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So, I removed BOSS entirely, and used the Installer to install it to the default location of Common\Boss in my Steamapps folder.

The Load Order updated from:

 

 

  • Oblivion.esm=1
  • Cobl Main.esm=1
  • Windfall.esm=1
  • CM Partners.esm=1
  • Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm=1
  • Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp=1
  • DLCShiveringIsles.esp=1
  • Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp=1
  • Cobl Si.esp=1
  • Moriarcis.esp=1
  • GlenvarCastle.esp=1
  • LinchalNecromancerHome.esp=1
  • LinchalNecromancerHome - Free.esp=0
  • TARDIS by Eolhin.esp=1
  • Blackmarket.esp=1
  • Thieves Arsenal.esp=1
  • Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp=1
  • Imperial Furniture Renovated.esp=1
  • Blades Ceremonial Armour.esp=1
  • Unlimited Wear.esp=1
  • P1DkeyChain.esp=1
  • Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp=1
  • bgIntegrationIntegratedEV.esp=1
  • Cobl Glue.esp=1
  • Tamriel.esp=1
  • Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp=0
  • Cobl Tweaks.esp=0
  • Cobl Races.esp=0
  • Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp=0
  • DLCHorseArmor.esp=1
  • DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
  • DLCMehrunesRazor.esp=1
  • DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
  • DLCThievesDen.esp=1
  • DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
  • DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp=1
  • DLCVileLair.esp=1
  • DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
  • DLCBattlehornCastle.esp=1
  • DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
  • BattlehornCastleEnhanced.esp=1
  • DLCFrostcrag.esp=1
  • DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
  • DLCFrostcragReborn.esp=1
  • DLCSpellTomes.esp=1
  • DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
  • DLCOrrery.esp=1
  • DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
  • Knights.esp=1
  • Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
  • Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp=1
  • Enhanced Grabbing.esp=1
  • goblin_war_party.esp=0
  • Summon Oblivion Gate v08c.esp=0
  • Summon Oblivion Gate v08d.esp=1
  • C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp=1
  • The Ayleid Steps.esp=1
  • Servant of the Dawn.esp=1
  • The Lost Spires.esp=1
  • Peruggia's Passage.esp=1
  • TOTF.esp=1
  • Windfall.esp=1
  • Guards.esp=1
  • Malevolent.esp=1
  • HeartOftheDead.esp=1
  • Battle4Morrowind.esp=1
  • Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp=1
  • DHs Faster Skills X5.esp=1
  • LevelerCheat.esp=1
  • Barter Gold Mod-9287.esp=1
  • No psychic guards v1.2.esp=1
  • No psychic guards harder v1.2.esp=0
  • Cities Alive At Night.esp=1
  • Guild Map Markers.esp=1
  • LoadingScreens.esp=1
  • LoadingScreensSI.esp=0
  • Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp=1
  • LoadingScreensAddOn.esp=1
  • UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp=1
  • Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1
  • UOPS Additional Changes.esp=0
  • USIPS Additional Changes.esp=0

 




to the new and (improved?) load order:


GameMode=Oblivion

  • Oblivion.esm=1
  • Windfall.esm=1
  • Cobl Main.esm=1
  • Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm=1
  • CM Partners.esm=1
  • Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp=1
  • UOPS Additional Changes.esp=0
  • UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp=1
  • Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp=1
  • DLCShiveringIsles.esp=1
  • Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp=1
  • USIPS Additional Changes.esp=0
  • Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp=0
  • LoadingScreens.esp=1
  • LoadingScreensAddOn.esp=1
  • LoadingScreensSI.esp=0
  • Cities Alive At Night.esp=1
  • Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp=1
  • Blackmarket.esp=1
  • C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp=1
  • Guild Map Markers.esp=1
  • DLCHorseArmor.esp=1
  • DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
  • DLCOrrery.esp=1
  • DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
  • DLCVileLair.esp=1
  • DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
  • DLCMehrunesRazor.esp=1
  • DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
  • DLCSpellTomes.esp=1
  • DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
  • Blades Ceremonial Armour.esp=1
  • Unlimited Wear.esp=1
  • Thieves Arsenal.esp=1
  • LevelerCheat.esp=1
  • DLCThievesDen.esp=1
  • DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
  • DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp=1
  • Cobl Glue.esp=1
  • Cobl Si.esp=1
  • Cobl Tweaks.esp=0
  • Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp=1
  • Imperial Furniture Renovated.esp=1
  • Battle4Morrowind.esp=1
  • Guards.esp=1
  • GlenvarCastle.esp=1
  • Malevolent.esp=1
  • Peruggia's Passage.esp=1
  • Servant of the Dawn.esp=1
  • The Ayleid Steps.esp=1
  • Windfall.esp=1
  • DLCBattlehornCastle.esp=1
  • DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
  • BattlehornCastleEnhanced.esp=1
  • DLCFrostcrag.esp=1
  • DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
  • DLCFrostcragReborn.esp=1
  • Knights.esp=1
  • Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp=1
  • TOTF.esp=1
  • The Lost Spires.esp=1
  • Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp=1
  • Tamriel.esp=1
  • HeartOftheDead.esp=1
  • Moriarcis.esp=1
  • Barter Gold Mod-9287.esp=1
  • goblin_war_party.esp=0
  • P1DkeyChain.esp=1
  • Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp=1
  • No psychic guards v1.2.esp=1
  • No psychic guards harder v1.2.esp=0
  • Enhanced Grabbing.esp=1
  • DHs Faster Skills X5.esp=1
  • Cobl Races.esp=0
  • bgIntegrationIntegratedEV.esp=1
  • Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp=0
  • Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1
  • LinchalNecromancerHome.esp=1
  • LinchalNecromancerHome - Free.esp=0
  • TARDIS by Eolhin.esp=1
  • Summon Oblivion Gate v08c.esp=0
  • Summon Oblivion Gate v08d.esp=1

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OK so the load order looks better to my unskilled eye. Is there a reason you keep the second ESP of a pair that you only want to use one of (e.g. you still have Summon Oblivion Gate v08c.esp when you are using Summon Oblivion Gate v08d.esp ... don't use it myself but seems pretty obvious you only need one of the two) ? There are some that may be needed for another ESP (e.g. possibly why you'd still need COBL Races.esp even though it's disabled) but in my opinion the cleaner you can keep your Data folder the better.

 

But all that aside, has the new load order changed your original problem?

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Yeah, I went ahead and deleted those ESPs.

To my knowledge, there may still be lag a bit, but I've not gotten to play it extensively as I had work yesterday and today from 7 am to 4 pm. i did play it recently though and it looks somewhat improved. I may still remove that key ring mod just in case, and work with it off and on. Part of my problem with BOSS is that I used the archive instead of hte installer, and slowly migrated its files the first time into the proper folder directory, as at first I jut moved it itno the Oblivion folder, then moved it to common, and then removed it entirely, then used the Installer to Common and had it installed right htat time. So thats' part of why BOSS wouldn't sort at all. :3

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  • 2 weeks later...

I would like to report that once I reinstall Oblivion, I may be able to label this thread as resolved. Last week my hard drive started failing, requiring me to buy a new one. I have bought a Solid State Drive with twice the space, mb cache, and speed, and I now have my old operating system and a second one installed. I've upgraded to a 2 terabyte hard drive this time. After I reinstall Oblivion+mods, if I find the game runs better than ever, then I will know my hard drive's failing was causing it to freeze up the whole operating system due to its inability to read the hard drive effectively. That would explain a lot. My hard drive was a few years old, after all.

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