All Natural Darker Nights conflict

[banjo2E]

One of my mods is overwriting All Natural's night brightness levels. Everything's pitch-black, which to me is not realistic, as humans do have some night vision ability. I'm at a total loss as to which one. Does anyone know if anything in my load order is known to modify night brightness settings other than All Natural?

 

 

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[Hickory]

First of all, you need to sort your load order with BOSS, then rebuild (check all options, as you have rogue masters) your Bashed Patch.

 

After ther, have you checked your 'All Natural.ini' settings? Also make sure that Screen Effects isn't giving you the problem -- check the orb thingy.

[banjo2E]

I've already done BOSS, Bashed Patch, and several All Natural INI tweaks to no avail. I'll double-check the ScreenEffects settings, but I checked that as well a while ago and its settings seemed to all be defaults (i.e. 0).

 

...Then again, I guess I did notice that everything got darker the last time I loaded a savegame outside once I got the corner message that ScreenEffects shaders became enabled...

 

Too bad I can't disable it; Bladesong has it as an absolute requirement -_-

 

Edit: Apparently the version of OBGE that ScreenEffects came with is bugged. I'm updating now, and will see if that fixes it.

 

Second edit: Okay, it is ScreenEffects. For some reason it seems to be setting everything to zero, and I'm unable to alter this.

 

More edits: At this point I think I'll have to disable ScreenEffects, and just play without Bladesong. I never really did much with that quest at any point anyway, and it has a tendency to force you to be a lesbian (srsly, wtf)

 

Even more edits: I think I've found what the actual problem was: My All Natural INI file was somehow still the old pre-fix pack version. I'm testing it out to see if it fixes things; if it does I might be able to use Bladesong after all ^^

[Hickory]

  On 9/5/2010 at 5:16 PM, banjo2E said:

I've already done BOSS, Bashed Patch, and several All Natural INI tweaks to no avail. I'll double-check the ScreenEffects settings, but I checked that as well a while ago and its settings seemed to all be defaults (i.e. 0).

 

...Then again, I guess I did notice that everything got darker the last time I loaded a savegame outside once I got the corner message that ScreenEffects shaders became enabled...

 

Too bad I can't disable it; Bladesong has it as an absolute requirement -_-

 

Edit: Apparently the version of OBGE that ScreenEffects came with is bugged. I'm updating now, and will see if that fixes it.

 

Second edit: Okay, it is ScreenEffects. For some reason it seems to be setting everything to zero, and I'm unable to alter this.

 

More edits: At this point I think I'll have to disable ScreenEffects, and just play without Bladesong. I never really did much with that quest at any point anyway, and it has a tendency to force you to be a lesbian (srsly, wtf).

 

You still need to manually move the following mods to the end of your load list, in the order given, then rebuild your Bashed Patch:

NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp

Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]

All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 0.9.9.5]

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

FormID Finder4.esp

Streamline 3.1.esp

 

You only need ScreenEffects with BladeSong until the main quest is finished, and then you can disable it.

 

BladeSong does not force you to be anything. If you play a romance quest, that has a female main character, it is your choice to be either male or female.

[banjo2E]

Grabbing the new All Natural INI fixed everything. Topic can be closed now.

 

Thanks for the advice on moving everything after the road record ESP to the bottom, though, Hickory. That might clear up a few minor conflicts I've been having for a while now.

[Hickory]

  On 9/5/2010 at 8:14 PM, banjo2E said:

Grabbing the new All Natural INI fixed everything. Topic can be closed now.

 

Thanks for the advice on moving everything after the road record ESP to the bottom, though, Hickory. That might clear up a few minor conflicts I've been having for a while now.

 

I'm glad it's all sorted for you. Good luck.

[Zaianya]

I'm having the opposite issue--I can't get my Darker Nights esp to work at all. Someone mentioned that, rather than use an ESP, I should darken the nights by tweaking my .ini file, but I'm afraid I don't know what I'm doing.

 

(Obviously I have All Natural, Enhanced Weather, and the Darker Nights optional ESP).

[Hickory]

  On 9/7/2010 at 7:46 PM, Zaianya said:

I'm having the opposite issue--I can't get my Darker Nights esp to work at all. Someone mentioned that, rather than use an ESP, I should darken the nights by tweaking my .ini file, but I'm afraid I don't know what I'm doing.

 

(Obviously I have All Natural, Enhanced Weather, and the Darker Nights optional ESP).

 

With All Natural, the darker nights has to be enabled via the All Natural.ini -- make sure you have the fix pack and use the ini from that., Edit the ini underneath where it says: "Night Luminance : Configurable night light levels ". Suggested values are underneath.

[banjo2E]

Actually, All Natural and Enhanced Weather are incompatible, as of the latest AN version. Just download the latest All Natural; all three of the mods you mentioned are part of it, and the settings are editable via the All Natural INI. Make sure you get the fix pack as well.