Fracta Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 I installed a few new mods and recently noticed my textures Beautiful Textures (qtp3) where missing in places. And i can't figure out why. I have tried reinstalling the qtp3 omods and manually replacing textures. I don't think even vanilla textures were this bad. You can clearly see qtp3 on the left and a really pixelated texture (church steps in skingrad) on the right. This also happens with doors and a few other things. Any ideas? I have 50+ mods installed but nothing except maybe unofficial oblivion patch that changes textures but utp was the latest thing to install and all the textures match. I am also using archiveinvalidation invalidated. Because archiveinvalidation in obmm didnt fix the bad textures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hickory Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 If you have installed any mod/s that alter the vanilla textures, they will overwrite QTP, as will the UOP. Install UOP first, then your mods, and QTP last, since it doesn't need an esp. When textures have been changed/added/removed, you should also get into the habit of running TES4LODGen afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fracta Posted September 8, 2010 Author Share Posted September 8, 2010 still getting the bad textures. its like oblivion has been set to run on really low but some high res textures have slipped thru. I just spotted a painting in anvil that is really really low res, horribly pixelated, and i know I haven't installed anything that alters the painting textures, so it must be something else. i checked settings in streamline but couldn't see anything and texture size is still set to large in the graphics settings. i am still quite a n00b when it comes to wrye bash and that is the only thing i can think of that may have changed things. iv been doing the rebuild patch thing after every new mod and i just left it at whatever default settings because i really have little to no idea what im doing. this is extremely frustrating. it makes no sense to me. arg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hickory Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 There is no point using a Bashed Patch if you are going to leave everything at default. You have to go through each option to check if any of your mods are listed. If you have a mod listed, check it off. But before you do that, you should run BOSS to order your load list -- a bashed patch can also be ineffective if the load list is wrong. I have seen people with a bashed patch almost at the beginning of their list, and that won't do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fracta Posted September 8, 2010 Author Share Posted September 8, 2010 i use boss, but i didn't know i had to check off each mod that was listed. maybe that will stop some of my ctds. now that i am looking out for it, i have noticed a lot of things are now pixelated but they don't seem to be related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hickory Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 I really don't know what's going on there. I noticed in your first post you mentioned that you had been replacing textures by hand. Was this a wise choice given your problem? Would it not be easier to start over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fracta Posted September 8, 2010 Author Share Posted September 8, 2010 I only replaced textures for the arena because there its really bad but it made no difference. i was just replacing the files with exact copies anyway. i don't know my way around the data folder like a pro, but from what i can figure out, all of qtp3 is where its supposed to be. is there a setting somewhere that does this kind of thing? would it have anything to do with hdr? i had to edit the oblivion ini manually to get it to turn on. whenever i turned it on in the menu, (yes i turned off aa as well) i would restart like it tells me and bloom would be back on. so i edited the ini and took bloom off and set hdr to on. but my problem predates that anyway. i have a LOT of mods, and i do my best to make sure nothing conflicts, or potentially conflicts, before i install anything. it would be hell doing it again. it would take me a whole day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fracta Posted September 8, 2010 Author Share Posted September 8, 2010 if some resources are in the data folder, how can i be sure they are being used? remember i am using archive invalidation invalidated. im thinking maybe there is a setting for particle effects and a few world textures that is set to use low res versions. its the only thing i can think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hickory Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Please delete your oblivion.ini and run the game to get the default settings back do not edit it, yet. Then post a list of your mods here, via Wrye Bash (inside the [ Spoiler ][ Code ] tags). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fracta Posted September 10, 2010 Author Share Posted September 10, 2010 I have already tried deleting the ini and replacing it with an older one. the game crashes on startup. Didn't think of deleting and letting oblivion make a new one. Just tried that and game crashes when I try to load or start a new game.I really don't want to have to do a reinstall. I'm sure its just a setting gone wrong somewhere. 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