Cheydinhal crashes

[Skoran]

Ive been playing a while now and the game runs ok.

Ive been in Cheydinhal before but now it always crashes the moment I enter.

 

I tried waiting, fast traveling from another locations, tried all 3 gates, ... the moment I enter the game loads, I hear the closing door sound, then I get a CTD.

 

I am currently omw to the gray fox so he can tell me about the boots of springheel jack.

 

Here is my load order:

 

Oblivion.esm

Jog_X_Mod.esm

All Natural Base.esm

Mart's Monster Mod.esm

Better Cities Resources.esm

TantrivayliaChimer.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp

TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp

TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

Better Cities .esp

Atmospheric Loading Screens - Random Quotes.esp

All Natural - Real Lights.esp

All Natural.esp

All Natural - SI.esp

Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp

Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp

AmbientTownSounds.esp

MIS Low Wind.esp

MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp

Quiet Feet Complete.esp

Storms & Sound.esp

Rainbows.esp

WindowLightingSystem.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion.esp

bnmDLTIC-1-6.esp

ChaseCameraMod.esp

personality_idles4_nopc.esp

P1DlookHereYou.esp

Harvest[Containers].esp

moDem's City Life.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp

1SB_TerryMalick_BallGownVariants.esp

AW_Wings.esp

CSR - Fine Iron.esp

CSR - Golden Saint.esp

EY_AoD.esp

mnp Nighteye Goggles.esp

Thieves Arsenal.esp

R18PN - Amy Armor Set.esp

R18PN - Lingeries.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

Mart's Monster Mod.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Moderate Increased.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp

Cats & Rats for MMM.esp

Diverse Imperial Armor v1.1.esp

Hentai Mania.esp

Tantrivaylia.esp

thievery.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCfrostcrag.esp

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Knights.esp

xuldarkforest.esp

xulStendarrValley.esp

xulTheHeath.esp

XulEntiusGorge.esp

xulFallenleafEverglade.esp

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

xulChorrolHinterland.esp

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

xulBravilBarrowfields.esp

xulLushWoodlands.esp

xulAncientYews.esp

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

xulCloudtopMountains.esp

xulArriusCreek.esp

xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

xulRollingHills_EV.esp

xulPantherRiver.esp

xulRiverEthe.esp

xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp

xulImperialIsle.esp

xulBlackwoodForest.esp

xulCheydinhalFalls.esp

xulAspenWood.esp

xulSkingradOutskirts.esp

xulSnowdale.esp

FrostcragReborn-Snowdale patch.esp

Castle_Seaview.esp

CastleSeaview+LostCoast Patch.esp

P1DkeyChain.esp

Enhanced Vegetation [125%].esp

talkwithyourhands2.esp

Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

RealisticForceMedium.esp

Advanced Mark & Recall.esp

300ft_crime_detection-7319.esp

Enhanced Grabbing.esp

CombatFPSOptimizer.esp

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

Duke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrows Alert The Target.esp

Oblivion XP.esp

77_Umpa_Animation.esp

zzEstrus.esp

Dark Dungeons - SI.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp

Moonshadow Elves - NoSc.esp

Better Cities Full.esp

BCBravilFULL-Barrowfields patch.esp

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp

BCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland fix.esp

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp

BCCheydinhalFULL-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp

BCSkingrad-SkingradOutskirts patch.esp

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp

Better Cities - Thievery.esp

Better Imperial City.esp

Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp

Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp

MRP - Autosaving.esp

MRP - Horse stabled outside gate.esp

MRP - Loading area.esp

MRP - Not enough charge.esp

MRP - Quickloading.esp

MRP - Quicksaving.esp

MRP - You find nothing of use.esp

MRP - You successfully harvest.esp

Get Wet v0.92.esp

Visually Realistic Deadly Lava.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Streamline 3.1.esp

Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp

DarkRoseSet.esp

1SB_RavenousEleganceOutfit.esp

HentaiMania2.esp

Specialanims.esp

Immersive Interiors.esp

[DavidBudreck]

I have experienced similar problems in Cheydenhal. At first, I could not Fast Travel or exit a building without a crash, but Could get in through the front gate. I then completed the Cheydenhal City quests, and am now able to enter, but is still very unstable.

