Novem99 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 On 12/11/2014 at 2:35 AM, keithallenlaw said: If your going to use the latest ENB with the built in optimizer, go for at least 16 gigs of RAMand take advantage of the 10.5 gigs of allocation the creator used to future proof ENB. Where do you have this from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalVixen Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Two things that stand out: PSU & CPU confusement. 8 threads on i7 can be utilized by Skyrim. Especially if you mod it with SKSE and HDT, then you'll run HDT havoc over 8 threads. With tweaks you can force Skyrim out over more than four cores for vanilla game too, although you hardly need to. And you definitely do not need 800+ watts to run a single graphics card (especially not a 970 GTX). I have 750 watts and I run a i7-2600k OC'd to 4.4ghz, SLI setup with two OC'd GTX 670s 4GB, 16 GB OC'd DDR3 RAM, bunch of fans and three HDDs out of which two are SSDs. I'm not even getting close to pushing my PSU under heavy load. Of course, as mentioned before it depends on what PSU you buy. I'm of the philosophy that you shouldn't cheap out on the base parts of a PC and to those I count PSU & motherboard. Buy the high-quality stuff and you can exchange the rest for years to come to gradually improve your PC. For instance; Corsair HX power-supplies have 5 or if it's even 7 years of warranty. Plus the fact that they generally are capable of pushing 200+ more watts out than what they're stamped for. You can cheap out on most anything, but do yourself a favour and buy a quality PSU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayglo98 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Isnt HDT Havoc just for boobs physics ? Oh yes get an i7 so you have jiggly boobs !..Seriously... What are the tweaks that you speak of for making Skyrim use 4 cores ? If its the same old BS from the Oblivion days, that doesn't do anything for performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiftyTifty Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 On 12/11/2014 at 4:39 PM, dayglo98 said: Isnt HDT Havoc just for boobs physics ? Oh yes get an i7 so you have jiggly boobs !..Seriously... What are the tweaks that you speak of for making Skyrim use 4 cores ? If its the same old BS from the Oblivion days, that doesn't do anything for performance Going to reinforce this man's point. The ini tweaks do not work; having tested this out myself, I can readily testify to that fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalVixen Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) There are other things you can use HDT physics for. Weapons, capes etc. You'll make of it what you want. All I'm saying is that you CAN use 4 cores and hyper-threading - if you want to. http://i.imgur.com/IP7i0S7.jpg That's a screenshot after playing a couple of minutes in a not very demanding area. As you can see, the load is pretty spread out on the cores. Whether you get any performance gain from it depends on what mods you are using and what type of CPU you have. Of course there's a limit to how much of a difference it makes due to the game-engines limitations but saying you can't do that and this because you haven't found a way is just not true. Edited December 11, 2014 by DigitalVixen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArronDominion Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Honestly you don't necessarily need to go all out for a 900 series nVidia geForce, you can rely on a 700 series, (heck if you aren't planning on anything 4K a nVidia 580 GTX might be enough for Ultra settings). If you are planning on having this machine for some time and play games outside of Skyrim that will be demanding (such as Star Citizen, or any of the current AAA titles), you will want the 900 series card. My original rig used 3x nVidia geForce 580 GTX 1.5 GB in 3-way SLI. I noticed worse performance for Skyrim in most cases (and most games) at the time (and two of the cards failed back-to-back, making for a bad experience on a college free-time night and a waste of money). The only reason I would see for having multiple cards would be if you planned for a multiple monitor setup. One of my college friends decided to use 3 22 inch(think I got the size right) Dell monitors (1920x1080 if I remember them correctly) for Skyrim, which required quite a bit of tweaking, but ended up with a good Surround-screen experience. The i7 is probably a good future proof choice if you are utilizing your new machine for more than Skyrim, but an i5 is enough for current games and Skyrim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayglo98 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Well I don't know what I'm doing but I started the Windows resource monitor before playing and indeed my 4 cores were at around 70% while I was playing, looking at Riverwood from the stone bridge..Not that I did ANY ini tweaks related to multithreading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiftyTifty Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 On 12/11/2014 at 10:39 PM, Arron Dominion said: The i7 is probably a good future proof choice if you are utilizing your new machine for more than Skyrim, but an i5 is enough for current games and Skyrim. Future proofing doesn't exist. And an i7 becomes meaningless when all four cores are at full usage. Hyper threading is a relatively small hardware trick; to make operating systems see the processor as having twice as many threads. It's still a processor with four FPUs and four integer units. Unlike, say, AMD's Bulldozer/Piledriver/Steamroller/Excavator architecture, which has four shared FPUs and eight integer units; this functions as a true eight core, but there is a threading performance penalty of around 20% when using both cores in a module, rather than using one core from two different modules. Hell, if you must persist with the futility of future proofing, you would get an eight core Xeon; due to the PS4 and XBOXOne using eight core processors, and then overclock it as high as possible. Also, about the four core business. Skyrim uses DirectX 9, so whilst Skyrim does have actual support for four threads, the first thread is going to be overburdened by the sheer weight of Skyrim's draw calls and whatnot. If a multithreaded DX 11 or Mantle renderer was used, however... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amyr Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 On 12/11/2014 at 10:39 PM, Arron Dominion said: Honestly you don't necessarily need to go all out for a 900 series nVidia geForce, you can rely on a 700 series, (heck if you aren't planning on anything 4K a nVidia 580 GTX might be enough for Ultra settings). If you are planning on having this machine for some time and play games outside of Skyrim that will be demanding (such as Star Citizen, or any of the current AAA titles), you will want the 900 series card. That's only true for Vanilla Skyrim. And I don't remember last time I see someone playing unmodded Skyrim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayglo98 Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 watching skyrim unmodded burns my eyes. Thats why I glued the f12 key so I cant accidentally press it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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