cctheesfan Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Hello,I have a PCI interface, not PCI-e. Right now im using Nvidia GF 5200. As you know it looks like a cartoon.! lol. I can't use or see any of the cool effects of the game. My question is if there is a card out there that will run in my machine and give ultra high graphics? Im told it either too expensive i should just get another computer or there isnt any. I could use some advice. I'd love to play the game with more realistic graphics. Thanks I got this info from another topic... The PCI-E x1 is the replacement for the old style PCI slot. It's not for video cards. It sounds like you only have a PCI slot? I believe that 6200 is the best PCI card available so you're stuck with that unless you get a new computer. I've read posts in the Official Forums from people who say they're running Oblivion on PCI video cards. I think you need to start at the Very Low settings and work from there. There are lots of tweaks to improve performance. Check out the hardware topics here and at the Official Forums. You need to back off on the settings until you find a point where the crashing stops or you feel it's manageable. Then start tweaking. Everyone has to tweak Oblivion no matter what hardware they have. smile.gif I guess now my question is...with a 5200 card how much tweekin can i do. I mean i would love to see the water and at least a distant view. Do i really have to buy another computer just to see them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switch Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Answer: probably. PCI is an extremely outdated input system for video cards; I sincerely doubt even with tweaking that you'll get much better graphics. LOD possibly, but your card simply wouldn't have the ability to render advanced shaders or the real water. It's just not a part of the hardware. AGP 4x is more advanced than PCI I think, so you don't need to jump straight to PCI-E. AGP 8x has been around for a good 5+ years now, and though it's starting to be phased out in favour of PCI-E, NVIDIA still offers support for it. It depends how much money you'd be willing to spend, really. It wouldn't be a lot to go up to an AGP 8x PC and get a simple/mid AGP 8x card. Then you might be able to run the game on mid graphics with a little tweaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctheesfan Posted July 24, 2006 Author Share Posted July 24, 2006 Answer: probably. PCI is an extremely outdated input system for video cards; I sincerely doubt even with tweaking that you'll get much better graphics. LOD possibly, but your card simply wouldn't have the ability to render advanced shaders or the real water. It's just not a part of the hardware. AGP 4x is more advanced than PCI I think, so you don't need to jump straight to PCI-E. AGP 8x has been around for a good 5+ years now, and though it's starting to be phased out in favour of PCI-E, NVIDIA still offers support for it. It depends how much money you'd be willing to spend, really. It wouldn't be a lot to go up to an AGP 8x PC and get a simple/mid AGP 8x card. Then you might be able to run the game on mid graphics with a little tweaking. Thank you so much for your input and advice. Now i wish i would have waited until i got a better computer. I think that bethesda should let people know that. My computer didnt have the dvd drive or the memory so i upgraded ($250) just to play the game and now im so disappointed. I dunno, it says on the box it will accept the card i have but they should tell you that you will play at a lower graphic. That way people can decide if they want the game or not. If i would have known I wouldnt have bought oblivion and saved my self some money. Im very disappointed. I bought the collector's edition of oblivion I wonder if i could trade it for the Morrowind/Tribunal/Blood series where they have all three games. Will my card play those games with high graphics? I look at the oblivion screenshots and just feel sick. I wish i would have known before i bought this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marxist ßastard Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 What processor do you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctheesfan Posted July 24, 2006 Author Share Posted July 24, 2006 What processor do you have? I have a Dell Dimension 3000 (cheapest and outdated, why do they even sell it!) and it has a intel pentium 4. Thats is no bells or whistles added to it. Whatta rip off, lol. I dont even want to say what was paid for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marxist ßastard Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 A Dell? Sorry, can't help you with that. See here. You might be able to salvage the floppy drive, if you can extract its drivers from the Dell rescue CD. Other than that, I wouldn't hold out much hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctheesfan Posted July 24, 2006 Author Share Posted July 24, 2006 A Dell? Sorry, can't help you with that. See here. You might be able to salvage the floppy drive, if you can extract its drivers from the Dell rescue CD. Other than that, I wouldn't hold out much hope. LOL, i read the link, yep the floppy is all i got i guess, lol. p.s. i wanna cry! :( There is always hope tho. I can get another computer, lol, i really need one! o_O Thanx for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOPSTER Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 PCI is for sound cards only these days ! The Oblivion game was designed to be played on the latest cutting edge technology. My advice would be to buy a totally new computer and to not bother upgrading parts. Use this link as a comparison chart when buying a new graphics card or speccing a new computer. http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2746&p=4 They also do a cpu comparison table aswell if you look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logan1234567890 Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 you are all lucky.at least you can update your video. I have an HP slimline and the graphics are integrated, so not only am I unable to upgrade, the graphics share with the system RAM!curse my s3710n!!!!!!!! :excl: :excl: :excl: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handeman Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 I ended up buying a new PC to play Oblivion. I ordered it part by part online and believe I got a great deal for what I bought. Everything went together without a problem. I'm not sure about Dell's, but I know Gateway has a lot of propitary hardware in them. I tried to use an IBM hard drive out of one of their machines and couldn't because it only works in Gateway machines with the Gateway BIOS. Personally, I would stay as far away from the Dell and Gateway boxes as I can if you want to do any gaming on them or expect to be able to upgrade them in the future. The machine I bought, I made sure I got an AMD 64 chip, PCI-e mobo with PCI-e vid card. I went with an SLI mobo even though I only got one vid card, but I can put a second in if I want. I also got an "SLI ready" 600 watt power supply. I'm not sure how important the SLI ready part is, but it make assembly easier. I do know you have to watch out how big of power supply you have. I saw a review on a NIVIDA 6800 vid card and at top load, it can draw over 200 watts all by itself. A friend was upgrading and was told by his vendor that he couldn't get a NIVIDA based vid card higher then 6200 with his 400 watt PS. I have another friend who's PC is down right now because the power supply is bad. He has a Dell with a 250 watt PS and had installed a NIVIDA 6200 series vid card. It looks like the PS couldn't handle the load. IMHO, if you are upgrading to any type of newer vid card, make sure you have at least a 500 watt PS. It may seem like a minor thing, but if the power supply can't handle the load, the voltage levels can drop, and when that happens, the current levels usually go up. If that happens, all kinds of BAD things can happen to the PS, mobo, CPU, and other expensive parts in your box. Just my 2 cents worth. Handeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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