 

I have a lot of mods like you, but except for MMM and unique landscapes, there are very few other overlaps.

 

The only other mod I can see that we have in common is Jog_X/Thievery.

 

This kind of leads me to believe that it is not a mod conflict, but that Cheydinhal is very demanding.

 

Try disabling Better Cities.

 

If that works, it would be interesing to see if finishing the two Cheydinhal Quests would enable you to visit With Better Cities.

[Skoran]

I just disabled BC and it still crashes ...

I just started a new game with a fresh charachter and it also crashes when I enter Cheydinhal. So it has nothing to do with the quest but with the city. It was with BC disabled

 

EDIT: I just totally uninstalled BC (before I only disabled cheydinhal) and the UL comp patches and now I can enter the city with my new char, ill try the other char (with the thieves guild quest)

EDIT2: my main charachter still crashes ... Now Im confused: is it cause of BC or because of the quest :s.

[DavidBudreck]

The mods we have in common are:

 

MMM

Unique Landscapes et. al.

Jog_X/Thievery

Streamline

Get Wet

77_Umpa_Animation.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

Thieves Arsenal.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCorrery.esp

 

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp & SI & for the two DLC's listed here

 

 

I have also closed the Oblivon Gate, rescued the son, and bought the house.

 

The Only other thing I could even venture as a guess is really grasping at straws, but try completing the Fines & Brush With Death quests by SetStage through the console.

 

 

I can now enter Cheydinhal, but as I said is very unstable. If I do much of anything first, then go there, the menus immediately start losing their texture, so that for instance, the Inventory screen is completely white all around the edges. Fortunately at that point I am able to save and reload. Then I am OK for a while...

[Skoran]

Well I just had another try with my main charachter through the main gate now and now it loaded ... Without BC it seems to crash randomly ...

Very, very weird :P

 

I just reinstalled BC, I can enter with my new charachter, but not with my old, wtf :D

I uninstalled BC and now my main character crashes again ...

[DavidBudreck]

My guess is that it has something to do with AI, like quests. I'm in the thieves' guild, but I was going to get the Bust, not meet the Gray Fox. I'm still nowhere near that point.

 

If you have any texture replacers, try deactivating them by moving or renaming your ArchiveInvalidation.txt file.

[Skoran]

Only thing in my archiveinvalidation is battlehorn castle. I tried to move it but I still crash.

But the crashes seem so random. I installed BC again, my new character crashed 2 times but suddenly was able to enter, my main charachter crashes every time.

[DavidBudreck]

Well, if what happened to you is anything like what happened to me, it will kind of clear up after whatever AI is causing the crash is satisfied.

 

You can try disabling mods one at a time. If it -IS- some conflict, this is the only real way to find it, but I am not 100% sure it is a mod conflict.

 

 

Otherwise, you can use the console command "MoveToQT" (Move to Quest Target) or "COC CheydinhalGanredhelsHouse" so that you can continue the game.

[Shadowfen]

Only thing in my archiveinvalidation is battlehorn castle. I tried to move it but I still crash.

But the crashes seem so random. I installed BC again, my new character crashed 2 times but suddenly was able to enter, my main charachter crashes every time.

 

Recommend that you remove HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp - it is not compatible with Shivering Isles.

[Skoran]

Only thing in my archiveinvalidation is battlehorn castle. I tried to move it but I still crash.

But the crashes seem so random. I installed BC again, my new character crashed 2 times but suddenly was able to enter, my main charachter crashes every time.

 

Recommend that you remove HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp - it is not compatible with Shivering Isles.

 

Ok, I will do that, but I am not sure thats the reason for my crashes.