zechshero Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 I reinstalled oblivion on Friday and installed my favorite mods along with some new ones, and I could not get oblivion to start. I ran the program and it came up like it was going to start and then it CTD's, with no error message or warning or anything, within 2-5 seconds of it opening. Before any of the intros and what not even played. Then I do some tweaking and what not withWrye until it tells me everything is perfect. So after all that work I try it again and it STARTS UP!!!! So I start a new game and I watch the opening video with Uriel just because I haven't played in a long time and I wanted the full effect since I spent a little over a day fixing all the mods and what not. The video ends and I'm about to start the game...and I CTD again with no error message or warning or anything. Then I get BOSS and use that and it gives me an all new loard order, and now the game wont start at all. I'm back to the original error I had with the instant CTD Here's my load order, let me know if anything looks blatantly wrong: Oblivion.esmJog_X_Mod.esmCobl Main.esmQarls_Harvest.esmMart's Monster Mod.esmEnhanced Daedric Invasion.esmOpen Cities Resources.esmCM Partners.esmHorseCombatMaster.esmUnofficial Oblivion Patch.espUOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.espOblivion Citadel Door Fix.espDLCShiveringIsles.espUnofficial Shivering Isles Patch.espNaturalWeather.espNaturalHabitat.espNaturalWater.espDistant Chapel Bells.espRainbows.espCities Alive At Night.espAliveWaters.espAliveWaters - Koi Addon.espAliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.espBook Jackets Oblivion.espaaaBorsBedrolls.espkuerteeSittableRocks.espLostTelvanniCodex.espMM_TextLocks.espOblivion Cats v0.22b.espQ - More and Moldy Ingredients v1.1.espQarls_Harvest.espReznod_Mannequin.espTamriel VWD v0.5.espLiving Economy.espLiving Economy - SI.espLiving Economy - Items.espCutthroat Merchants.espCrowded Roads.espImmersive Travelers.espDLCHorseArmor.espDLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.espCompatibility Patch - DLCHorseArmor.espDLCOrrery.espDLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.espDLCVileLair.espDLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.espDLCMehrunesRazor.espDLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.espDLCSpellTomes.espXSPipeMod.espNV Imperial Guard Horse Armour.espDLCThievesDen.espDLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.espDLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.espCobl Glue.espCobl Si.espOscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.espOOO-Armor_Perks_WearRate_Repair.espOOO-BirthSigns.espOOO-Combat_Skills_Perks_Marksmanship.espOOO-Deadly_Combat.espOOO-DLT_Immersion.espOOO-Magic_Effects+Enchantments.espOOO-Magic_Effects+Spells.espOOO-Magic_Game_Settings.espOOO-Potions.espMart's Monster Mod for OOO.espMart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.espMart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.espMart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.espMart's Monster Mod - Durability & Damage.espMart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.espMart's Monster Mod - City Defences.espCreatures Alive v1.3.espkuerteeWanderingEncounters.espCyrodiil Transportation Network WZ OC.espAyleidArrows.esphackdirtabyss.espJADImperialApartments01Temple.espJADImperialApartments02Temple.espJADImperialApartments03Temple.espJagnot- Imperial City Library V1.3.espKragenir's Death Quest.espKDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp300_White Stallion 4.espKragenirs_WhiteStallion_Compat.espCorpse_Kvatch.espLetThePeopleDrink.espKragenirsDeathQuest-LetThePeopleDrink patch.espNPCs Alive - Faregyll Inn.espRegion Revive - Lake Rumare.espthievery.espTravelers Inns.espza_bankmod.espVisually Enhanced Arena.espDLCBattlehornCastle.espDLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.espLynges_Thieves_Highway-10256.espDLCFrostcrag.espDLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.espKnights.espKnights - Unofficial Patch.espSM Plugin Refurbish(Merged).espThe Lost Spires.espEnhanced Daedric Invasion.espJADDockTunnel.espOpen Cities New Sheoth.espOpen Cities Outer Districts.espOpen Cities Full.espNaturalVegetation.espHarvest [Flora].espHarvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.espCliff_BetterLetters.espDrop Lit Torches Weight.espDS Less Predictable Respawn.espDungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 CT.espExterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 CT.espGP_Lockpicks.espLeviathan Soulgems.espP1DcandlesForKleptos.espP1DkeyChain.espSalmo the Baker, Cobl.espAlternative Start by Robert Evrae.espRealisticHealth.espNo psychic guards harder fix.espDenock Arrows.espArchery Rebalance.espmighty_bows_full.espDeadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.espDeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.espkuerteeBattleFatigueAndInjuries.espSD Skill Diary.espNaturalMagicSkillsInceases_v2.0.espimmersive_caves_auto.espCM Partners.espCobl Races.espGet Wet.espVisually Enchanted SoulTrap 1.espCobl Silent Equip Misc.espBashed Patch, 0.espCreeper.espStreamline 3.1.esp[GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.espmighty_bows_sneak_dmg_bonus_alt.espNPCs Alive - Bandits.espNPCs Alive - Beggers.espNPCs Alive - Goblins.espNPCs Alive - Orges.espNPCs Alive - Imperial Legion Foresters.espNPCs Alive - Imps.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidBudreck Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 I am not a load order expert at all, but I do know that Wrye Bash has a Mod Checker at the bottom of the screen, and this has been very helpful to me. OBMM also has a conflict detector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zechshero Posted September 6, 2010 Author Share Posted September 6, 2010 Wrye Bash says that everything is fine. I ran OBMM's detector and it said some things conflict, Ill see if I can fix that. One thing that confused me was it said Qarl's Harvest conflicts with the horse armor patches, official and otherwise. I thought that was weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bben46 Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Did you remember to install the latest patch? and OBSE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmeniusLOD Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Did you rebuild the Bashed Patch after running BOSS? The master list of the Bashed Patch will be out of order after modifying your load order. Make sure you have all the options for plugins that have Bash tags are checked when you build your Bashed Patch. If you cleaned some plugins, replace them with the originals because obsessive cleaning can cause these kinds of crashes. After rebuilding the Bashed Patch you need to use TES4Gecko to remove Visually Enchanted SoulTrap 1.esp from the master list and then deactivate it in the load list (that's why it appears with a red line in Wrye Bash). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zechshero Posted September 7, 2010 Author Share Posted September 7, 2010 I went through all my downloads again(mods, plugins, OBSE, graphics extender, the lot of it) and made sure everything was up to date and even reinstalled some things just in case.I removed enchanted soultrap from bash path's master list, but it still says it can't be merged or imported because "new record in block EFSH" Not sure where to go from there. I redid the bash patch, Since Im brand new to Bash, I clicked select all while building the patch because I don't know any better. I'm starting to wonder if that's what's causing the crash. I cleaned up the mods I was using and now the game starts but still crashes after the uriel video and before character creation starts. Wrye still says no conflicts detected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmeniusLOD Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Bashed Patch shouldn't be causing crashes simply by enabling all imports when rebuilding. Make sure that any plugin with the "Deactivate" and/or "NoMerge" tags are deactivated in your load order. I would recommend upgrading Living Economy to Enhanced Economy since it has everything LE does, plus more features and customization. It is also still being constantly updated (it was last updated 9/3/2010). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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