4 bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp [Version 1.68UV] ++ Cobl Races - Balanced.esp [Version 1.52] B5 Better Cities Full.esp B6 Better Cities Full Vwalk.esp B7 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp B8 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp B9 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp BA Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp BB Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp BC Better Imperial City.esp BD Better Imperial City Vwalk.esp BE Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp BF Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 2.1] C0 Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp C1 MM_NoMoreAnnoyingMessages.esp [Version 1.2] C2 Francesco's 7 days respawn time - 1-16 day lenght rescale.esp C3 bgMagicEVShader.esp [Version 1.7EV] ++ bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp [Version 1.68] C4 bgMagicLightningbolt.esp ++ Real Lava 1.3.esp C5 ScreenControls.esp C6 Argonians and Khajiit Lose Tails no More Script.esp C7 Argonians and Khajiit Lose Tails no More Script - CoBl.esp ++ Argonians and Khajiit Lose Tails no More.esp ++ Argonians and Khajiit Lose Tails no More - KD Circlets Loot Only patch.esp C8 MiniMap.esp C9 Real Hunger, Cobl.esp [Version 1.6.1] ** NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp ++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53] CA Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01] ** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 0.9.9.5] CB Bashed Patch, 0.esp Possibly-relevant texture packs I use include Facial Textures by Enayla, F-IN evOblivion skinset for EC/HGEC body and Luchaire's HGEC Body Seam Reducer. I manage all my mods with OBMM, sort with BOSS, then use Wrye Bash to merge whatever is tells me to. In the Tweak Actors section of the bashed patch I tick the box indicating compatibility for Better Redguards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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